RE: [WISPA] more ip tracking upgrades

2006-12-14 Thread Rick Smith
now that's cool. See if Brandon can figure out the how many hosts are behind that IP address solution where you can then figure out who's reselling your service or just plain sharing it with everyone and their neighbor, at your expense. I've heard there's a set of bytes in the netflow headers

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-14 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: We currently got a 30 mbps wireless link from our master data center to an Internap datacenter building, about 1/4 mile away. We were thinking of getting a second transit from them, and upgrading the link speed to their building. At that distance even 60Ghz could work. We

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Orlando May 23-25

2006-12-14 Thread Peter R.
Speaker submissions are next week for the show in May in Orlando. http://www.ispcon.com/speak.php Doug Hass wrote: Another good topic for ISPCON would be an introduction to OLSR (Optimized Link State Routing). This routing protocol is beginning to replace OSPF on wireless ISP networks and

RE: [WISPA] more ip tracking upgrades

2006-12-14 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Rick Smith wrote: I've heard there's a set of bytes in the netflow headers that will tell you the mac address of the host behind the NAT box... No..not the mac address, but it is reasonable to guess the number of computers behind a nat device. This is based on the TCP

Re: [WISPA] more ip tracking upgrades

2006-12-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
That might be interesting. In our case we don't mind (much) if that happens. Naturally, it's totally against out TOS. However, we bill per bit. If you want to share it with everyone around you, you just have to pay for the privilege. And I don't get stuck with all of the tech support :-).

[WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi All, As most of you know, we bill for bits not speed. All of our customers go as fast as we can make them go. They do have to be responsible users though. To this end we had a 1 gig per month transfer limit. When I say gig, I mean it in the sense of what 1mbps service would be. So I

[WISPA] Grrrr... pigtails

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Thanksgiving day, my son and I put up a future customer's CPE up in the woods. I mean, up in the mountains, log cabin, beyond phone and power. They have a generator, batteries, solar panels, etc. We did it because snow was predicted and already a little bit had fallen. We got it there, link

Re: [WISPA] more ip tracking upgrades

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
If your IP addy's aren't changing often you can use ntop to classify traffic for you. I use it to tell whether or not traffic is human-generated or if it's from a worm or p2p. http://www.ntop.org Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448

RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Larry A Weidig
Marlon: The first part is pretty easy, we will just assume a 30 month day: Bytes = 1,000,000 bps * 60 seconds/min * 60 min/hour * 24 hours/day * 30 days / 8 bits/byte = 324,000,000,000 The next part to covert to gigabytes is where people will have disputes. I use 1GB =

Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
That helps. Thanks! As an fyi here's what I pay for my bw. In Odessa I have a 10 meg fiber link. I pay for internet at $200 per month based on our average usage. In and out are combined. In Ephrata, where we have the servers etc. I have a 100 meg fiber link. I pay for internet at $250

[WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Forbes Mercy
We're still looking for the ideal Access Point. We realize we can't pack much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation. We use basically three types: Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable, the New Smartbridges replacements which don’t seem to want to

RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Rick Smith
http://www.mikrotik.com hands down these days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AP Search We're still looking for the ideal Access Point. We

RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
You can setup limits based on a block of Ips, you can say, 2 meg for say 30 min, then drop them down to another speed, such as 128k. This is very effective; however, the hard part is that this is an overall rate for a specific IP. So if you have a business with 20 users behind their router,

RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
MT is the ideal access point. New smartbridges sux, I have seen so many people say that they have had issues with them. Passing the username/password, such as a PPPOE session is no problem. It can terminte right at the access point with a MT. Using radius is no issue either. -Original

RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Or you can hotspot EVERY access point! Mac authencation is no issue. Or you can do the PPPoE thing too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
StarOS would handle this easily. I tried Mikrotik with a setup like this, and it just didn't work quite right. FWIW, I have a StarOS AP with approx 50 customers on it that has been up for almost a year. Not a single reboot, just works. StarOS will also do hotspot type authentication as

RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Matt, I am curious, I have used staros, and it is a good OS. Don't get me wrong. It does work and it works well. I am wondering what about the MT in the setup did you not like, or like better in star os? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Jason
Gang, What's everyone using to do rate limiting or bandwidth shaping. Bandwidth shaping is something I'm interested in. Are there any linux packages that can do this well? Jason Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: That helps. Thanks! As an fyi here's what I pay for my bw. In

RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT Oh and MT ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help Gang, What's everyone using to do rate limiting

Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Frank Muto
If you have not done it already, putting everyone on your Postini system will decrease your mail server bandwidth substantially. Frank Muto FSM Marketing Group, Inc. Postini Partner Reseller http://wispa.spam-virus.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509)

Re: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
If you want radius on the AP, go get Tranzeo 6000 series radios. I only have a couple of them lit, but so far so good. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:29 AM

[WISPA] salary

2006-12-14 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;) What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue... Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help

2006-12-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We don't put everyone on Postini. We charge those that want the filtering $1 per month. Like John and Forbes, it's cost is too high to just include automatically. Instead, we make money on spam. I'd say around half of our customers and almost all hosted domains take Postini. We're

RE: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-14 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Salary? I think I remember that word...CRS you know. Equals leftovers, right Tim? Rock soup again :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I just take what I need home. It doesn't amount to much but the company pays all gas, cell phone, auto repair, computer etc. bills. So the number isn't really fair. We billed an insurance company for some work that I did after a storm, we negotiated a $4000 per month rate for me as a

Re: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Hi Dennis, In my deployment, Mikrotik would not handle the radius authentication by MAC address like StarOS does. I also like to use the Orinoco cards for my access points, and Mikrotik does not have a driver for those cards - whereas StarOS has an excellent driver. I wanted to try out

RE: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-14 Thread Rick Smith
I've been going through a bunch of sale / merger / buyout / funding meetings lately, and that's about the salary they've all agreed on for an owner of a wisp at around 500 users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent:

RE: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Possibly if your arpu is $40, if arpu is around $150, compensation should be about $100k year or so. That's my experience Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-14 Thread Larry Yunker
IF your company is making money, the salary that you pay the CEO (assuming that you ARE the CEO) is really highly dependent on tax liability. If you have your company set up as a pass-through tax entity such as a LLC, S Corporation, or god forbid a plain-jane partnership, then you are getting

Re: [WISPA] Grrrr... pigtails

2006-12-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
T urns out our low loss u.fl to n-female pigtails with the thicker coax in the cold will revert shape and pull themselves off the cramped SR9 / WAR board combination. Excellent detail to bring up. Sounds like a fastener/tiedown problem to me. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet-

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of loan? The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber. Tom DeReggi