RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Mac Dearman
Patrick, You are a better man than I am - no doubt! You have answered seven thousand questions, retorted seven thousand fallacies and straightened out another seven thousand myths. I have been a consultant for Trango for the last two years and I do know every in and every out of Trango gear. I

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Mac Dearman
These folks didn't know sheet from shinola, but they had a nice WISP and all they could say was Alvarion. They never bothered to further themselves education wise, but called on Trango to buy more gear when they had another client. When I tell you they couldn't spell PC - - they didn't have

RE: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-27 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Well said! I wanted add my two cents. I have no dog in this fight, but I hope everyone realizes just how blest this industry and the WISPA organization is to have Patrick and Alvarion actively involved here. Its not a perfect comparison, but it is like having Juniper Networks or perhaps even

[WISPA] It's not Friday but...

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Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread David E. Smith
Jonathan Schmidt wrote: Also, they add significant latency to ordinary traffic (the requested URLs have to be obtained in their entirety first then relayed) and you can't have more than a thousand up to several thousand simultaneous users...maybe not a problem... you can get around that with

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread David E. Smith
George Rogato wrote: You know Akamai is also an option. As I recall they require you to have x number of subs and then send you their boxes to be set up on your network. All free. Any idea on how many subs you need before this becomes an option? I've heard that Akamai will do this, and I

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We've had one for almost 5 years now... but there isn't anything to play with. They ship you three 1u servers and a Cisco switch. You plug everything in and turn it on. They do all the admin, config, setup, etc. and don't allow you access whatsoever. But it does work great. Microsoft

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Brad Belton
My statement below is simply a fact regarding committed rate business class service. If Alvarion Support could have made it work then the gear would still be up and the client would still be using it. How many times have I said Alvarion makes a quality product? How many times have I said I'd

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Brad Larson
Jon, Sigh...Sync in wimax is the preferred method for small channel deployments to ensure QOS and protecting a scheduled mac that has not been optimized for interference rejection. I would also conclude that mobility and denser cell sites for voip and indoor installs are quite different than most

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Hi, and Happy New Year, all, before I forget The Akamai caches content that folks pay them to put on it which includes stuff like Microsoft updates, Real Player updates and downloads, anti-virus vendor downloads, etc. It's really great since the latency vanishes and I note here that I

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Matt Liotta
You don't need to host Akamai boxes and/or rely solely on Akamai's customers content for an improvement in experience and a decrease in transit cost. IMHO, the easier way is to simply peer with the various CDNs. If you peer with Akamai, LimeLight, Google, Yahoo, etc you won't pay for transit

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
Love the post. Thanks. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:03 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Rich Comroe
There's no unlicensed product which guarantees business class services in interference. To suggest product A does and product B doesn't is nonsense. I think you've done a good job of describing why you think some products do a better job of than others. That's fair. Sharing experiences

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread John Scrivner
Brad, I just am getting a bit gun shy now when I see you post a complaint about no polarity this - no dual band that - or whatever your beef of the day is with VL. When you do it we inevitably get to see Patrick or Brad Larson go into defense mode which gets tiresome also. It is like some

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
True, Matt, often a better way. Now, what to do with P2P abusers? . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

[WISPA] Broadscale Interference?

2006-12-27 Thread Rick Harnish
We are located in Indiana and we are seeing quite a bit of noise interference the last couple of days. We are seeing this on towers up to 50 miles apart from each other. It seems pretty widespread. Is anyone else experiencing these issues? I would like to get an idea if others are experiencing

RE: [WISPA] Broadscale Interference?

2006-12-27 Thread Brian Webster
Rick, Have you been seeing temperature swings from day to day that are out of the norm? Here is NY we have some 45-50 degree days then the next day it's back the typical 20's and 30's. I've been noticing some temperature inversions around here and because of that propagation has been

RE: [WISPA] Broadscale Interference?

2006-12-27 Thread Rick Harnish
Brian, Temp has been pretty constant 28-40 degrees the last few days, had some 60 degree weather last week. I suppose there could be some heat in the ground that is rising. I've seen a lot worse temperature changes than this before but I'm not saying that couldn't be an issue. It does seem to

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Rick Harnish
My sentiments exactly, I was about to type something very similar but have had a busy morning and hadn't gotten to it yet. I try to steer clear of lists that allow this behavior to continue. As moderator of this list, I should have cracked down on this quicker than this. I appreciate your

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks for the good post and advice Mac. I hope you are enjoying an excellent Cajun Christmas. I should tell you, our regional engineer, Keith, is a Lu'siana boy. So much so he is now moving back home though he was only in neighboring Texas. Patrick

RE: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks for the defense and the kind words Jeff! Do know though that any lumps and criticism I take on these lists are generally earned by me and I've no one to blame but the mirror. Also, while for me it is and always has been broadband first, wireless second, and Alvarion third, I certainly

RE: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks Marty. You'd think after eight years of this I'd long ago learned to shut up and let guys like you do all the talking. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Dougherty Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:10 PM To: 'WISPA

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
Mac, Mac, I was reminded that you had a question at the end...here is my answer, with the real meat, the blunt talk, towards the end. The AUs are not actually the same as the CPE. I understand there are some hardware differences. That said, the real reason AUs cost more than CPE has nothing to

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Rich Comroe
We typically make customer contact when a customer shows up as a regular on our 1Gbyte Honor Roll (a daily list of everyone with = 1Gbyte in or out in the past 24 hrs). Often we find they are infected, but sometimes P2Pers. We crank down their CIR if they don't clean up until they are off

Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Matt Liotta
Jonathan Schmidt wrote: True, Matt, often a better way. Now, what to do with P2P abusers? Sell them more bandwidth? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Wow, Matt, you're well equipped with the good ideas. In fact, we make a targeted messaging product that inserts a toolbar-like, unobtrusive message into subscriber browsers display. TVCABO bought it to deploy all over Portugal...primarily to upsell their subscribers nearing their byte cap limit.

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Rich, Exactly my point and exactly why users operating in the unlicensed spectrum need as many tools available at their disposal as possible. My criticism and suggestions have been to illuminate just those features as extremely valuable to guys like me that sell CIR not MIR. Frankly the

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
John, will this code say any thing I want it to, like pay up or else If you sell it, any deals for members? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List'

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-27 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Chuck, maybe that's ...sort of...well, the American spirit. I'd rather anything than a rope around me. I pay $6/mo., or more, to my VoIP provider so that I have no limit on calls (to Europe or Asia!) rather than have to pay a couple cents a minute over 500 minutes a month. OK, so $22 vs. $16