[WISPA] Latin American Broadband Explodes

2006-12-13 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Monday, December 11, 2006 Latin American Broadband Explodes Competitive pricing from cable operators like VTR in Chile have helped boost the country's broadband market, the highest per capita in Latin America. (Photo: VTR) Broadband growth is driven by demand, but also by the level of

[WISPA] What are south burbs doing about broadband Internet?

2006-12-13 Thread Dawn DiPietro
What are south burbs doing about broadband Internet? Broadband: Still a buzzword for local leaders in Scott and Dakota counties. By Sarah Lemagie, Star Tribune Last update: December 12, 2006 – 10:16 AM As Minneapolis and suburbs such as St. Louis Park move ahead with citywide wireless

[WISPA] Study: Broadband big with home Web users

2006-12-13 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 · Last updated 12:21 p.m. PT Study: Broadband big with home Web users THE ASSOCIATED PRESS NEW YORK -- More than three-quarters of residential Web users got on the Internet using a high-speed broadband connection in November, according to a study released Tuesday.

RE: [WISPA] Welcome Imagestream - WISPA's Newest Vendor Member!

2006-12-13 Thread Mac Dearman
Welcome Jeff - J.C and whole ImageStream gang! I don't know what the rest of you guys/gal's think, but to me - - WISPA is gaining ground, industry recognition and respect amongst our peer's. When we have quality vendors (such as we have) coming on-board it tells me that we will soon have the

RE: [WISPA] remote power

2006-12-13 Thread Dylan Bouterse
We use APC. http://apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7900 Very nice unit. Has a WAP interface for cell phones. Sends alerts like the UPS network interfaces. Displays AMP usage. May not be the cheapest out there, but it's very refined and backed by a reputable company. Dylan

Re: [WISPA] Welcome Imagestream - WISPA's Newest Vendor Member!

2006-12-13 Thread Peter R.
It also means that at some point organization will have to be established with committees to handle recruiting new, paid members; vendors; etc. Vendors need to get ROI - pay back on the membership fee. Vendors need member support, just as members need Vendor support. If you have a favorite

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Matt Liotta
I spent an hour or so yesterday on the phone with the Director of Sales for Exalt. We are working on getting one of their backhauls in for testing now. From the specs... I like that I can deploy it similar to Canopy backhauls because of the sync. I like that it is a tri-band radio like the

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Travis Johnson
And, how much do you like the price? Travis Matt Liotta wrote: I spent an hour or so yesterday on the phone with the Director of Sales for Exalt. We are working on getting one of their backhauls in for testing now. From the specs... I like that I can deploy it similar to Canopy backhauls

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
So there is no misunderstanding. My original comment was based on radios like early WMUX, that used the whole spectrum range. I have nothing against high capacity radios 100mbps FDX and Higher. I don't have anything against selecting higher capacity radios when needed, or chosing a radio that

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread michaeldavidlake
Not sure which radios your reffering to as not being FCC certified but you should dig deeper than the surface. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Again, since we only run PtP gear our signal well exceeds everyone else's. That's my point. You feel it doesn't matter because your signal is stronger and you initially survive. The Ostrage syndrom, if I stick my head in a hole and don't see it, it must not be there. Or the I care about me

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: If our link is up, and we see new interference on it, we go after the interferer until they move. I can tell you, if someone puts up a radio using all 100mhz of spectrum, and it happens to cross one of our cellsite or subscribers taking them down, the offendor's link will be

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Matt Liotta
Travis Johnson wrote: And, how much do you like the price? I haven't gotten final pricing yet, but I was led to believe it was comparable to Orthogon. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Brian Webster
Bob, Great rant! Coming from the same industry you have I totally agree. You have to face the facts unpleasant as they may be. This reminds me of the old saying My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts! Too many start up WISP's have this viewpoint and won't pay attention to

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)

2006-12-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I would say you're right Dylan so I am posting this reply on-list so everyone knows the outcome of our newest company policy regarding site surveys. (see below) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Is it 64 Mhz in both directions (full 64Mhz TX), or 32 mhz in each direction (one for TX one for RX)? If 32Mhz in each direction, I'd argue pretty darn efficient for 100mbps FDX. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message -

[WISPA] Website update suggestion

2006-12-13 Thread Butch Evans
While I like the layout of WISPA's website, I think the vendor member banners are too low on the main page. Why not create another page with the vendor member banners and the blurb that gets posted to the list? This link could be placed prominently on the top section of the main page. Just

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Bob Moldashel
Considering my name comes up here several times I guess I should reply Tom DeReggi wrote: So there is no misunderstanding. My original comment was based on radios like early WMUX, that used the whole spectrum range. I have nothing against high capacity radios 100mbps FDX and Higher. I

RE: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Brad Belton
Wow Tom. That comment is really out of character and your emotions must have gotten the best of you. Doing what you suggest with your Equalizer is going to get you in a boat load of trouble one day. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
state it on a public mailing list easily searchable by Google almost ensures a law suit should you ever take your suggested course of action. There are numerous better ways to deal with interference and/or competitors. I disagree. The reason is I have the right to install a Point to

Re: [WISPA] Website update suggestion

2006-12-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I don't have a problem with it the way it is. However, I agree that we should make our vendor members a bit more prominent. I'd suggest that they also get rotated through a small banner at the top of the page. Or, maybe we should be more like the big boys, and sell *a* spot at the top of

[WISPA] ups feedback

2006-12-13 Thread Mario Pommier
Hi, I'm looking for feedback from the field on this UPS: Tripp Lite *SMART1200LCD (can be rack mounted, 2U)? They are about $100 less than a 2U-750-VA APC model ... thus the question. I've never used them so I wouldn't want to recommend it to the customer. Thanks. Mario* -- WISPA

Re: [WISPA] spectrum analyzer

2006-12-13 Thread Ron Wallace
Blair, Check this out, www.torontosurplus.com, Techtronics 491 SA, $995.00, back in the day it was the best on the market Ron Wallace -Original Message- From: Blair Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 02:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Bob, You've been in this industry a long time, and there is not much I can tell you that you do not already know. But respectfully I will reply. I have no problem with people installing Exalts, they are great radios. I have no problem with other providers and companies installing Radios in

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, Although, your response is politically correct. I turn the question around If you had a $1000 a month ARPU customer link, and a competitor shot a PTP 100Mhz link through you, not caring that you were going to get brought down, how would you handle it? It happens, reported many

[WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Peter R.
If you have ideas for sessions that you want to see at the next ISPCON, please let me know. Also, good time to book your room and your family trip for Orlando. Kayak.com has a great rate for the room at the Rosen at $150. Marriott condos are just $225. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc.

[WISPA] guru opinions

2006-12-13 Thread Carlos A. Garcia G
Hi i have to ask again about a different setup i want to construct my radio not the hardware but software part, maybe using OpenBSD, Linux or FreeBSD or play with all of those in WARP or SOEKRIES but i need your opinion which one do you think its best, im wondering what to buy -- WISPA

RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Doug Hass is looking at building a session on CALEA. Would that be of interest? Doug has an extensive data background, is well published, and is currently in law school, so he would have a very cogent perspective on this matter. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Peter R.
With all the FUD surrounding CALEA that would be a great idea. He might want to team up with Kris Twomey, attorney of the ISP stars. - Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. Jeff Broadwick wrote: Doug Hass is looking at building a session on CALEA. Would that be of interest? Doug has an extensive data

[WISPA] Bid For Equipment

2006-12-13 Thread Forbes Mercy
We are moving into our next expansion of our network and upgrading the back-end. It consists of 20 projects to be completed in the next six months and we are looking for both leasing companies and vendors to bid on our list. For the purpose of asking your help in aiming in the right direction

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Bob Moldashel
OK...Lets look at this whole issue with one other twist. Let's say you need a large pipe to carry 100 Mb full duplex between 2 locations. You happen top have a $15K link sitting on the shelf that you could deploy. In doing so you may wipe out or interfere with the poor little WISP 2 miles

RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Jeff Broadwick
From Doug: Another good topic for ISPCON would be an introduction to OLSR (Optimized Link State Routing). This routing protocol is beginning to replace OSPF on wireless ISP networks and other mobile and meshed networks. I've found that many providers don't know it even exists, much less how to

Re: [WISPA] guru opinions

2006-12-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Is this for something to play with or something to run a business with? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread michaeldavidlake
Your point is extremely valuble considering there are alot of people out there claiming to use point to point radios when in reality they are putting up a Multipiont ap and sm with the spray and pray mantality. ( extremly unengineered and poorly erenginered.) Some of those same people don't

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Well, SOP in a case like this is to find a way to not cause catastrophic interference to anyone that was there first. Lets change your example a little bit. Lets make it a link that the E911 system uses. You gonna blow it offline just because you can? Should you do that? What would your

Re: [WISPA] guru opinions

2006-12-13 Thread Carlos A. Garcia G
2 play :) Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 escribió: Is this for something to play with or something to run a business with? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I'm interested in learning more about that. But I want FCC and DOJ personnel there. Not someone that can read to me what I can read to myself. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] guru opinions

2006-12-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
In that case, try them all. Each has different pro and con. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
You are still totally missing the point... In doing so you may wipe out or interfere with the poor little WISP 2 miles away. What do you do??? Thats not generally the outcome. If the little WISP down the street just goes away, there is no problem. But he doesn't because his whole

Re: [WISPA] guru opinions

2006-12-13 Thread Carlos A. Garcia G
Got the message Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 escribió: In that case, try them all. Each has different pro and con. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'd take it one step further... Protocols to optimize QOS on Transit routing. Is BGP good enough anymore? What options are there to do the equivellent of OSLR for Transit and peering. For example, what merit is there to Internap's smart routing theories? What options exist for WISPs? There is

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: I'd take it one step further... Protocols to optimize QOS on Transit routing. Is BGP good enough anymore? What options are there to do the equivellent of OSLR for Transit and peering. For example, what merit is there to Internap's smart routing theories? We own a Internap

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Bob Moldashel
Oh Comon' Dude. A life safety system on unlicensed microwave??? What idiot would put the E911 system on Part 15 to begin with? That's just a lawsuit looking to happen. And as far as your second example...what happens when the other WISP is uneducated and builds a crappy system and his

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I'll take OLSR, please Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff Broadwick wrote: From Doug: Another good topic for ISPCON would be an introduction to OLSR (Optimized Link State Routing). This routing protocol is beginning to replace OSPF on wireless ISP networks and other mobile and meshed

RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
attachments don't seem to get through. Can you post a link? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25 Tom DeReggi wrote:

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Bob Moldashel
Tom, You have been responding to this whole thread like I have been attacking your position. I'm not. My statement in a summary... Efficient use of the spectrum has multiple positions. Unfortunately others may not fit into my business plan. I am not saying blow them off the air and

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Matt Liotta
CHUCK PROFITO wrote: attachments don't seem to get through. Can you post a link? http://www.oneringnetworks.com/fcp.jpg -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread michaeldavidlake
The right thing to do is to coordinate the install with the wisp so you can monitor the exsisting link while installing the new and have plan B ready to go if there is a conflict. No harm no foul. That can be a challenge if you don't know the wisp is even there. I have done this

[WISPA] There is so much more we can do to make money with our customers

2006-12-13 Thread George Rogato
Here's a perfect example of the extra stuff that makes networking exciting. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/brazil_odd_camera_dc -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'll accept that reply, without disagreeance. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
What they do looks pretty cool. We currently got a 30 mbps wireless link from our master data center to an Internap datacenter building, about 1/4 mile away. We were thinking of getting a second transit from them, and upgrading the link speed to their building. At that distance even 60Ghz

[WISPA] Mikrotik / SR9 / Incorrect Noise Floor

2006-12-13 Thread Rick Smith
I've been seeing something strange in a pop I'm changing over from Trango 900 to Tik and SR9. The Trango AP reports the noise floor ( on all 4 channels ) to be no worse than -88 (for vpol, that's awesome!) I can make a link from 2 miles out with the trango, no problem. I remember surveying

[WISPA] more ip tracking upgrades

2006-12-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Brandon has just made some changes on our tracking system. The biggest one is that we can now see top users per day. This will allow us to follow more of what's going on at night. Like yesterday, someone sent 3 gigs up to the net. They've got something on their machine that they are really