Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
There is only 50Mhz available if I recall, so how many licensees can their be if each is given multiple 5Mhz channels? If only one or two companies are allowed to play in a given market then I expect 3.65Ghz to miss the market. -Matt Patrick Leary wrote: Matt, with WiMAX, a 5GHz channel is

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
I certainly understand SNR and how it effects licensed gear as well. If you want to operate a network of any size you are going to need at least 3 channels. Further, even with 3 channels you will need to operate more than one sector on the same channel at a base station, which is certainly

[WISPA] McDowell Becomes FCC Member

2006-05-30 Thread Dawn DiPietro
McDowell Becomes FCC Member Todd Shields MAY 29, 2006 - The U.S. Senate on Friday confirmed Republican Robert McDowell to be a member of the Federal Communications Commission, giving FCC Chair Kevin Martin his first working majority. With McDowell as a third Republican member of the

[WISPA] Wireless Users No Longer Charged Federal Excise Tax

2006-05-30 Thread Dawn DiPietro
May 25, 2006 Wireless Users No Longer Charged Federal Excise Tax By Susan J. Campbell TMCnet Contributing Editor As a wireless user, aren’t you glad that have been able to do your civic duty in financing the Spanish-America War? Yes, I am talking about the same war that took place at the

Re: [WISPA] Coming soon: The Web toll - Last post on this subject

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
II4A hired 2 lobbyists to write 7 template letters each, so that the 14 templates would sound and look different. Just download, sign and fax to your Congress Critter. How many people downloaded them? Less than 15. How many people were aware of them? I'd argue that could also be a

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Matt, I am not sure you understand the rules as written in terms of the light licensing. Whatever goes unlicensed with the light licensing (registration) compenent, whether it is the whole 50MHz of band or some portion there of, there is no exclusivity. That means that any number of people can

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
I misunderstood one of your earlier emails then. I thought you were advocating the split of the entire band into mutually exclusive licenses. -Matt Patrick Leary wrote: Matt, I am not sure you understand the rules as written in terms of the light licensing. Whatever goes unlicensed with the

[WISPA] Home Broadband Penetration Up 40 Percent In Past Year

2006-05-30 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Home Broadband Penetration Up 40 Percent In Past Year Washington, D.C. -- May 29, 2006 -- Adoption of high-speed Internet at home grew twice as fast in the year prior to March 2006 than in the same time frame from 2004 to 2005, according to a report of the Pew Internet American Life Project,

[WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread John Scrivner
Check this out from the Pew report. It appears that fixed wireless is much bigger than what even I thought. According to this report 8% of all broadband connections in the US are delivered via fixed broadband wireless. That means you guys! Woo Hoo! Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List:

[WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

2006-05-30 Thread Jack Unger
I've been asked if an FM broadcast station can broadcast from a remote (non-studio) location by putting the audio over an existing license-free wireless network to connect back to the main studio. On the surface of it, I don't see why this wouldn't work as long as: 1. The wireless network is

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
You are right John, that is huge. As you and I have agreed, the old reported numbers many of us suspected were low due to A) the form 477 only used to require operators to file if they had 250 or more subs, which meant most WISPs did not have to file so their numbers were invisible and B) many

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Right, I would not want that. In fact, the WiMAX Forum, Intel, Alvarion, Redline, the WCA...none of us filed reconsiderations that advocated making the whole band exclusively licensed. Within our industry only Motorola filed for total exclusive licenses, though today they have moderated their

RE: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

2006-05-30 Thread danlist
You could just convert to an IP stream and then convert back Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread George Rogato
Patrick Leary wrote: You are right John, that is huge. As you and I have agreed, the old reported numbers many of us suspected were low due to A) the form 477 only used to require operators to file if they had 250 or more subs, which meant most WISPs did not have to file so their numbers were

Re: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

2006-05-30 Thread Jeromie Reeves
What is the budget on this? Does it need to be stereo or high bitrate? 2 PC's with sound cards running winamp/shoutcast would do it. A network MP# player + shoutcast would do it and so could a network stereo extender. Jeromie Jack Unger wrote: I've been asked if an FM broadcast station can

Re: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

2006-05-30 Thread Dylan Oliver
Hi Jack,TheseareknownasStudioTransmitterLinks, and we've planned a few for our local radio conglomerates as the licensed 950 MHz STL space is rapidly melting down (who'd ever guess there could be so much interference in a licensed band!). Unlicensed is fine in many cases, but

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread David E. Smith
John Scrivner wrote: Check this out from the Pew report. It appears that fixed wireless is much bigger than what even I thought. According to this report 8% of all broadband connections in the US are delivered via fixed broadband wireless. Ouch. That study looks to be horribly

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread JohnnyO
David - I agree with you as well... I would consider this report / poll to be bogus to the actual #s of Fixed Wireless subscribers. With that being said, perhaps this mistake will work in our favor :) Or against us :( JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Jack Unger
Hopefully, the 8% (6,000,000) figure includes ONLY end-users who use wireless broadband to get to/from their home and NOT the end-users who have a copper/fiber-based (cable/telco) broadband connection to their home and then use a Wi-Fi router/access point that provides the final 50-ft

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Charles Wu
Some interesting statistics -- 30% of the WISPs who attended our last WiNOG claimed on their surveys they had been in the wireless business for more than 5 years and had more than 1k wireless CPE deployed in the field Less than 10% of them claimed to be pure-play license-exempt fixed wireless

Re: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

2006-05-30 Thread Sam Tetherow
Not sure what software they are using, but I provide a backup STL for a local FM station over my wireless network. I know they are running PCs on both ends and a proprietary software package on the PCs. If you need more information let me know and I'll ask the station manager. Sam Tetherow

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
30% of what number Charles? How many WISPs said they have over 1,000 CPE. I can only think of about 20 with that high a number. I'd like to be able to toss around a better number if it can be substantiated, even anecdotally and unscientifically like an honor survey. Patrick -Original

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
There's so much sloppy and inaccurate journalism these days that I need reassurance that the article means what it appears to be saying. So true Jack. I can't remember how many letters to the editor I have written seeking to correct articles. The latest being Friday when a local Silicon Valley

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Charles said - P.S. - I heard a rumor that the current UL market leader, Motorola Canopy sold close to $100 million in gear last year alone Probably close to true, though I believe a bit on the high side. We probably sold around $80M in UL last year out of our $195M total since our UL/licensed

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Charles Wu
30% of what number Charles? At the last show, 500+ attended representing about 350ish operators Of these, about 40% responded Unfortunately, we have a confidentiality agreement with our survey respondents, so I cannot list names How many WISPs said they have over 1,000 CPE. I can only think of

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Charles Wu
snip Probably close to true, though I believe a bit on the high side. We probably sold around $80M in UL last year out of our $195M total since our UL/licensed split has historically hovered about 60% licensed/ 40% UL. Not bad in the face of massive behemoth like Motorola. /snip So -- you sold

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Not sure why the number of customers is even important when the quality of customers can vary so wildly. I run into WISPs regularly whose ARPU is barely above $100. At 1000 customers an ARPU of $100 is only $1.2M per year. That's a lot of radios and a lot of customers for very little revenue.

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Oh I know. Most of these guys have never posted. Many are local telcos, many are local utilities, some are rural cellular folks. Some are just fairly well-run start-ups. As I have cautioned many of times before, listers need to remember that they represent a small percentage of operators out there

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Peter R.
Because number of subs is the measuring stick. Revenue is more important; but profit is the most important. Not many can speak to profit, so they measure in subs. - Peter Matt Liotta wrote: Not sure why the number of customers is even important when the quality of customers can vary so

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Profit is irrelevant for an early stage growth company. -Matt Peter R. wrote: Because number of subs is the measuring stick. Revenue is more important; but profit is the most important. Not many can speak to profit, so they measure in subs. - Peter Matt Liotta wrote: Not sure why the

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Dawn DiPietro
All, Unfortunately as Peter pointed out in a previous conversation about this most broadband consumers do not even know what they have for a connection. We won't even talk about the difference between the technologies used. As quoted from the report; Although speed matters for broadband

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread John Scrivner
The point is we have a well known, if not largely credible source, who has just released a report that says we (Fixed Wireless Broadband Providers) are serving the broadband needs of approximately 8% of US home users. We obviously have been completely ignored in other reports and surveys so

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks for the analysis Charles ;) You are right that most of the UL is in the U.S. I do not have the exact split of how much UL was in the U.S., but you are probably pretty close except on the split between PMP and backhaul in the U.S. The PMP part is probably around 85% of the U.S. number. You

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Any operator with some decent residential mix would be drooling to have a $100 ARPU Matt. No matter what technology is being used, that makes for an excellent ROI. Those CLECs you mention are also likely providing fiber and big TDM pipes as a primary focus. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion,

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Scriv, It is absolutely a step in the right direction considering all the other recent reports lump WISP's in with Satellite. Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: The point is we have a well known, if not largely credible source, who has just released a report that says we (Fixed

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Peter, While true in the simple sense, for this industry that is not always the case at this point. You need to remember that the larger WISPs continue to convert revenue into CAPEX as they scale and seek to capture new markets. I know many operators that tell me if they stopped investing in new

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Indeed, and the Pew study is very credible, well circulated on the Hill, and used frequently as source material for other briefings and other reports. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: John Scrivner

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Again, pointing to CBeyonds numbers it is clear that their average customer is not buying big TDM pipes or fiber-based services. Their starting package is $495 per month, which is just a single T1, while their next package up --which is priced higher than their ARPU-- is $895, which is just

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
I stand corrected, fair enough Matt, but wow. That's pretty rich monthly rates and an especially rich ARPU. Patrick -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE! Again,

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Brad Belton
No, not really. Our average RMC is similar to CBeyond, but the big difference is how much we keep of that RMC as it compares to CBeyond. CBeyond is still pumping dollars into their direct competitor (MaBell) and operators like us that own their own network do not. I know of ISPs like us all over

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Sam Tetherow
I know I'm in a more rural area, but the only thing I have 17,000 of in my coverage area is cows, now if I could get the RFID thing going and do realtime tracking... ;) I'm curious how many WISPs would have the coverage area that would include even a possible 1000 T1s. I know that there are

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Our APRU is currently at $669 and we have been raising that each quarter. The difference between us and CBeyond is that we don't pay any ILEC to delivery our service. Oh, and we don't have 17,000 customers... yet! BTW, our sales team has found it easier to sell $1000 services than $400. -Matt

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
Two things I would offer in regard to your situation. First, there are plenty of businesses in rural areas that buy T1s from the ILEC right now. There may not be thousands, but it doesn't take that many high ARPU customers. Case in point; we recently entered a rural market that had two local

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Rick Smith
Actually, I've begun to notice the same thing. A couple of our current customers bought some customized web programming from us for 1000's and we just took a stab in midair... ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent:

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Trying to price service like that in my market would result in an ARPU of $0. Been there, done that with the licensed LMDS players that bought my first ISP. They laughed at our 802.11 radios as baby monitors. The LMDS equipment is long gone, and unlicensed wireless broadband is now the

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
In other words, the number of licenses is infinite. Yes, but you leave out that there is a requirement to attempt to coexist, or cooperate to attempt to co-exist. And it brings out into the open, all possible interferers, where they are located, and how to contact them. It will be an

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes. But I do not believe it. I don't see how the GAO can get it that wrong, less than a 10th of a percent compared to 8%. There is no way Fixed Wireless has 8% of the market share. They must be including subscribers that have installed Wifi SoHo routers behind their Cable or DSL modems.

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 5/30/06, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right about our having some folks going back years. Maybe thelongest example would Jason's Midcoast in Maine. Midcoast goes back at leastto 1997. In addition to those, we have a pretty good crop of more recent operators that have moved

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Sam Tetherow
I am working on the dedicated bandwidth market and was making some headway until Qwest rolled out their DSL services at the begining of the month and now it is the education process all over again. Trying to explain that 3-7 meg DSL is NOT the same quality as a dedicated 1.5 meg circuit. But

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
I can't speak directly to your market, but my experience with rural markets has been eye opening. I assumed that all the high ARPU customers where in the city and the rural markets wouldn't pay for dedicated services. Turned out I was completely wrong. Businesses in rural markets have the same

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
I wouldn't count on DSL getting slower or being lower quality. Qwest has some of the highest quality bandwidth in the business. Granted that is changing now with the MCI and ATT deals. But, those independent DSL providers who wholesale access from the RBOC and couple it with Cogent are the

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Or they measure in ARPU to mask profitabilty. A higher ARPU subs is not always more profitable. Average ARPU also does not show retention rate. Having an average ARPU of $700 buck does not do any good if they are only a customer for 6 months, if they end up being disatisfied after the fact. Nor

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
I agree current profit is irrelevant, when considering company totals during the early growth period. But calcualted future Profit clearly is relevant, as far as how much profit will be made per sub, and how soon. Profitabilty can be misleading when jsut considering accounting paperwork (profit

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
8% means... You do not get preferrential treatment in legislation. You do not get subsidees to foster growth of a startup industry. You get taxed equally as telcos and cable companies. ISPs have a viable alternative, so LECs no longer need to share their networks with ISPs. 8% is a HUGE

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Are you sure about that. I was told we were not lumped in with Satelite. We were not listed as the volume was not large enough to get a percentage point. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its also easier getting roof rights, when the request comes from a large tenant, who is likely the prospect for $1000 rates. I find larger ARPU models are more predicatable, allthough more work is involved in finding the prospect base. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed

[WISPA] Hyperlinktech.com

2006-05-30 Thread Rudolph Worrell
Can someone give me their honest opinion about doing business with www.hyperlinktech.com. They seem to have a great deal of antennas and cable but I am not sure they are WISP friendly as odd as that seems. - This mail sent through IMP:

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
You make a logical point, but the market seems to disagree. Take the recent Vonage IPO as an example. By all accounts the IPO was a disaster. They offered their shares at $17 and it is now trading $13. From the financials it is clear --at least to me-- that Vonage has no future hope of

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
If nothing else, it is certainly easier to pay for the roof rights when the revenue is worth it. -Matt Tom DeReggi wrote: Its also easier getting roof rights, when the request comes from a large tenant, who is likely the prospect for $1000 rates. I find larger ARPU models are more

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Travis Johnson
Tom, There is no such thing as average profit per sub after ROI period. Let me give an example: I lease all my CPE. It is a recurring monthly debt that will never go away. Even after 3 years, when I own the CPE, there will be new CPE that needs purchased... and thus new towers, new AP's,

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Ok. Let me clarify my statement. It depends on wether you are valuing a company considering... wether its your money getting invested or someone elses. Finding a buyer to pay the price based on no profit potential, and trading publically, are two totally different animals. Tom

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-30 Thread jeffrey thomas
IN 2.4Ghz you have the 3-1 rule and a very high noisefloor, practically everywhere. On Thu, 25 May 2006 12:23:22 -0400, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 3.5Ghz does, I find that hard to believe. 2.4Ghz couldn't do it, which is why we rely on 900Mhz. What makes 3.5Ghz appropriate

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes but Vonage is also a poor example of your arguement as 75% of their expendatures is in advertising. That means 75% of their expendatures could be stopped on demand immediately, without reducing revenue. How quickly could Vonage become profitable, when they reach the approrpiate scale, and

RE: [WISPA] Hyperlinktech.com

2006-05-30 Thread Mark McElvy
I have had no problems. I only purchased a few selected panel and grid antennas but with no issues and products seem to work well. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell Sent: Tuesday, May

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Matt Liotta
As I stated, In 2005, they acquired 870,000 new customers, which even if they had acquired for free they still wouldn't represent enough revenue to pay for operations. In other words, if they stop marketing they aren't profitable. Worse, their valuation is based on growth, which they won't get

Re: [WISPA] Hyperlinktech.com

2006-05-30 Thread Joe Laura
We buy several products from them. I have always had good dealings with them. They seem to always have stock on products and ship when and how they say. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, Excellent point. My suggestion does not match your model. My model is different, as I am the financers of our radio equipment. I've paid cash in full upfront for every radio. My cash flow model sucks, but at the end of the first year, its all profit. (All our sales must be a 1 year or

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Ouch. Its got to make you want to throw up, doesn't it. Its amazing what companies get away with financially. It makes you wonder, about the intelligence of the investors. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
Fair question and you are right to call me on it Dylan. Roadstar went from a wi-fi based product, went from that to another brand, and from that to Alvarion. Each move was motivated by a desire to much improve the performance from a reliability standpoint, remote and more comprehensive

RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Patrick Leary
By the way folks, this is a great and meaningful thread on an important topic. Patrick -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE! Yes but Vonage is also a poor example of

Re: [WISPA] Hyperlinktech.com

2006-05-30 Thread Blair Davis
They have to only 24db 2.4GHz grid I will use. Reliable and easy to deal with. I have also had very good luck with their 5.8GHz 25-27db girds. Used to buy their amps, still have a lot in the system, but, IMO, www.rflinx.com makes a better amp. Pricey, but worth it. -- Rudolph Worrell

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Pete Davis
Here is an example of a ROI period ending. I put in a $500/mo T1 and rent a $100/mo tower space. My fixed costs are $600/mo I put in a $1000 AP and router, and buy 100 $200 CPE. I am now $21000 in the hole. Each customer is paying me $50/mo. ($5000/mo total) My ROI is 5 months, and my fixed

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
This discussion always fascinates me, as almost my entire market is rural and residential. I have just 3% business customers right now. The entire rest is residential. I have never formally surveyed my customers, less than 10% spend $100 or on internet / phone / data services, but I would say

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Interesting. My highest priced service level is only $65. I have about 80/20 percent mix $38 / $25 per mo customers. I have only 2 that exceed $40 / mo. This is what my business model was built on. I expect that at 500 customers, I will have a really decent paycheck and pretty solid

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread John Scrivner
Sorry TomI am going to drive a truck through your remarks here. :-) Tom DeReggi wrote: 8% means... You do not get preferrential treatment in legislation. 8% means that 8% of the people are using our service which means that our politicians have to look at how to serve the needs of

Re: [WISPA] Hyperlinktech.com

2006-05-30 Thread John Scrivner
We were banned from doing business with them because we requested a return once. Not kidding. Scriv Rudolph Worrell wrote: Can someone give me their honest opinion about doing business with www.hyperlinktech.com. They seem to have a great deal of antennas and cable but I am not sure they

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I think that's the #1 mistake that small or startup operators make: Time is money, so don't waste time or money. I hear stories of people literally spending hours and hours and hours building something because they don't want to pay $xxx for it already built. Everyone reading this list

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread Mark Nash
I have a spreadsheet that I've developed that gives me 5 years of projected monthly costs/revenue/running costs/running revenue/cost per subscriber/debt paydown. It summarizes to 5-year pl, 5-year debt, 5-year business value (1xannual), 5-year resale value (business value-debt). It does not

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-05-30 Thread George Rogato
Pretty good point there Travis. I would say the reason some get stuck in that frame of mind is because when some people start out in their business, whether its a wisp business or a widget business they start that way because they don't have much money but plenty of time. So they figure they