Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, George Rogato wrote: Most likely wispa will act on this. But, ultimately, it comes down to does the membership of wispa want to do this. Which is what I said in my first post on the subject. I don't mean to be rude, but shouldn't the paying members that make up the wispa

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-05 Thread George Rogato
Well now I don't feel so alone in my opinions :) I still consider you a wisp, isn't that what brought us all here together? George Butch Evans wrote: On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, George Rogato wrote: Most likely wispa will act on this. But, ultimately, it comes down to does the membership of wispa

Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

2006-06-05 Thread George Rogato
I don't think anyone is condoning anything Lonnie. But I am trying to defuse the issue without pissing both of you off. George Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: You miss the point George. I am not fighting. I called Johnny on his actions and he immediately went personal and abusive. I rarely speak

RE: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

2006-06-05 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Ooooh what a beautiful mnnniiiggg Ooooh what a beautiful dayy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

RE: Notice to the Board..... Was: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent aboutthis?

2006-06-05 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
I thought tomorrow was 6-6-6! If 6-4-6 made this list so active, I can hardly wait for 6-6-6. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Notice

RE: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

2006-06-05 Thread rharnish
Thanks for all your efforts over the weekend George. I'm not sure why the boxing gloves always need to come out on the weekend. Let's put this behind us NOW everyone. We all have more important things to be doing than to bicker on this mailing list. People tend to make poor judgements in the

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread David Sovereen
I agree with your sentiments completely. One needs to ask, though, why aren't ISPs supporting WISPA? The answer is more than likely the same answer most small businesses give when asked why they don't join industry associations: it's not worthwhile... it costs more money than the benefits of

[WISPA] Dave asked - Why should I send $250 to WISPA?

2006-06-05 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Dave, You ask Why should I send $250 to WISPA? I assume that you do benefit from the WISPA list, otherwise you wouldn't take the time to monitor the posts. Just the information that is available on the list is worth $250 per year to me! I only have so many hours in a day that I can work and

Re: [WISPA] USIIA

2006-06-05 Thread Peter R.
Excuse me, but USIIA has never been a friend of the independent ISP. USIIA and Dave McClure have pro RBOC on almost every issue. Verizon sits on your board! (http://www.usiia.org/about/board.htm) Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. David Sovereen wrote: Many of you seem to be of the belief that

Re: [WISPA] Join WISPA?

2006-06-05 Thread Peter R.
You must get some benefit or why be on the listserv? You obviously support two other orgs that do lobbying - and WISPA does stay active in DC on your behalf. I had made some suggestions on the Promotion list about this General List. Maybe it should be by subscription only and the archives for

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? Because Im personna non grata with WISPA and Part-15. sigh Says who? Last I knew you

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I know of that organization David. I think WISPA would be happy to work with them on this issue. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net

Re: [WISPA] USIIA

2006-06-05 Thread David Sovereen
Peter, I worked with C.L. Hoewing when I was on the board. He was thoughtful and insightful, but had no more influence on USIIA's activities or policies than anyone else. Excuse me, but USIIA has never been a friend of the independent ISP. USIIA and Dave McClure have pro RBOC on almost every

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread George Rogato
Thank you Marlon. I can not recall any issues between Mark or anyone else in wispa and I can't imagine that a difference of opinion would put somebody on the outside. I would not want to see differences of opinions put anyone on the outside. This organization is made up of many different

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I'm really at a bit of a loss as to how to deal with your question David. What's a trade association do for you? (You being generic here) The idea that the question was asked indicates to me that one doesn't understand what a trade group is for. It's not, at least not at first, there

Re: [WISPA] Join WISPA?

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
There is a members only list that is much more structured and isn't open to just anyone Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread David Sovereen
Where can I find out what WISPA's official positions are? Where can I see the letters and actions WISPA has sent on behalf of its members? The root of my questions is, How do I know that the money I spend is making a difference? I've joined organizations before. I send them my check or give

Re: [WISPA] Join WISPA?

2006-06-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: There is a members only list that is much more structured and isn't open to just anyone Is that list open only to Principal members? I am only an associate member. Do I qualify for that list? Inquiring minds... -- Butch

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-05 Thread Sam Tetherow
I want to preface this email with the statement that I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT support this law, it is an invasion of privacy and places an undue burden of responsibility on an ISP. Now that being said, as I read the article, and as some have pointed out the information being requested for archive

RE: [WISPA] Join WISPA?

2006-06-05 Thread Brian Webster
Butch, I was told as an associate member I could not be a member of the members only list. Let me know if you hear different. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: Butch Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
You just need to pay attention here and on the private list. It would be nice if someone had the time to work on the web site more. So that everyone would know what we're going right now! But those of us working are too busy doing and have no time for bragging about it. grin Watch and

Re: [WISPA] Join WISPA?

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
You are correct. The Principal members list is only for principal members. You have access to most any other list you'd care to participate on though. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread David Sovereen
I've only been on the list for about four weeks. I learned about it at the Mikrotik User Meeting in Dallas from a few of the other attendees. Since I've been on, there hasn't been any discussion of what WISPA is doing on the legislative front. If all of the good stuff is hiding in the members

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: David Sovereen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? I've only been on the list for about four weeks. I learned about it at the Mikrotik User

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi John, Where are you at on this? Did we ever get a press release sent out? laters, Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net

[WISPA] Double Ping Replies

2006-06-05 Thread Scott Reed
I had a customer call to say there connection had not been working well today.  I started to see what is going on by ping the radio.  I get 2 replies for almost every ping.  Average was about 1 at 45ms and one at 56ms.  The times are longer than normal, but my question is, how do I get 2

Re: [WISPA] Double Ping Replies

2006-06-05 Thread Jack Unger
Scott, Excessive pings is often a symptom of a poor wireless link. I would check to be sure that: a) The customer's antenna is high enough to provide a good signal back to the access point b) The link is not overly long c) There is no hardware problem in their antenna system or radio.

Re: [WISPA] Double Ping Replies

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I've seen that with the really old 2 meg Teletronics ap's. It was a timing issue on a really long link. And was unique to a firm ware version or two. What would happen was that the radio would send out the ping, not get a reply soon enough and send out a second one. Then it would get both

Re: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

2006-06-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
The radio station that I get space from was ready to do that from one of the DJ's houses in my coverage area. I agree with your thoughts below. The tough part for me (and why I eventually talked them out of the idea) is that our noise levels and competition competence levels are not

RE: [WISPA] FM Remote Broadcast over Wireless (RBOW ?)

2006-06-05 Thread Rick Harnish
We have a radio station streaming from mutually collocated tower across our backhaul. The backhaul is running Star-OS on War Boards. We had a few issues when they were streaming direct from the tower to their clients. They now send one stream to an offsite server which then serves their clients

[WISPA] PCMCIA 5.3 cards

2006-06-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
What options are out there for low lost PCMCIA cards that operate in 5.3Ghz range and/or combo 5.3G-5.8G range, that also have an external antenna jack on them? Is the SuperRange PCMCIA 100w A/ 300watt B unit the option of choice? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Double Ping Replies

2006-06-05 Thread Jack Unger
Scott, RADIOMOBILE PLOT - The Radio Mobile plot FROM your midpoint CPE back to your DLB1300 AP was very helpful and shows a fade margin of 10.7 dB which should be enough to provide reliable performance in the upstream direction, assuming that the noise level is low (below the receiver

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread Carl A Jeptha
last time I thought Wispa was international and if it is not I may as well cancel my membership. It does appear that USA Politics and legislation has been on the forefront alot. Just asking?? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

2006-06-05 Thread Peter R.
There are still things that can be learned for our Canadian members. Perhaps some of the Canadian members can form a committee to watch regulatory, legislative, and politics in Canada. There are parallels between the US Canada and they should be taken advantage of. - Peter Carl A Jeptha