RE: [WISPA] Zcomax has WIMAX?

2006-06-13 Thread tonylist
Few things of info: - 3.5Ghz is not not license free in the, 50Mhz at 3.65 is but there are issue with using this with WiMax - WiMax doesNOT do any more at 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz then theproducts on the market today in reference to RF not protocol. - The WiMax protocol has many cool features but are

[WISPA] WCA Anyone?

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Hi all, I'm going to WCA in Washington DC later this month. Anyone else going? Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Liotta
Charles Wu wrote: It is worth noting that you lose the benefits of routing protocols when you bridge your network The above is the number one reason against using VLANs for layer 2 transport. A second important issue to consider is management. Every device from end-to-end where you want

RE: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Paul Hendry
We too have been looking at moving from routed to a switched Mikrotik for the core network but the unknown quantity seems to be if there are any latency or speed issues related to the move. A true switched network is faster than a routed network as the switching is done at a hardware level but in

RE: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Interesting, completely opposite of what is commonly preached Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Monday,

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Liotta
Paul Hendry wrote: We too have been looking at moving from routed to a switched Mikrotik for the core network but the unknown quantity seems to be if there are any latency or speed issues related to the move. A true switched network is faster than a routed network as the switching is done at a

[WISPA] The muni Wi-Fi poster child lied?

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Liotta
From Techdirt http://news.techdirt.com/news/wireless/article/6717 Putting A Little Lipstick On Muni WiFi Back in May, 2004, Municipal Wireless was still just on the drawing board, but a few towns and cities were about to lead the charge into using WiFi to meet their admirable goal of providing

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread David Sovereen
Hi Matt, Actually, our testing and real-world experience shows that convergence is faster in bridged RSTP network than it is in a routed OSPF network. We ran OSPF on our wireless network, and still do on our wired network. With default settings of a hello interval of 10 seconds and a dead router

[WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread n7mfy
Gentlemen; I am in the final stages of design and have begun to guild my WISP. I was wondering what the most effective methods were for marketing? I was thinking of using the mail, possibly arranging a demo in a parking lot, flyers, and of course adding my company name to the lists on the

RE: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Paul Hendry
The delay in switching a packet at hardware is less than the delay in routing a packet at software. This is 1 of the reasons that Cisco created the GSR and why an MPLS switched network is fast than a plain routed network. I'm not too interested in convergence times as we only have very minimal

Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread Scott Reed
Wow, I can hardly afford to build my WISP and yours will be guilded!!!  With a gold plated WISP, why would you need to advertise?  :) Seriously, my WISP, and many others, has experienced steady growth with word of mouth. I have a 4'x6' sign at one tower one a fairly rural road.  Other than

[WISPA] Covad/Nextweb XO/Nextlink

2006-06-13 Thread Peter R.
Partners Tap LMDS For Powered-Up Wireless Ethernet /search/?query=Ethernet http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/17142.html http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/telecomweb.com/;sz=180x150;ord=021450 Wireless broadband service provider *Nextlink Wireless Inc.*, a subsidiary of *XO Holdings Inc.*, is teaming

RE: Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread n7mfy
Scott; I just discovered that the 'B' and the 'G' are real close together ;-) But seriously, I feel that since we have competition from cable (COX) and DSL (QWEST)I want to get out in front on this thing. For sure though, in every crowd of QWEST/COX customers some of them will be unhappy. We

Re: [WISPA] Zcomax has WIMAX?

2006-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Sure- but they don't have any plans to make base stations, so none of the base station manufacturer provided QOS mechanisms will work with zcomax clients. - Jeff On 6/12/06 7:44 PM, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.zcom.com.tw/news001.htm -- WISPA Wireless List:

[WISPA] Wyoming locations that need service

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Shot in the dark, but if there are any providers out there that can hit these places, I am a customer for you Alcova 22495 W US Hwy 220Alcova WY82620 Bairoil503 Antelope DrBairoil WY82322 Beulah 5930 Old Hwy 14Beulah WY82712 Bondurant

Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread Peter R.
I have a Power Point I did for some ISPs about Marketing. Hit me off-list with your name contact info, if you want it. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott; I

Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread pswired
I'd like to piggy-back off of this thread. I'm getting further in the planning stages for my WISP as well and am trying to come up with ideas for a pilot program. I want to get a few initial customers who will have free internet access for a month or two when I first bring the network online.

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread David Sovereen
Hi Paul, Regardless of whether you run routed or switched, the speed is about the same. Unlike a hardware switch that has special processors to handle traffic at wire speeds, a 10GB/s backplane, etc, Mikrotik runs on off-the-shelf PC hardware. The processing power needed to get a packet from

RE: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread Chad Halsted
Great Topic, this is something I have been working hard at lately and would be interested in everyones input as well. Here are some of the ways we have advertised our service. Yards signs This is my favorite. In the areas that we KNOW qualify for service, Yard Signs is a great way for

Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Hi Lee, We've had great success with 18 X 24 yard signs posted at intersections: http://www.IncomeBuddy.com/ad.php?id=68at=71 I would also suggest making friends with your local real estate developers so you can post 3' X 6' banners at the entrance to their subdivisions:

Re: [WISPA] WCA Anyone?

2006-06-13 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Matt, Ken and I are planning on it. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Hi all, I'm going to WCA in Washington DC later this month. Anyone else going? Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread Peter R.
Chad, Thanks for the great email! I'll change 2 of yours: Referrals: instead of a credit on the bill... send them a check.. that's a bigger WOW! Word of Mouth: have downloadable videos of HOWTO's. With your logo prominently displayed on shirts, hats, mouse pads, cups, etc. (Product

RE: [WISPA] How do you market your WISP

2006-06-13 Thread Chad Halsted
Chad, Thanks for the great email! I'll change 2 of yours: Referrals: instead of a credit on the bill... send them a check.. that's a bigger WOW! I like the idea of sending them a check. Like you say, that has a much bigger WOW factor. We will have to try that. Word of Mouth: have

[WISPA] Wimax corrections-The info is out there if you look

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Larson
A few corrections: The issue with 3.650 is the FCC has not decided on "ANY" spec. Wimax was never a 3.650 "issue" and this has been corrected time and time again. The FCC has stated publicly many times that Wimax was never overlooked as a platform. The wifi crowd took the "contention

Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

2006-06-13 Thread David E. Smith
Patrick Leary wrote: Indeed, and the Pew study is very credible, well circulated on the Hill, and used frequently as source material for other briefings and other reports. Just because something is widely circulated among influential people doesn't make it correct. I do firmly believe

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
favoring a layer 3 tunneling / handoff method Care to elaborate on those methods. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Comroe
Nah. What Charles misses in his commentary But all the fancy schmancy technology you implement won't do @#$@ unless 3650 is licensed b/c interference from 20 other systems in the area (including several from our GPS-synced FM-based FSK friends) eats you for breakfast, lunch dinner =( is

Re: [WISPA] Wimax corrections-The info is out there if you look

2006-06-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Title: Re: [WISPA] Wimax corrections-The info is out there if you look On the CPE pricing... Yup, and the only one shipping 5.8 product yet is Airspan. - Jeff On 6/13/06 6:42 AM, Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few corrections: The issue with 3.650 is the FCC has not decided on

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, You brought up an excellent point regarding management gains with MPLS. In many cases, I'd argue MPLS the preferable choice. But MPLS is not always a viable choice, that VLAN can deliver viably. What I mean by that is... There is not yet a complete/stable/tried-and-true MPLS Open Source

Re: [WISPA] The muni Wi-Fi poster child lied?

2006-06-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Great find on the arcticle. However, I ask, does the press hurt or help WISPs? Is it saying, they should have deplyoed Fiber? Or should have left it up to the professional local WISP, and stuck to governemt stuff? Or They need better wireless gear than Wifi? Do WISPs win, if the

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
How is it that companies who build their network with expensive name brand gear often are more successful? Answer #1: Thats debatable. Do you not recall year 2000. 26 of the largest 29 telecom companies filed for Bankruptcy. Name brand ment bankrupt. Even for Cisco! Lets not forget who the

Re: [WISPA] looking for a device

2006-06-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Anyone compared a routed solution with a Mikrotik bridged solution for delay/jitter? Good question. But the problem there is creating a real world test environment. Convergence, can be tested somewhat accurately in low network utilization situations. To adequately test Jitter/Delay you

Wierd ... was [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Comroe
My appologies to the list. I'd added a couple cents to a thread that had ended weeks ago. Wierd, but my email client just pulled about 30 emails today on these old threads as if they were new. I'm reading along ... and this thread looks familiar ... and only after sending a reply to one of

Re: Wierd ... was [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-06-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Might not be you, others commented about the Patricks late emails. Rich Comroe wrote: My appologies to the list. I'd added a couple cents to a thread that had ended weeks ago. Wierd, but my email client just pulled about 30 emails today on these old threads as if they were new. I'm

RE: Wierd ... was [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-06-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini
I ogt them too... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Comroe Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: Wierd ... was [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-06-13 Thread David E. Smith
Gino A. Villarini wrote: I ogt them too... I peeked at the headers (sorry, that's my schtick) and while the Date: header said three weeks ago, they were only sent today. I'm guessing Patrick just has a computer with a really squirrely clock. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: Wierd ... was [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-06-13 Thread John Scrivner
It is not a clock issue. All the messages that were sent with old dates were already delivered previously. These are duplicate messages. Scriv David E. Smith wrote: Gino A. Villarini wrote: I ogt them too... I peeked at the headers (sorry, that's my schtick) and while the Date:

Re: Wierd ... was [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-06-13 Thread David E. Smith
John Scrivner wrote: It is not a clock issue. All the messages that were sent with old dates were already delivered previously. These are duplicate messages. Hm. Hmmm (digs around through mail server logs) Well, the old posts from three weeks ago and the new posts from today have