[WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
anybody know of a manufacturer currently SELLING WORKING wimax hardware? -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://wireless-internet-coverage.blogspot.com http://evdo-coverage.com http://wimax-access.blogspot.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007

RE: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Patrick Leary
Lots of people. Some where's the WiMAX certified logo, some does not yet, though it is a formality. Our BreezeMAX has been working in commercial environments for two years. But which WiMAX are you talking about? There are lots of versions and the one version that no one has...and no one should be

Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Patrick Leary wrote: But which WiMAX are you talking about? There are lots of versions and the one version that no one has...and no one should be clamoring for just yet...is unlicensed WiMAX. I am certainly looking for WiMAX features such as spectral efficiency in 5 Ghz unlicensed gear

Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Patrick, You're in the family... so where can i find a product / pricelist, 2. is it simple enough for the end user to install? 3. range and fall-off curve? 4. legal to use in a usa b england c canada? On 5/5/06, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Leary wrote: But which WiMAX are

RE: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Patrick Leary
Fair enough, and that's a different matter. I cannot speak for other brands, but BreezeACCESS VL is about to get even more efficient, and dramatically so in terms of packets per second and that is really where the rubber hits the road. It looks like it may achieve as much as 50k pps. On top of

Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
I am sure a number of vendors have exciting things coming at some point in the future. In the meantime, I am buying product now. So, from a practical standpoint, does your future product have any impact on current deployment decisions? For example, if we bought product today that was software

RE: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Patrick Leary
It is firmware Matt, so it is being applied to current hardware. Current multipoint hardware with current firmware is already doing over 30Mbps NET per sector or 15Mbps in the 10MHz channel version. So the data already rocks and the voice is pretty good. When 4.0 is applied, data will still rock

Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Aperto packetwave is your best bet then, contact me off list for details. - Jeff On 5/5/06 8:10 AM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Leary wrote: But which WiMAX are you talking about? There are lots of versions and the one version that no one has...and no one should be

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
It is? IIRC, the tariff price of 1.5 meg DSL from BellSouth is $23.95. -Matt Charles Wu wrote: But what about oversubscription? Transit costs aside, the cost of last-mile transport of even 1 Mbps of data pipe is still far more than $20-30 / month What happens when users actually start *using*

RE: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Charles Wu
You can do a 5 MHz channel size on an Atheros chip (Off the top of my head, Alvarion Airaya have implemented it so far) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Charles Wu
But that's just the last mile local loop -- what about the ATM DS-3 circuit coming back (and so forth) Then there's servicing costs / etc Keep in mind -- Bell copper has been amortized for quite a long time now -- and has been installed at almost a 100% penetration rate -- if you're building your

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Sounds like legislators or reading maketing advertisements instead of acceptable use policies and fine print of broadband contracts. What makes you come to that conclusion? Well... you can't make Net Neutrality Laws without considering how ISPs would be capable of technically

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Charles Wu wrote: But that's just the last mile local loop -- what about the ATM DS-3 circuit coming back (and so forth) Then there's servicing costs / etc I was simply responding to your statement regarding just the last mile transport. If you want to include other considerations in the

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: The difference here is that you currently appear to offer adequate QOS on your network design to offer a better Quality service. Many WISPs do NOT. Because they went after a different market that did not require it. And many of them will likely not beable to upgrade their

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Peter R.
Charles, Many do indeed :) - Peter Charles Wu wrote: But that's just the last mile local loop -- what about the ATM DS-3 circuit coming back (and so forth) Then there's servicing costs / etc Keep in mind -- Bell copper has been amortized for quite a long time now -- and has been installed

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Peter R.
What tariff rate? DSL is unregulated and de-tariffed. It is also subsidized by voice services, since it uses the same copper pair. Billing is miniscule (less than $1) because you already get a bill. Their IP and ATM combined cost is less than $2 per subscriber. The real overhead is tech support

RE: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Charles Wu
I was simply responding to your statement regarding just the last mile transport. If you want to include other considerations in the discussion then I don't understand your earlier email. When considering net neutrality and its implications (e.g., allowing the TV company to stream video over

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Peter R.
According to Eric Lee, most of the 500+ members of Congress don't understand any of this stuff, but have to write a bill that does. Hence, do you really think that Congress or the FCC takes in to account the difference between fiber and wireless? How about the cable system and the PSTN? How

Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality)

2006-05-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Charles Wu wrote: When considering net neutrality and its implications (e.g., allowing the TV company to stream video over your network) -- I'm am trying to point out that it's not simply a matter of bandwidth from the tower to the customer, but also the tower backbone all the way to your NOC

[WISPA] wiccp or frottle?

2006-05-05 Thread Michel Pelletier
Hi folks, Does anyone have any eperience using token-access polling software with linux like wiccp or frottle? I'm specifically interested in wiccp and how well it performs to solve the hidden node problem, and would like to chat with someone who has real world experience using either of

RE: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread Stephen Patrick
Title: RE: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale? Absolutely right regarding non-WiMax solution - Well worth a look at systems built using Mikrotik O/S, which supports 5, 10, 20 and 40MHz channels, and the latest atheros cards. Very feature-rich and good hardware support from various vendors

[WISPA] Sad News......The Passing of Joe D'Andrea of West 21

2006-05-05 Thread Bob Moldashel
I just heard about this on the Part 15 list. I am sure many here knew Joe D'Andrea of West 21 out of Asbury Park, NJ. He was definately one of the early starters in this industry. I was lucky enough to know him, having built out his primary AP site and dealing with the FCC when they came

Re: [WISPA] Wimax Hardware for sale?

2006-05-05 Thread George Rogato
I'm doing 5MHz as well as 10MHz with Star-OS and Atheros. I just ran a throughput test on a 10MHz 5 gig link and the test came back 2000+/- KB George Charles Wu wrote: You can do a 5 MHz channel size on an Atheros chip (Off the top of my head, Alvarion Airaya have implemented it so far)