Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
Even if the Second radio was turned off, it would still receive the signal from the other radio, if their was a physical connection/circuit in place. Without attennuators in line, I'd assume that over time you'd eventually blow the receiver of the other radio even if it was off. Also possibly

[WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread chris cooper
We had the lightning storm of the century here 2 days ago. It was an awesome spectacle to witness. It was a much more distressing spectacle to watch our network map begin to blink red all over the place. Which leads me to a couple of questions: How do you handle customer installations

Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread Scott Reed
What a storm in Indiana! We, too, own the radios and have been taking the loss. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WISPA] WDS PtMP

2006-10-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
Background In standard WIFI, a principle exists called hidden note, where two CPEs transmit at the same time andcolidebecause they do not hear each other. There are three ways to get around that, using WIFI between Client and AP. 1) Polling (Karlnet, Nstream, Proprietary), 2) Use Omnis,

Re: [WISPA] Auto rate or Locked rate 802.11b

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I almost always let the radios work it out. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)

Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
If it's your equipment and the customer didn't damage it (hit it with a rock etc.) then it's your problem to deal with. The cheaper the gear, usually the easier it is to break :-). I've had much less trouble this year with cpe from Tranzeo than from any other brand I've used. Marlon(509)

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
 I've done all of our installations so things have been easy, but I'm moving toward contractor installs. As it has been, I have not done site surveys...I go out to install and if I don't get the connection I walk away and the customer doesn't owe us anything. So I'm out a little time and a

[WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

2006-10-06 Thread Blake Bowers
Crown Castle agreed to acquire Global Signal for 4 billion cash and stock deal as of yesterday. Good news for us small guys! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] WDS PtMP

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] WDS PtMP Background In standard WIFI, a principle exists called hidden note, where two CPEs transmit at the same time and colide because they do not hear each

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I've been told to never do this. The output of the transmitting radio will totally deafen the receiving one. It might work for just a few customers at a time (or with something that would sinc like the Moto products) but I think that much usage on the network would kill it pretty fast. I've

Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread KyWiFi LLC
We offer an optional $4.99 Equipment Protection Plan for residential subscribers and it's $9.99 for Commercial and Non-Profit accounts. If they wish to waive it, they must furnish us with documentation from their insurance agency stating that it will be covered. No exceptions. As a result, approx.

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
why? Who are they? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

2006-10-06 Thread Matt Liotta
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: why? Who are they? Our two biggest landlords. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

2006-10-06 Thread Brad Belton
CC is a tower company...but I don't recall them necessarily being wISP friendly. We must assume Blake has had better luck negotiating with CC than Global Signal. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509)

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

2006-10-06 Thread Blake Bowers
Crown Castle and Global signal are two of the Giants in the tower industry. What it does for the WISP industry is make it tougher to lease from them, historically as they get bigger, if you are not a cellular carrier you are not of interest to them. What it does for the smaller tower owners, is

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Either I am a bad explainer or there are some bad readers here. Lets start again. Lately I have had issues because WiFi sucks (wish I could afford proprietary) moving on.I have been using different radio cards and have ended up having to switch the pigtails from u.fl to mmcx or visa

RE: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

2006-10-06 Thread n7mfy
Crown castle is a tower company, and they own thousands of radio towers. It is probably very bad for little guys like us.. Probably an increase in site fees. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:28:27 -0700

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Jason
Brian, This is still a seriously bad idea. Sorry. Unterminated pieces of coax attached to the system will behave as filters. For instance, a piece of coax that is 1/4 wavelength long acts as a DEAD SHORT if the end of it is open. If the end of the coax is shorted then it acts as an

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Ya, Blair called and we talked about it. Ok to the next part. Probably what I should find is a u.fl to mmcx adapter and a mmcx to u.fl adapter so I can adapt. Expanding from that, is there any such WISP emergency include all cable adapter kit that exists? Brian Jason wrote: Brian,

[WISPA] wireless fiber revisited

2006-10-06 Thread Mario Pommier
Hi, Several weeks ago I posted BridgeWave and GigaBeam prices and quick features of wireless Gbps gear. Has anyone tried or know about this option: -- Proxim Gigalink 6451e- 60Ghz; unlicensed; $10,500 complete link; ? 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps Pricing is attractive, isn't it

Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
ah bummer Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread Brent Hegerfeld
Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few months. Knocked a backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1 week), another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's. I'm told the probability of lightning over the next 4 months is low. Let's hope. Brent

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Put in bulkhead type n-f gender benders. I use them all of the time. No changing the weather sealing. Ever. Just have to use n-m piggys instead of bulkhead ones. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
That doesn't apply to inline pieces does it? Only ones that don't terminate to anything Otherwise every pigtail would be a disaster in the making Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
yeah, I carry TWO each of n-m/m and n-f/f connectors in my laptop case. Do the adapters in a bigger lower loss connector. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Jason
Marlon, Correct, it only applies to open coax (or shorted as in the second part of my example). Normally all the impedances must match for a good power transfer, ie, 50ohm transmitter, 50ohm coax, 50ohm antenna. Then everyone's happy. In line coax has little affect on the signal other

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread George Rogato
The real issue here is that Brian needs to figure out why he has to change radio cards and pigtails frequently. Fix that issue and skip the splitter would be my advice. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread Jason Hensley
Since I own the gear, my insurance company will actually cover under equipment located offsite. We had a bad one here too about a month ago. Direct hit on a 5.8 omni on the tip of my tower. Disintegrated that antenna, blew the front off the Tranzeo 6000 it was connected to. Took out 2

Re: [WISPA] lmr 400 splitter

2006-10-06 Thread Blair Davis
We have had some nasty lightening up here the last few weeks I've had several deafened radio cards from it... But, I've been using the n-male pigtails and n-female-2-n-female bulkheads for years Much easier. George Rogato wrote: The real issue here is that Brian needs to figure out

Re: [WISPA] lightning

2006-10-06 Thread Jason Hensley
I guess it was actually a Tranzeo TR5a the 5.8 omni was connected to...doh!!! Killed a 6000 as well though. - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning