RE: [WISPA] salary WARNING: DON'T DO IT! THREAD ENDED

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Harnish
OK, I KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. DON'T GO THERE GUYS. START A NEW SALARY THREAD IF YOU WANT. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS ONE. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] ot, private chat

2006-12-19 Thread Pete Davis
http://hamachi.cc has a an application with a private chat. That is a side feature in their product. The main app is a P2P VPN application that works actually very well. Everyone in your Hamachi group (up to 16 nodes in free version, 254 in the $40/yr version) can share files/printers and chat

RE: [WISPA] ot, private chat

2006-12-19 Thread Eric Rogers
Why not use Trillian and Encrypt your sessions. It will send through AOL or MSN Messenger but it sends it from client-to-client encrypted. Eric From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Mon 12/18/2006 6:52 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Email a Critical Service? was: A wisp who went a little too far.......

2006-12-19 Thread Pete Davis
Okay, lets say that the pay-per-email program costs $0.02 to send a message. $0.01 goes to the domain registration owner of the receiving domain, and $0.01 goes to the recipient. That 100,000,000 Spam messages that my Barracuda blocked would be worth $1M, if I had let them go through in that

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-19 Thread Travis Johnson
Peter, Everyone in an S Corp has to get the same benefits - so if you take health care, so does every employee is incorrect. We have consulted with our accountant and our attorney on this exact matter. We have about 30% of our employees with health insurance and 70% without. Travis

Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Matt Liotta
I fully agree with Peter. -Matt Peter R. wrote: Tom, My limited exposure has a different perspective: It is easier to keep building out instead of selling deep. A prospect comes to the WISP with a $400 per month pipe and the WISP builds to him. There is the hope (and the hype) that this

Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Joe Laura
I agree with Peter as well. That being said with the lower cost of gear today its much cheaper to build out for a select few without loosing money. Then you have another area to sell deep in. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-19 Thread Matt Liotta
Travis Johnson wrote: Everyone in an S Corp has to get the same benefits - so if you take health care, so does every employee is incorrect. We have consulted with our accountant and our attorney on this exact matter. We have about 30% of our employees with health insurance and 70% without. I

[WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Harnish
It looks as though the confidentiality of Form 477 information is being challenged in court. Anyone with further insight that has comments, they are appreciated. Our office received this document via email today. PUBLIC NOTICE Federal Communications Commission 445 12th St., S.W.

[WISPA] relaynetworksinc

2006-12-19 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
http://www.relaynetworksinc.com/ Anyone done business or heard of them? They just called me looking for any wireless gear I want to sell or buy used. The guy was nice and I told him what I had and wanted. He's suppose to get back with me when he finds a buyer. I don't know how much the

Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Peter R.
The key, though, is to sell deep. Fill those AP's. Happy Holidays! Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. Joe Laura wrote: I agree with Peter as well. That being said with the lower cost of gear today its much cheaper to build out for a select few without loosing money. Then you have another area to

RE: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Smith
as long as you OFFER it to them on a poster somewhere in the building. At least, that's what NJ says... that way it's opt in and there's no discrimination -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-19 Thread George Rogato
Rick Smith wrote: as long as you OFFER it to them on a poster somewhere in the building. At least, that's what NJ says... that way it's opt in and there's no discrimination We are a C corp. Med plans, if offered, has to be available to all employees. One of the benefits is the medical

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-19 Thread Peter R.
Matt Liotta wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: Everyone in an S Corp has to get the same benefits - so if you take health care, so does every employee is incorrect. We have consulted with our accountant and our attorney on this exact matter. We have about 30% of our employees with health

Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
I also agree with Peter. Life would have been much easier for me along the way, if I executed that advise sooner. However, now I have more pipes to fills, and can still follow that advice on a larger scale. Now I can serve 90% of the leads that come in with little new cost, apposed to 10% of

Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court

2006-12-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm glad this is being taken to court. One of the reasons many WISPs don't file still (even though legally required to), is because they are afraid that the information will be shared with someone that will result in a negative effect, whether its the tax collector or competitors. Proving that

[WISPA] Building WARboard radios

2006-12-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
On average, how long does it take, to build a WAR/rootenna radio system, start to finish. Or I should say, how much time should the manager allocate for the process to be complete by their techs. Lets define some common variables Say the tech is building 5 at a time, of the same

RE: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Charles Wu
The problem with the philosophy of building out is that you never make any money... Don't just take orders -- learn to actually sell -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From:

RE: [WISPA] ot, private chat

2006-12-19 Thread Mike Delp
Marlon, We use Wildfire and Spark is the client. It is a jabber server that has encryption built in. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:53 PM To: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] salary

2006-12-19 Thread Frank Muto
Thought I would throw this out about the GAO's report on company formations. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06376.pdf This may or not be relevant to the topic at hand, but may be parallel information to be aware of. Cliff note summary from the report. Why the study: Companies form the basis

RE: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court

2006-12-19 Thread Mac Dearman
I hate to say it, but if the info contained in the Form 477 is not held in confidence - like it is supposed to be, then I am going to sound like so many others by saying that our Government can not be trusted. I will choose to refrain from any further comments other than to say I hope that our

RE: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court

2006-12-19 Thread Forbes Mercy
I remember once when a big corporation, to remain nameless, offered to buy me for a nice chunk of change then after we signed the NDA and they looked at my numbers they never called me or returned our calls again. Mind you are the largest ISP in my town so it wasn't for lack of numbers. They

Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Dylan Oliver
Hi Charles, Any tips on learning to sell? What's helped you the most? On 12/19/06, Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with the philosophy of building out is that you never make any money... Don't just take orders -- learn to actually sell -Charles -- Dylan Oliver

Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-19 Thread Chad Halsted
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[WISPA] Want a portable tower ?

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Smith
I've got two of these, exactly the same. They're really stable. I've never measured them, but they say they go about 20' into the air. I am 6' and this one's about 2x over my head. I'd say around 15' or so, and there's still a lot to crank up on it. Got bored the other day, so I raised some

Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court

2006-12-19 Thread Peter R.
The Center for Public Integrity is suing under FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) for access to the 477's because they do not believe that the broadband data that the FCC reports is true and they want to add that raw data to their media report at http://www.publicintegrity.org/telecom.

Re: [WISPA] Want a portable tower ?

2006-12-19 Thread Dylan Oliver
Pictures don't pass to the list so please post a link or give the model number. On 12/19/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got two of these, exactly the same. They're really stable. I've never measured them, but they say they go about 20' into the air. I am 6' and this one's

Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Peter R.
My best tip: Go to Amazon.com or BN.com and search for Jeffrey Gitomer Pick either the Sales Bible, the Little Red Book of Sales Answers, or his DVD, How to Not Suck at Sales. Best sales trainer in the business. Another book would be Idiot's Guide to Cold Calling by Keith Rosen (not all

Re: [WISPA] building out

2006-12-19 Thread Peter R.
Dylan Oliver wrote: Hi Charles, Any tips on learning to sell? What's helped you the most? Profile your best clients. Pick out who you want your clients to be. Research them. Be in front of them. Sell them. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

RE: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court

2006-12-19 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
The boss got one toady too. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

RE: [WISPA] Building WARboard radios

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Smith
I figure about 15 minutes for an RB112 / mikrotik / SR5 and SR2 cards w/cables, exterior cables, and antenna hookup / testing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:52 PM To: WISPA General List

[WISPA] Strange network issues crosspost

2006-12-19 Thread Chadd Thompson
Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't sure if everyone is on both lists. I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands, Trango, MT, Brilan, they are on different

RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-19 Thread Marty Dougherty
Easy way to remember the color code is (this is really old days) Bell- Blue Operators-Orange Give-Green Bad- Brown Service- Slate While- White Running- Red Backwards- Black You- Yellow Vomit- Violet If you can remember that you can break down any cable- even the big ones with thousands of

[WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has Been Sought

2006-12-19 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Anyone else get this? _ From: FCC 477 Contact [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:46 AM To: FCC 477 Contact Subject: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has Been Sought The attached Public Notice is being sent to you because you were the

RE: [WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has Been Sought

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Smith
nope :) Guess why. Right. No one's getting my info from that data. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: Notice That Public

[WISPA] Fw: Happy Holidays from Redline Communications

2006-12-19 Thread W.D.McKinney
It's really to bad that good companies in the wireless business bow to a few that seem to think we don't know why it's a season to celebrate? Let me say wholeheartedly and unabashedly Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to everyone. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183

Re: [WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has Been Sought

2006-12-19 Thread Bob Moldashel
No Comment.. :-) It was just a matter of time -B- Rick Smith wrote: nope :) Guess why. Right. No one's getting my info from that data. -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues crosspost

2006-12-19 Thread Todd Barber
Chadd, We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged. The root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were using as are primary BHs. Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the ARP table gets corrupted. Trango does

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Happy Holidays from Redline Communications

2006-12-19 Thread Bob Moldashel
W.D.McKinney wrote: It's really to bad that good companies in the wireless business bow to a few that seem to think we don't know why it's a season to celebrate? Let me say wholeheartedly and unabashedly Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to everyone. Cheers, -Dee Alaska Wireless

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues crosspost

2006-12-19 Thread Chadd Thompson
Sounds like this could be it. The backhauls are Trango link 10's do you happen to remember what the ARP limit was that you were having problems with? Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd Barber Sent: Tuesday, December 19,

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues crosspost

2006-12-19 Thread Mac Dearman
telnet: arp -bcast off Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Barber Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues crosspost Chadd, We experienced similar issues

Re: [WISPA] ot, private chat

2006-12-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I don't know what jabba is. - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot, private chat How about a Jabber server? On 12/18/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] ot, private chat

2006-12-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Ahhh, thanks. I'm NOT looking for anything like that. The last thing in the world that I'd want to do to my customers is route their traffic through anyone that we don't know. marlon - Original Message - From: Pete Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

[WISPA] training

2006-12-19 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Does anyone have a simple wireless installation training manual already put together? We are finally to the point we need to have something for the new hires, but I want to see if anyone has something they want to share? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-19 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I remember that from school Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dougherty Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Confidentiality Challenged in Court

2006-12-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'll be surprised if the info is released. The data is all available already. Just nothing specific to a company. And specific company data won't do anyone any real good. This has been going on for several months now if it's the same case. laters, marlon - Original Message -

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues crosspost

2006-12-19 Thread Chadd Thompson
Mac, Is this a trango command? I don't remember there being an arp command in the link10's Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:09 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:

RE: [WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has BeenSought

2006-12-19 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
K answered my question! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has BeenSought

RE: [WISPA] Fw: Happy Holidays from Redline Communications

2006-12-19 Thread Brad Belton
Wholly agree that there are many other religions than Christianity and fortunately here in the great 'ol USA we have many freedoms including freedom of religion. However, without dispute the reason for the season is Christmas. The world stops during these times for no other reason than

Re: [WISPA] training

2006-12-19 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Travis Johnson wrote: Does anyone have a simple wireless installation training manual already put together? We are finally to the point we need to have something for the new hires, but I want to see if anyone has something they want to share? As you may know, I am

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues crosspost

2006-12-19 Thread Todd Barber
Mac, We tried that but it didn't totally resolve the issue. Chadd, I would guess it was around 100. Todd Barber Skylink Broadband Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970-454-9499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [WISPA] training

2006-12-19 Thread W.D.McKinney
I really would like to see a simple wireless installation training manual. The local folks wnat $7K to produce one :-( -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL