[WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian

2006-12-26 Thread Mark McElvy
Anyone out there that can help me set this up? I am a Windows guy and have successfully installed Linux several times but have not figured out how to install FreeRadius successfully. If I had the time I might be able to do it but I thought it might go faster with a little expertise. Mark

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2006-12-26 Thread mikec
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Re: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian

2006-12-26 Thread David E. Smith
Mark McElvy wrote: Anyone out there that can help me set this up? I am a Windows guy and have successfully installed Linux several times but have not figured out how to install FreeRadius successfully. If I had the time I might be able to do it but I thought it might go faster with a little

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Got that part. I still didn't see in there anywhere, in plain English that a neophyte like me can understand, is this a polling or csmak product? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Grin Keep your coax tools to yourself sir! As for the pipe, I've used both the equinox and pac wireless. Pac has a much stronger product, hands down. Unless the other guys finally caught up. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Mark, 48vdc is the poe ieee standard. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
I'd never call you a neophyte, Marlon. A jolly elf maybe, neophyte never... CSMA/CA. But the MAC has been substantially altered, especially with 4.0 and the WLP (wireless link prioritization) feature where all stations can be made to wait while those stations with spooled up voice can release

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
They're about the same. Pac does have the extra-heavy and extra long version, and I don't know if Equinox matches that one or not. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Got it. Thanks. I guess my beef comes from being a wifi based wisp. I find it too difficult to reject interference with a csma based product. Anything with a wait for clear air, then transmit MAC is GREAT for collocation. But sucks when there are products around that don't follow that

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
This is my point Marlon, your beef is based on erroneous assumptions because you are still are talking like it is a basic wifi radio. It is not. Have you not read any of the posts about how the CSAM is able to be modified or adjustable? As I have said and I'll try to say it again, you can adjust

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
My thoughts exactly. If the VL had a mechanism to tune out noise and a few other tools (dual pol - dual band) that would enable the user avoid noise then it is possible there simply would not be a better PtMP LE product available today. Without those critical elements the VL is just not able

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -

[WISPA] Ruckus Units...

2006-12-26 Thread Rick Smith
Did someone say they were a ruckus dealer ? I'd like to get a unit to test in a specific coverage area. R -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
I don't think Marlon is asserting the VL is simply another wifi radio (even though it does use a wifi Atheros chip with CSAM), but more so that the VL offers no method for a user to avoid or overcome noise. Simply lowering modulation, slowing down and retransmitting over and over until the packet

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
I don't think Marlon is asserting the VL is simply another wifi radio (even though it does use a wifi Atheros chip with CSAM), but more so that the VL offers no method for a user to avoid or overcome noise. Simply lowering modulation, slowing down and retransmitting over and over until the packet

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I have two things in place right now. MRTG type data coming right off of the routers. http://64.146.186.1:81/graphs/iface/eth1-upstream/ http://64.146.146.1:81/graphs/iface/eth1%2Duplink/ And, I have a cool bit tracking program that uses the netflow data generated by my routers.

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Sorry for the double post...compoooter issues today I guess! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Are you paying extra for bursting, or just the overall bandwidth used? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Thanks! To you and your's too! Yeah, I'm working on it. Right now we're in talks with the heavy users to see what amounts won't run them off but will make up the difference between the 4 gig included model and what they are really consuming. I'm sure we'll run some off. But the goal

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Thanks Jeff, We're looking at those models right now. The one that's already in place is 60 gigs for $350. Looks like 10 gigs will go to $100. And something similar in the middle. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)

[WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
...features that make VL NOT a basic CSMA/CA product. - Configurable Minimum and Maximum Contention Windows: The BreezeACCESS VL system uses a special mechanism based on detecting the presence of a carrier signal and analyzing the information contained in the transmissions of the AU to estimate

RE: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian

2006-12-26 Thread Mac Dearman
I will GUARANTEE Jeremy Davis can have you up and running in just a few minutes! Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] FreeRadius on

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I know that they (and Butch) claimed it was No...I think you are confusing me with someone else. :-) I have told MANY people that proxy service on MT is riddled with problems, not the least of which is speed. One of the first

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
LOL, Yeah, I read that Patrick. Guess I'll have to see it to actually understand it fully. I think of it more like talking in a crowded room. The background noise makes it hard to talk. We can make up for that in several ways. One, what we usually do today, everyone keeps their voices

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Do you have the option of changing to a service where you pay a certain amount per month for a certain amount of bandwidth, and then have the capability to burst beyond that for an additional price? In that model, QoS becomes critical and you can limit your customers based upon their rate-class

RE: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian

2006-12-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
I second that. Jeremy Rocks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian I will GUARANTEE Jeremy Davis can have you up and

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Patrick, With all due respect I don't think anyone here doubts the Alvarion VL is not simply a plain vanilla CSMA product. However, unfortunately the end result is the same when deployed in a RF hostile environment. All the items you list below while impressive are of little use in RF

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
It's designed to burst. That gives us a relatively low monthly cost with really fast service. So we pay based on usage. But it can, and does, burst very high. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting

Re: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:20 AM Subject: [WISPA] once again, several of the key... ...features that make VL NOT a basic CSMA/CA product. - Configurable Minimum and Maximum

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I know that they (and Butch) claimed it was

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps Do you have the option of changing to a service where you pay a certain amount per month for a certain

Re: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Hopefully you understand all of those:) Part of Marlon's issue with the basic 802.11 system is talked about below, but of course, since it's there, the tuneability helps, but does not resolve the issue. I beleive Marlon's reference to CSMA / CA is two pronged. While it's true that recieved

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick
You could route your high traffic folks out the one connection, and ratchet their committed rate down to protect your peak usage periods. They could burst when bandwidth was available without hurting you. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian

2006-12-26 Thread Mark McElvy
How does one get in touch with Jeremy Davis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian I will GUARANTEE Jeremy Davis can have

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
mks: And what happens when we have someone light up a Wmux type system that's ALWAYS on? The time value won't make a difference since there will NEVER be totally clear air. PL: Marlon, The available values are 0, 7, 15, 31, 63, 127, 255, 511 and 1023. A value of 0 means that the contention

RE: [WISPA]( FreeRadius) Jeremy Davis info

2006-12-26 Thread Mac Dearman
Jeremy Davis @ (614)347-6229 or by e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian How does one

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Mark, yes that is true with basic CSMA/CA, but VL, again, allows adjustments of parameters to prevent what you fear. For example, the ack time is first based on the Max Cell Distance setting you set, so the radio knows to expect, so to speak, an ack from each station within a very specific time

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Mark, ...also, in terms of your question about packet aggregation, BreezeACCESS VL employs very aggressive concatenation. That is why it delivers over 40,000 packets per second performance of small packets (such as 64k frames). The radio also allows setting the Maximum Concatenated Frame Size, as

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
I should also note our support of jumbo packets of 1600 bytes + 4 bytes of CRC. If VLAN is used the length is the same 1600 + 4 bytes. This applies to version 4.0.23 or higher. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Marlon, I also just realized you asked what the Lost Beacon Threshold setting is about. In standard CSMA/CA radios, the APs will reset if their beacons are not received within a certain window, which can cause havoc on the network. This can happen in high interference environments. With

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Remember VLs will be shipping with support for optional manual horizontal Pol mounting, sometime early 2007 (Jan?). Not going to be a problem getting 6 VLs on a tower anymore, before even considering the 10Mhz channel option. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless

Re: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
OK, so when we set the value to 0, how does the ap decide who it's going to listen to and when it'll talk? Is this the same as turning the radio into a polling mechanism? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
This is a bit misleading and doesn't answer Marlon's question. Entering a 0 value in the VL contention window algorithm setting will indeed turn off the VL contention mechanism, but it will do little for the client behind the VL radio trying to pass data. Glossy advertisement buzz words like

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
grin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] once again, several of the key... OK, so when we set the value to 0, how does the

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Give the VL dual polarity via software control and you might have something worth taking note about. Throw in dual band ability and now you're on the right track. As it sits now Alvarion is requiring you to visit every site you have a VL radio and rotate it 90* in the event you need to do so.

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
marlon, I have to disagree, and state the opposite. I've always been a fan of TDD, especially when combined with DSSS to be able to survive the noise, with better SNRs. The problem occurs when DSSS is not enough to get above the noise. When the noise is other OFDM or Wifi contention gear,

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
The Alvarion VL is great for bursty, best effort requirements where 90% of the user applications can wait for that clear air within the noise floor, but not for committed rate business class service. Agreed. But what about when you are in an environment that TDD won't work well? Sometimes the

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Wrong answer, It should be the other way around. Because we

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
So contention window algorithm is a glossy advertisement buzz word? Yeah, I'm sure thems some hot and sexy buzzwords there. Looks to me like that's about as dry and technically desciptive -- i.e. the ANTITHESIS of hype -- as well could do. Brad, if that's a BS glossy buzz word, then exactly WHAT,

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Almost as fun as predicting what product or policy Trango will discontinue or otherwise dramatically change next! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List'

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
...okay, I went off the deep end there. It was wrong of me to insult the competition because I'm allowing myself to be baited. Sorry folks. Sorry Trango. Ghrr. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, December

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Jon Langeler
Marlon, if that's the type of product your looking for, I'll save you the hassle of looking (and you can come back to this post in 5-10 years to make your conclusions on my recommendation) because your best best is to go with canopy or wait until a 5GHz 802.16e solution comes out(not likely

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
oh oh. This one's gonna be fun. I'll warn ya now Tom, this is nothing personal. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Larson
Jon, LOL. Our engineers don't watch these threads and they probably never will and I wouldn't want them to. It's funny that this thread was started by a very happy Alvarion customer whom just broke the 1,000 cpe threshold with VL and he's doing the very things that aren't supposed to be possible

RE: [WISPA] once again, several of the key...

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
lol...rather than trying to change the subject Patrick, why not answer Marlon's question? Here it is to refresh your memory. Try to stay on topic. mks: And what happens when we have someone light up a Wmux type system that's ALWAYS on? The time value won't make a difference since there will

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Well, they didn't give Mel Gibson the benefit of the doubt. Why should we you? grin Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
lolyou continue to assert this is about Trango vs. Alvarion and it is far from it. You appear threatened by Trango with comments like this. I've said from day one we are results driven. If Trango produces the results we are after then by golly we'll use Trango. If Alvarion produces the

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Tom, Alvarion's strength is it empowers an operator to engineer a more durable link, based on antenna quality and flexibility. Antenna quality I'll give you. Alvarion uses MTi antennas which by most all accounts builds a quality product. Flexibility? Not a chance. No Dual Polarity +

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Mike Ireton
I just wanted to weigh in here and add that filesharing and p2p is really a main driver of the isp business model today and we're going to have to do something to pull this in and make it equitable for everyone. If you think about this, what we're all doing here is paying for expensive

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
If we are in an environment where ANY particular solution will not produce the results we are after then we look at other products. We will not tie our hands to one brand. No reason to. Our business model is different than the next and so on and so on. Yes, CIR is what we sell not MIR. That

[WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Sigh. Jon, I'm really not sure why you beat that drum when examples exist all around that show it is not true. In fact, no tier 1 or 2 operator that deploys in the 5GHz unlicensed bands (i.e. operators that tend to do lengthy trials, comparisons) that I know of has fallen for that argument either,

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Rich Comroe
Products that are best effort [snip product name] end up making guys like us look bad. I'm confused how can anyone do better than best effort in unlicensed spectrum, regardless of manufacturer? There is nothing worse than installing one day at 6Mbps and the next day getting a call saying they

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Marlon / et al wisp ceo's, yes. your raw cost per mb is going to skyrocket once your users start watching iptv over your trunkline. I'm going to be posting compression and streaming solutions at http://iptv-coverage.com too. so please use my new site to archive your own findings as well. that

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Products that are best effort [snip product name] end up making guys like us look bad.

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Correct. Any medium used to deliver broadband can be broken. However, frankly due to the fewer points of failure we typically see less downtime on unlicensed wireless links than we do conventional LEC T1 circuits. Like many things it all comes down to the geographic area. Would you expect a

RE: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
I think we largely agree mostly here Jon. With respect to our 900 and legacy 2.4 hopping stuff a greater skill set may be required. With the VL line this is not the case -- VL and Canopy should be very similar in CPE install time unless you add the Canopy reflector, which should make an install a

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Jon Langeler
Let's use 900MHz as an example. We deployed Alvarion 900 on multiple sites for over a year and it was a less than enjoyable experience. We started by transitioning one site from Alvarion 900 to Canopy 900 and things started working much better. I may use licensed operations as an example only

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Not sure how your Alvarion 900 was configured, but our you are aware that our 900 and 2.4 have both supported GPS sync since day one right Eight years before Canopy even launched)? Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Yeah, I know you took it off for me. As I recall the conversation you said that we could do some testing that would show that it really did speed things up. But it also caused a delay when the page was starting to load and that

RE: [WISPA] FreeRadius on Debian

2006-12-26 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, Mark McElvy wrote: How does one get in touch with Jeremy Davis it used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED], but not sure that is still good. I've copied him on this email. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik

RE: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-26 Thread Marty Dougherty
Gents: Funny watching all of this go back and forth- I think since it started we have installed another 10-12 VL's for our customers. I really don't know how you guys find the time to keep up with this. You all can argue the merits of the technical abilities of the different products but what

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Yeah, I know you took it off for me. As I

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread John Scrivner
The Alvarion VL is great for bursty, best effort requirements where 90% of the user applications can wait for that clear air within the noise floor, but not for committed rate business class service. Best, Brad Brad, I see your almost continuous negative posts about VL and cannot help

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: FYI, that is NOT how things worked with my Cobalt CacheRAQ. It was amazing how quickly things snapped up on the page with it vs. without it. Too bad it was an older unit and I could only use it by changing the gateway addresses. And it had heat related lockup

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Back in the olden days of dialup, I used to get fantastic results from our caching server. It was just a PIII machine with a whopping 640meg of memory, but it did a good job. Page views were noticeably faster when things were setup correctly. When I was in a backbone pinch, I used a caching

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-26 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Unfortunately, caching servers break a lot of sites' content unintentionally. That is, they have to request a page from the requested site as if it were the exact same configuration (same browser, same OS, same plug-ins, etc., as the requestor) and then relay it to the requesting subscriber as if