911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Anyone who thinks that providing a POTS line along with VoIP service for 911 compliance either has read the order and/or has checked with council. If you provide any VoIP service your VOIP must be 911 compliant as per the order. Any other services you may or others may provide to the

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jun 19, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: I don't believe there is any real money in it either... cell phones will be the choice 5-10 years from now. VoIP is the bridge to get there. Of course, I'm talking residential users... business users are a little different... although we

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jun 19, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Does Canopy use VLAN tagging at the CPE? Yes I didn't think they did. I thought they just did passthrough like Trango? Can do that too. Canopy doesn't support bandwdith management assignment based on VLANs does it? Not per VLAN, but per

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
All of your comments are from your perspective using your low ARPU business model. When your ARPU easily exceeds $500 spending $2K on radios doesn't seem expensive. Especially in light of the fact that Canopy and Trango PtMP systems would run out of bandwidth too quick for our business

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
There are major LECs using VoIP internally while providing analog service to their customers. Therefore, it is quite possible you have had conversations over a VoIP network using your POTS lines without even knowing it. Further, the percentage likelihood that you will have such a phone call in

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I will have to find the article I read about a year ago regarding VoIP and POTS and cellular. It shows that even with the number of people that are switching, it is still VERY small when compared with the number that still have POTS and will continue to keep their land lines. In our

Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

2006-06-20 Thread David Sovereen
I'm interested in a unit, but haven't got a response. Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] the right address? Dave 989-837-3790 x 151989-837-3780 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.mercury.net 129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640 - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker To: WISPA General

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, I believe that means that the VOIP line to the customer must be able to dial 911. However, I believe it is allowed, that if at the provider's switch, they intercept 911 calls, and redirect to a pots line connected to the providers switch, it complies. So if you ahve a local regional

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: However, I believe it is allowed, that if at the provider's switch, they intercept 911 calls, and redirect to a pots line connected to the providers switch, it complies. That is incorrect. What gives you that impression? So if you ahve a local regional switch and

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Businesses don't care about voip here because long distance rates are so cheap that some of them would actually increase their costs by moving to voip. They are? Our customers are saving anywhere from $100 to $2,000 per month on long distance with our

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
customer isn't going to want a cheap piece of network equipment either. I thought that was the point I was trying to get across. Thus my recommendation for a high quality switch. SMC AL2 series managed switches. Have a Cisco type firmware. IVL supported, unlike the older switch models.

Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

2006-06-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16213716 Visit the forum. Brian David Sovereen wrote: I'm interested in a unit, but haven't got a response. Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the right address? Dave 989-837-3790 x 151 989-837-3780 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Horsecrap. All I am selling is the phone system. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Liotta wrote: Anyone who thinks that providing a POTS line along with VoIP service for 911 compliance either has read the order and/or has checked with council. If you provide any VoIP service your VOIP

Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

2006-06-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] David Sovereen wrote: I'm interested in a unit, but haven't got a response. Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the right address? Dave 989-837-3790 x 151 989-837-3780 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mercury.net http://www.mercury.net

[WISPA] Hearing on USF

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
From: On Behalf Of Eric Lee Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Open-net-working-group] Hearing on USF There will be a hearing tomorrow on the high-cost-fund in the House Energy and Commerce Committee. I’m told but can’t confirm that there will be a follow-up

Re: [WISPA] OT: about 70Mbps for under $6K

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, We've been through this debate a number of times comparing PTP models to PtMP models, and which is better. I am in no way saying PtP models are not good, just different things to consider, neither better. The acceptabilty of PtMP model has nothing to do with ARPU of subscriber. I can

RE: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread tonylist
Marlon We are looking at this now for Demarc and I can tell you the cost is less vs. pots if setup correctly . We have 5 standard pots lines coming in now at a basic cost of $220 after you add in all the taxes and fees. The we pay about $40 a month for long anywhere, any time, unlimited distance

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
I would almost buy this statement if it weren't for the fact that cell phone call quality is horrible. Add bluetooth headsets to the equation and windshear and I can't hear a blessed word some people are saying. And this has not stopped people from using cell phones. Consumers switch to VoIP

[WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/17310.html http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/telecomweb.com/;sz=180x150;ord=021450 The *Wireless Communications Association International* (WCA) has come down against network-neutrality legislation, joining one of the pressure

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
I agree. I didn't say consumers demanded better quality. I jsut said that when people are discussing quality of VOIP, they use the wrong criteria. I can also argue that its not ALL about price. And the reason is people don;t seem to have any problem paying their cell phone bill that on

RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Patrick
Title: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Hi there, Not detracting from this great debate, but I'd have to make some Mikrotik comments at this point. We use their OS in our radios and the end product we have on the market does out-perform several well-known

[WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone http://techdirt.com/articles/20060530/0032231.shtml For way too long, most of the attention on VoIP has focused on how it's a cheaper telephone replacement option -- which a few people have pointed out is the wrong lesson to take from VoIP. Yes, it

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
That is incorrect. What gives you that impression? listening to others' conversations, but I am not knowledgeable on the subject yet, and I take your word for it. That is incorrect. A POTS line will only be able to provide ANI/ALI information as configured by the LEC providing the POTS

RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K

2006-06-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick
I thought it worth chipping in - just my £0.01's worth. Now that's harsh...the English Pence isn't worth 2 cents...yet. Figuring it correctly: just my 1.0871p worth :-) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: Why can't I write a script in Linux/Asterix that says, if Source phone number equals my client, and destiantion phone number equalls 911, move this call to POTS Line A, a POTS line with an area code/phone xxx-xxx appropriaite for the region where that customer resides.

[WISPA] Re: 911 compliance

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
The 911 call is going to use SS7 information like caller ID and address from the LIDB database to send help. Your script can't really do that. If it could, you would need to test hck out of it and find a way to get insurance to cover when it didn't work and you were sued for criminal

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread David Sovereen
I respectfully disagree and think that WCA's position of less regulation and allowing network operators operate their networks how they want is the right approach. Net neutrality legislation opens the door for content companies and your subscribers to force open and equal access to all

RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K

2006-06-20 Thread Stephen Patrick
Title: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Nice one Jeff... Absolutely right - and our over-priced currency deserves some stick, not us (the people) :-) -Original Message- From: Jeff Broadwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 June 2006

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
Nah. It's just a phone. Ordinary wired phones already offer more features than people want without VoIP. Ordinary phone service typically offers you a list of 25 features. People don't want em, so in my midwest Ameritech area (now ATT land) they typically throw in 5 features from the

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
It was my impression that most of the US has unmetered local US long distance available for $60 ... something / month. I do. To save $100 to $2000 per month on long distance with VoIP would mean they'd have to be paying the subscriber money back Out of that $60/month phone bill, the

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
I beg to differ... Find-me/follow-me, Outlook Integration, Billing Platform Integration, video phone, do not disturb, call logs, distributed call centers, IVR, and the list goes on VoIP is actually more than a phone. But then it is to business, not necessarily resi, which it is about

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
VZ Local/LD single Resi POTS line in Tampa, FL is $78 total bill. My CallVantage line is $41. Rich Comroe wrote: It was my impression that most of the US has unmetered local US long distance available for $60 ... something / month. I do. To save $100 to $2000 per month on long distance

RE: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread tonylist
Rich In general I would agree with you expect for two features, one is video. Phones like the Grandstream GXV-3000 have are low cost with all the features one would need. I am not saying this is there yet as its not plug and play but it's a step in the right direction. Also the second is

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Wow... my Qwest bill with Caller-ID, Caller Blocking, etc. is $38 per month total (including all taxes, surcharges, etc.). Travis Microserv Peter R. wrote: VZ Local/LD single Resi POTS line in Tampa, FL is $78 total bill. My CallVantage line is $41. Rich Comroe wrote: It was my impression

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Blake Bowers
Thats because ISDN really stands for I Still Don't No... Back in the 80's when Bellsouth introduced it in Nashville, the techs had to make repeated stops at my house to finally get it going. Probably 20 of them. Bellsouth introduced it, without bothering to show their employees how to make

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Sam Tetherow
I think David is right on. I remember the peering wars in 95' and they didn't last long because people would not put up with it then, and internet to the private businesses/individuals was fairly new then. The priority wars will go the same way. If Qwest doesn't give you a reasonable speed

[WISPA] ATA - SIP Adapters

2006-06-20 Thread danlist
I am wondering if there are any suggestions for an ATA - SIP Adapter with 1 or 2 POTS jacks. We are running asterisk, so if you have experience with an ATA that works well with asterisk that would be great Thanks Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
But then it is to business, not necessarily resi, which it is about dial-tone. We've reached agreement! I agree completely. I missed where your comments were defined towards business customers. Wisps that I work with serve predominantly residential customers, which was my 2 cents. I know

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
Business users, sure IP video conferencing is great. I love it, and use it myself. Residential: sure I've setup skype video-conferencing with other techie friends ... and then not turned it on again (everybody else I call just has an ordinary phone). Ya'never'know. But I wouldn't wager any

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
grinIt Still Doesn't Work would be ISDW!/grin Got a chuckle out of your reply but I get your meaning. Asked the question, What is ISDN, the answer you're thinking of is I Still Don't Know. I'm sure that's the one you were thinking of. Got'ta love ISDN. I actually tried it for awhile. In

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
That was my experience exactly! Finally used my own protocol analyzer (my PC) and saw each Q931 request being auto-repeated before the first D channel acks came back (there was nearly a SECOND of D channel delay!!). At that point it was obvious and I had the phone technicians switch me from a

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'd say we need to support WCA's post. In politics it possible to get a double standard to pass. ILECS / Cable companies need Net Neutrality, wireless providers do not. Do you know what it would do to our cell phone bills, if Internet enabled Cell phones were required to allow users to use

Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
I only mentioned Mikrotik as its abilty to pass large packets has been tested. I believe we couldn't do that with StarOS as a limitation of Wifi clients (although not positive, as I did not investigate WDS options on StarOS which allows the large packets and full passing bridge features.) With

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Maybe a better way to do it would be to exclude UNlicensed wireless providers from Net Neutrality, but include all other wireless providers :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: 911 compliance (was Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering -Skype, Yahoo, MS)

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thanks Matt. That clears up my confusion. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: 911 compliance (was

Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Title: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K The secret of Net Neutrality is that there is no harm in NOT HAVING NET NEutrality for under dog small providers. Market pressures FORCE us to not unnecessisarilly block access. If we block, and they want, they

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
I have $9 a month unmetered long distance, and $30 unmetered Europe long distance. But some how I managed to get a $2000 long distance bill, that is now in dispute, and ended up in our home phone lines (long distance and local lines) being disconnected by Verizon. Good thing I was not using

RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K

2006-06-20 Thread danlist
While they do an ok job w/ wireless, IMO, their strength is more the convenience coming from the integration of multiple packages and its flexibility rather than the performance of any single feature If you're looking at purely a wireless solution (in this do-it-yourself genre) -- you

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jun 20, 2006, at 4:37 PM, David Sovereen wrote: How many WISPs on this list are limiting P2P traffic separate from other traffic? I'll bite... I am. We don't How many WISPs on this list are prioritizing VoIP traffic separate from other traffic? I'll bite. I am. And I only

[WISPA] Talking Point: Broadband, the phone company, and a lot of money

2006-06-20 Thread David E. Smith
This is turning out to be a fun little read: http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm (there's a link on that page to download their 400-page PDF book, free this week only, after that it's $20) This book alleges that over the past twenty years, the various RBOCs have essentially scammed

Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS

2006-06-20 Thread Matt Liotta
Businesses with multiple lines and many employees are not able to buy unmetered service. -Matt On Jun 20, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Rich Comroe wrote: It was my impression that most of the US has unmetered local US long distance available for $60 ... something / month. I do. To save $100 to

RE: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Rich, I don't agree. My Lingo service is $20 a line, unlimited calling to Europe-US-Canada, and I use simultaneous ring to cell when I'm away, I use voicemail-to-Email (instantaneous) when I'm at the office or away, and use quite a few other features. My ATT line was 3 times that and no Europe

Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer

2006-06-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
He gave me the final prices for these, so if anyone was interested, I can forward it to you. OFFLIST Brian Brian Rohrbacher wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Sovereen wrote: I'm interested in a unit, but haven't got a response. Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the right address?

RE: [WISPA] ATA - SIP Adapters

2006-06-20 Thread Mac Dearman
Dan, We have bought a lot of stuff from these folks and these adapters are really highly recommended and have worked well. http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=321 Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I'd like to point out that it can work the other way, when the telcos and cabelcos demand a premium above the normal price to be able to access all services or have your VOIP phone work at all, or watch live video, or any one of a number of items. IF you think that backbone providers are going to

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
You guys that post using this incredibly annoying bar at the left... why do you do it? It makes c onversational email impossible... Read on below. comments are prefaced with North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to:

Re: [WISPA] Talking Point: Broadband, the phone company, and a lot of money

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I'd take whatever this says with a LARGE load of salt. For instance, this paragraph: New franchises? Verizon's FiOS and ATT's Lightspeed are inferior services. We're 16th in broadband because they companies conned the American Public and never delivered. Asia has 100 Mbps services for $40

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
why do you do it? I'm a top poster. I hate having to essentially re-read the previous email to find the added reply comments (especially when it's a long email and you ultimately just find an added "yeah me too" way down at the bottom). I find that incredibly annoying. I prefer replies

Re: [WISPA] VoIP Is About More Than Replacing The Phone

2006-06-20 Thread Rich Comroe
Very cool. I love gadgets too ... got'ta play with them all. Rich, I don't agree. But I've no idea what I said that you disagree with. What I said was I don't see VoIP providing advanced services that the consumer marketplace as a whole is going to pick-up (for example, the way caller-id

Re: [WISPA] Talking Point: Broadband, the phone company, and Bruce

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
I guess you have to know Bruce Kushnick to understand the book. He was a consultant for the Big Boys. When he couldn't stomach how they were ripping everyone off, he switched sides. He has piles of data - much of it from the ILECs themselves in press releases, PUC statements, etc. Get the

[WISPA] Wv Coverage anyone?

2006-06-20 Thread chris cooper
Title: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K Im looking for some connectivity in Huntington and Charleston West Virginia. If anyone can help, hit me off list. Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Talking Point: Broadband Scandal book

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I'd take whatever this says with a LARGE load of salt. For instance, this paragraph: New franchises? Verizon's FiOS and ATT's Lightspeed are inferior services. We're 16th in broadband because they companies conned the American Public and never delivered. Asia has 100

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Peter R.
I'd like to point out that the RBOCs own the backbone, the last mile, and the cellular companies, so if they filter or prioritize it should be interesting. Word is L3 is buying all fiber so that they can be equals with VZ att. - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Talking Point: Broadband Scandal book

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Talking Point: Broadband Scandal book Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I'd take whatever this says with a LARGE load of salt. For

Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K

2006-06-20 Thread David Sovereen
Title: RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K While it may sound great to have a "double standard law," it isn't realistic. Recent FCC ruling trends tell us that. For years, telephone companies have been heavily regulated while cable companies have not. DSL

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Sam Tetherow
Responses inline... Mark Koskenmaki wrote: You guys that post using this incredibly annoying bar at the left... why do you do it? It makes c onversational email impossible... Read on below. comments are prefaced with North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Larry Yunker
Dave, I can see your points and I agree that OVER-regulation could lead to the sort of harms that you list. Unfortunately, the alternative of NO-regulation would enablebackbone providers of the internet toweed out the smaller providers by deprioritizing traffic, blocking ports, charging

Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality

2006-06-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against Net Neutrality Responses inline... - Original Message - *From:* David Sovereen