RE: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation

2006-03-29 Thread Paul Hendry
Is the switch likely to be the bottle neck in your network? Surely you want QoS enabled routers where bandwidth isn't plentiful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: 29 March 2006 03:50 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I think you are missing the point here. We're talking about a mechanism to bring broadband to the entire country! Not just a small expansion for you. Also, most rural telco's will die if they loose these funds. Sure they're milking the system but they'll still fail without it. Like it or

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I'm not quite sure how to answer this one in this context. Just went by snippets I'd heard over the years on that one. I'll give you a couple of specific local examples though. Years ago I looked into what it would take to sell access to the school. erate is set up so that one company

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [Board] Television Whitespaces Position Paper - Version 2

2006-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Believe me, I'm all in favor of more efficient radio systems. Anything like those slow, use up the whole band, FHSS radios really needs to go away j/k hehehehe Anyhow Brad, what's wrong with BOTH? More spectrum AND more efficient radios. I think the sad truth of the matter is that

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [Board] Television Whitespaces Position Paper - Version 2

2006-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Whoa there Haas! I NEVER said that wifi would be a good thing at 3650. I agree with you that YOU guys should give us much more efficient radios when/if we get that band opened up. However, I DO like the contention based mechanism. And most wisps do when they understand what it means

RE: [WISPA] RE: Solectek Skyway 7000 -- Follow Up

2006-03-29 Thread G.Villarini
I need to chime in. it seems Airaya is using common AP PCBs with their own firmware, but I doubt that Firmware truly breaks 11a protocol. I have yet to see a regular 11a or 11b PCB that has custom firmware that breaks the 11a PHY MAC. I do have seem custom PCB like the Trango, WaveIP and

[WISPA] Re: [isp-wireless] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Brett Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Cc: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [isp-wireless] USF fund reform Some comments: WISPA is a the WISP industry's only industry owned and

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
Years ago I looked into what it would take to sell access to the school. erate is set up so that one company provides all telecom needs to the school. Voice, data etc. The only companies that can do that are the ilec or a clec. This is not true in Illinois. We have what is called a SPIN

Re: [WISPA] Re: [isp-wireless] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
The unfortunate dialog below is a perfect demonstration of why Matt was correct in saying this document should have never been circulated outside of WISPA until it was in its final form. What led to the Senate Commerce Committee position paper idea? Who is asking for this paper? What are the

Re: [WISPA] Re: [isp-wireless] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
I assumed this previous post was on an internal WISPA list server and was never meant to be publicly disseminated. I apologize to Marlon for making this private internal debate a public issue. I am not looking for any public discussion of these internal WISPA discussions. This topic needs to

Re: [WISPA] What list is public and which is private???

2006-03-29 Thread Tim Kerns
John, I have this problem all the time trying to figure which is the general and which is the members only we need to change one so it is more apparent which we are replying to. My thoughts, Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
Look at Cisco Catalyst 500 series or HP Procurve series. John -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation I need a recommendation for a 12 port switch that

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
In some rural areas, it can be tough to do it in 1 to 5 years. What if you need to provide service to the 2 houses that are 15 miles from your current tower and there is 0 potential for growth? This would allow you to charge enough for long enough that you don't have to lose money. How about

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
Are you willing to put up a tower to serve 2 customers? Only if you think you can get your money back. John -Original Message- From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 01:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform I agree, I

Re: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation

2006-03-29 Thread John J. Thomas
Generally, you want QOS classifying as close the edges as you can get it. Then you want your switches to honor the TOS/COS tags, then you want your edge router to police/queue/fragment to your upstream. John -Original Message- From: Rick Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] USF fund reform

2006-03-29 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Generally speaking no. However, if the 2 customers are commercial customers paying a few hundred or a few thousand dollars per month, then yes, if the numbers work out to our benefit. Cost is what makes or breaks a deal so everything has to be analyzed properly. In most cases, a $400 telephone