Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
That router, sitting about 12 inches from my monitor, is one of the most failure prone, troublesome, annoying and horribly underperforming piles of JUNK I have ever laid eyes upon. Yeah, my HOUSE is not on my own wireless network... And at the end of a day with that router locking up more than a

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread George Rogato
Well I wish some Qwest customers would be as angry as you are and call me.. Ah, maybe not, I don't want angry customers! :) Mark Koskenmaki wrote: That router, sitting about 12 inches from my monitor, is one of the most failure prone, troublesome, annoying and horribly underperforming piles

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:51 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients... Right guys, I accept all that may be true but even in the DSL world, customers

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Patrick Leary
When a market knows it must contend with fraudulent product AND that a good percentage of that market will support the fraud, what's the decision you think vendors will make when it comes to prioritizing investments in this business? Licensed or unlicensed? WISPs or a market segment that buys only

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Patrick, Pardon my ignorance...I'm not an RF guy...but what do you mean by the problem of the .16 MAC in UL bands? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:42 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-29 Thread Carl A jeptha
lets look at the VHF system, which radio would you buy?? Or is it which proprietary system would you deploy? Or is it where can I lease/rent/buy crystals to put in my radio? Black and white, I am the customer beholden unto to my supplier, long may they live. You have a

Re: [WISPA] Jon, okay, I'm no engineer. But what about the BUSINESS?

2006-12-29 Thread Carl A jeptha
When we made those decisions in 1999 we did not find Alvarion or Motorola. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Patrick Leary wrote: Respectfully Carl and while I generally agree on use of

[WISPA] latest ATT filing

2006-12-29 Thread Matt Liotta
http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Mac Dearman
Ryan, YES YES! I personally run about 30 MikroTik APs (Proxim, Trango and a few Tranzeo's) and have been using Tranzeo CPE's exclusively for the last few years. It works great. I also know that Matt Larsen uses Tranzeo CPE exclusively (for years) and he is a 100% dyed in the wool StarOS

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Smith
Patrick, what exactly is this illegal hardware you're referring to ? Can't be tranzeo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or

RE: [WISPA] STar-OS and 900 mhz

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Smith
Interesting thing is Mikrotik is seeing the same problem on 3.0beta4. They say it'll be corrected when beta 5 is released. No date on t that yet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:53

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Patrick, I do not challenge Alvarion's top role in Licensed WiMax. I recognize it, as does most of the world. But the truth is... Some companies have publically announced that they plan to deliver a 5.8Ghz unlicensed product (as their primary focus), and others have announced that they are

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes, but All I want is a better radio. The Dream is... Wimax is interoperabilty certified to a standard. The Reality is... Who can get me a better radio sooner. (See previous Post) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From:

[WISPA] att condition - broadband

2006-12-29 Thread Peter R.
By December 31, 2007, ATT/BellSouth will offer broadband Internet access service (i.e., Internet access service at speeds in excess of 200 kbps in at least one direction) to 100 percent of the residential living units in the ATTBellSouth in-region territory. 2 To meet this commitment,

RE: [WISPA] att condition - broadband

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Smith
keyword...offer... buzzword...Wi-max... aka fluff... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] att condition - broadband By December 31, 2007,

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Lonnie, Patrick has a valid point. Truthfully, its getting close to that time that there isn't a reason not to get certified. The 533 Gateworks boards, atheros chipset cards, are getting to be pretty standard products, with consistent availabilty, that meet just about any need. Thats much

Re: [WISPA] att condition - broadband

2006-12-29 Thread Frank Muto
And there is no enforceable action that may or not take place if these voluntary commitments are not met, i.e., penalties and or fines after the merger is completed. Same smoke and mirrors BS from past mergers. Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA

Re: [WISPA] att condition - broadband

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Which basically means WISPS have no choice but to protest and fight the merger. ATT/BellSouth Basic declared war on all competition with that statement. I was OK with it, when they had the option to leave less desirable business to third parties. But obligating themselves to have all

Re: [WISPA] att condition - broadband

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
I think WISPs should propose that ATT/BellSouth be allowed to merge only if they agree NOT to deploy wireless and NOT to rural areas :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General

RE: [WISPA] att condition - broadband

2006-12-29 Thread Brian Webster
But with that bit of verbal fluff, they can already do that. They can offer DSL, if they enable all of their switches. With very little investment they can put DSLAMs a little farther out if need be. Of course they can offer Satellite, always have been able to. I would be further curious to see if

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread John Scrivner
I think Patrick needs to build Lonnie a box. Star OS software / Alvarion radio. Look out! :-) Scriv Patrick Leary wrote: Lonnie, you are just doing what I wish I were smart enough to do -- write code people are willing to pay for. Software is always better than hardware: you avoid FCC

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Marketing
I figured you would probably use them all before the nuts would arrive... The UM's and UML's needed to be re-tooled due to the fact that after so many parts, tooling needs to be replaced. We went with the stamped bases due to the fact that the overall consistency is better on the parts and are

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Patrick, We sell kits of the required components, no different than many others. Many people have had had our components certified for FCC and CE use since they do a volume business of assembled systems. In order to get FCC and CE approvals you must submit a complete system, as you are well

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Rich Comroe
I worked for a manufacturer that certified product with the FCC. The legality issue for FCC type acceptance can be argued in certain circumstances. Truth is, we didn't re-apply for FCC type acceptance every time we changed a resistor value or made some board change or modified the software.

[WISPA] Fiar use policy

2006-12-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
This looks like it's well written and makes a ton of sense to me. http://go.gethughesnet.com/HUGHES/Rooms/DisplayPages/LayoutInitial?pageid=fairaccessContainer=com.webridge.entity.Entity[OID[BD8BE0839F414B4FB7CDDCA10EFA5369]] Anyone else implementing a program like this? Any suggested

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Ryan Spott
N White wrote, On 12/28/2006 11:30 PM: Nick. Is. A. God. (and has EXCELLENT reading comprehension!) Correction. It's late, I'm tired, and have had too much wine. I meant that the TRCPQ is Atheros based, not TRCPE. This is from a Tranzeo list: The CPE90 is

Re: [WISPA] Fiar use policy

2006-12-29 Thread Ryan Spott
Marlon, This is a VERY well written policy that works well. Since it is automated it also P***ES off subscribers. My father-in-law uses Hughes. He bought an electronic copy of Adobe Photoshop. The version he purchased was a 3CD-ROM set. He got through 1 CD rom and POOF he was on dialup

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread John Scrivner
What about using external antennas? Doesn't that require FCC certification? I agree with everything you have said below with the exception of use of external antennas and amplifiers of course. I thought you needed a FCC system certification for systems made up of a radio and external pigtails,

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
OK, lets be clear on what the rules are today guys. (Why did I know that THIS thread was gonna turn out to be a ton of fun (said the pot to the kettle)) Here's how it works. If you have a AP out there it can have a MAX output of 4 watts. 36dB. That holds true for 900, 2.4 and 5.8 bands.

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread chris cooper
Hire Jack Unger. He was patient enough to beat all the rules into my head eventually. C If you hire a consultant that doesn't at least explain all of this to you, go hire a new consultant. The one you have either doesn't know the rules or he's only in it to take your money. And if he'll take

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Rich Comroe
Well said. You've covered issues in deploying your FCC certified radio product with various pre-approved antennas. Now, when it comes to selling a box with a computer and radio in it, the questions are a bit different. If it's a radio integrated onto a computer board, my belief it that it's

RE: [WISPA] bits per mbps

2006-12-29 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Tom, Our group, when at Nortel, developed a WEB cache product. That was during the days when a typical business had only a 56k digital line to the Internet. It was very tough to do a generalized cache because very few sites had expiration tags on their HTML components. However, a lot more do

Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing

2006-12-29 Thread Matt Liotta
Apparently, the rumor is the deal will be approved by the end of the day today. Seems like there should be some time period for public comment. -Matt Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

[WISPA] speaking of CPE

2006-12-29 Thread W.D.McKinney
I am wondering if anyone has these deployed: http://www.airlink101.com/products/ar504.html We don't prefer Linksys at all. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Interesting comment Within 1 year return all own 2.5Ghz licenses or leases to a third party entity. In otherwords they can sell it to the highest bidder, apposed to donate it to public use. Also promising $10/month DSL. Ouch. Its not easy to enforce mandatory coverage, but it is pretty

Re: [WISPA] Fiar use policy

2006-12-29 Thread Mike Ireton
My $0.0002(US) worth - we need to begin educating our customers and implementing fair access policies to enforce them and then we need to content label our services so that our customers understand what they are getting with each type of service. Peer to Peer on a pc loaded with stolen

[WISPA] Training Contractors

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
I am going to attempt to hire some new CPE installers, as contractors, paid by the job (peice work). (I see market rate around $100-$150 per job -residential). Finding guys that ALREADY know how to do it correctly, is not likely. This brings me to Training. How are you training the

RE: [WISPA] Training Contractors

2006-12-29 Thread chris cooper
Find some satellite TV contractors that want to know more. Ive found them to be pretty skilled and slick at doing quality installs. chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:59 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
Here's a Beware the Fine Print comment... http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/006164.html jack Matt Liotta wrote: http://www.fcc.gov/ATT_FINALMergerCommitments12-28.pdf -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since

Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing

2006-12-29 Thread W.D.McKinney
Hi Jack, We never hooked up to discuss things? I see you are alive and well though. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Hi Ryan, My favorite AP setup for 2.4 is StarOS/Orinoco card/YDI amplifier/YDI 180deg sector antenna - however some of these parts are getting harder to find and/or don't work for a lot of situations. So here is the most common one that I am deploying as of late: StarOS/prism2511/tranzeo

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Mike Ireton
Sounds like I'd want to stay away from YOU for the same reason... Brian Webster wrote: Id' like to stay away from YDI/Proxim just because of their attitude on the phone whenever I have dealt with them. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

[WISPA] capstan

2006-12-29 Thread chris cooper
Im looking for a reese hitch mount 12v capstan. Anybody have any pointers to a good one? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] capstan

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Harnish
Chris, I bought a 120v model this summer. We love it. http://www.myte.com/products_utility.html http://www.myte.com/distributors.asp?State=oh Happy New Years! Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
More comments... http://www.savetheinternet.com/=wu http://gigaom.com/2006/12/29/att-knows-when-to-fold-em/ http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=113531WT.svl=news1_3 http://news.com.com/ATT+offers+more+for+BellSouth+deal+approval/2100-1036_3-6146271.html?tag=nefd.top

RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread JohnnyO
Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're planning on doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the past 2 yrs in Federal Prison as we speak ? Why don't ya'll get a VSAT system that works well for VOIP ? The cost is only about $60/mo more and you have no restrictions

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Mark McElvy
In general what is considered a better combination, lower powered radio w/ higher gain antenna or higher powered radio w/ lower gain antenna? Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 29,

Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing - Done Deal

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
Looks like it's a done deal. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_bi_ge/att_bellsouth Should be interesting to see: 1. If ATT lives up to the terms of the deal. 2. If anybody watches to see if ATT lives up to the terms of the deal. 3. If there's any enforcement action when somebody

RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread JohnnyO
What's illegal about it ? How about scanning and connecting and using an open access point. Jack - let me ask you a very simple question. If you left your front door open, and I just happened to be walking by and noticed your wife, would it be ok if I came in and umm connected so to speak with

RE: [WISPA] latest ATT filing

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Smith
why? You're the only one against it *wink* *wink* *nod* *nod* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing Apparently, the rumor is the

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
JohnnyO wrote: What's illegal about it ? How about scanning and connecting and using an open access point. I think that you will find that using an open access point to allow a first-responder (police, fire, etc.) to communicate with the rest of the world would not be considered a crime.

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Matt Liotta
Jack Unger wrote: OK, I'll forgive the analogy but, in a real emergency, you have to do what needs to be done. Actually, in an emergency a public safety organization should make use of their emergency communication plan, which really shouldn't rely on unlicensed spectrum, a consumer access

Re: [WISPA] capstan

2006-12-29 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I never heard of them. Nice. What would one cost? Brian Rick Harnish wrote: Chris, I bought a 120v model this summer. We love it. http://www.myte.com/products_utility.html http://www.myte.com/distributors.asp?State=oh Happy New Years! Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Carl A jeptha
This where wisps come in, they should be part of the emergency response plan, not a half-assed after thought. I have been trying to make my community understand that a well built rural wireless solution should be part of every County's emergency plan.. in our ham operator's case, a quick call or

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread George Rogato
Not the wife story again.. JohnnyO wrote: What's illegal about it ? How about scanning and connecting and using an open access point. Jack - let me ask you a very simple question. If you left your front door open, and I just happened to be walking by and noticed your wife, would it be ok

Re: [WISPA] speaking of CPE

2006-12-29 Thread Carl A jeptha
Use the Linksys wrt 54g as an Router/CPE, also reflash with dd-wrt firmware including the models with vxworks. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha W.D.McKinney wrote: I am wondering if anyone

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread George Rogato
Mark McElvy wrote: In general what is considered a better combination, lower powered radio w/ higher gain antenna or higher powered radio w/ lower gain antenna? Mark Rule of thumbs, keep the beamwidth to a minimum and use the lowest power needed to get the job done. These two rules will let

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
Matt Liotta wrote: Jack Unger wrote: OK, I'll forgive the analogy but, in a real emergency, you have to do what needs to be done. Actually, in an emergency a public safety organization should make use of their emergency communication plan, which really shouldn't rely on unlicensed

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Carl A jeptha
I have used a tr5a against an MT AP and no problems. I also use Tranzeo 6000 for AP's and really don't see them slowing down. They also act as Backhaul AP's (at the same time) in PTMP mode for other microcell backhauls. Granted we don't have amount of clients that you have. We actually use the

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
WISPs should certainly be involved; some already are... Also, some WISPs have ham employees who are already involved and trained in emergency communications... Carl A jeptha wrote: This where wisps come in, they should be part of the emergency response plan, not a half-assed after thought. I

RE: [WISPA] recommendation forClient POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread JohnnyO
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] recommendation forClient POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g Matt Liotta wrote: Jack Unger wrote: OK,

Re: [WISPA] recommendation forClient POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
JohnnyO, Please see my answers to your questions inline at the bottom of this email. Thanks, jack JohnnyO wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 6:09 PM To: WISPA General List

RE: [WISPA] recommendation forClient POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread JohnnyO
*** Jack Wrote . ---2. No, I am not saying that using illegal means to gain Internet access is OK. You are putting words into my mouth and I'm not going to let you get away with that. I said that in an emergency, accessing an available open access point to provide communications for emergency

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread Matt Liotta
Jack Unger wrote: Probably 90% of public safety organizations' Emergency Communications Plans have made use of ham radio operators for years and continue to make use of hams today. While a ham could certainly make use of unlicensed spectrum, consumer access points, and best effort internet

Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing - Done Deal

2006-12-29 Thread Mike Ireton
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] latest ATT filing - Done Deal Looks like it's a done deal. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061229/ap_on_bi_ge/att_bellsouth Should be interesting to see: 1. If ATT lives up

Re: [WISPA] recommendation forClient POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread George Rogato
Johnny, you are probably right. There was a guy who was arrested recently sitting in his car in front of someones house and we all discussed it and there was 2 opinions: 1- If it aint secured, it's open and it 'should' be ok. 2- if you don't have permission your stealing regardless of it being

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread George Rogato
Brian, I can send you a couple for free if you need some for your emergency response team. I've got a bunch of Teletronics 802.11B EZ Bridges, 100mw and 200mw, that I pulled and replaced with Lonnie's war boards. They work fine. Have a web interface for survey and configuration and are just

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-29 Thread David E. Smith
Jack Unger wrote: I think that you will find that using an open access point to allow a first-responder (police, fire, etc.) to communicate with the rest of the world would not be considered a crime. Technically, yes, it probably is. No prosecutor in this country would touch it with a

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Ryan, I realize this is somewhat tangential to your main point, but I wanted to point out that EIGRP/IGRP aren't standard protocols, nor will they work with any other router, necessarily. If you are shying away from proprietary equipment, Cisco's proprietary routing protocols are the last

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-29 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Carl A jeptha wrote: Backhaul CPE for some of our lighter microcells. My main Gateway is an MT, my Router board (with a valid License) is packed away waiting for me to decide something great to do with it. Come on Butch tell me something :-) Ummmyou can send it to

Re: [WISPA] ESRI Cable Boundaries / Electronics and Internet MarketPotential

2006-12-29 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 12/29/06, Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want to make sure what data they are giving you, is it just the franchise boundaries or the built out cable areas? The built out data is hard to find or very expensive if available. Good point .. it may actually be the former. The

Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-29 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
AHA I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been coming from!! Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication disabled on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up with requests from TruckPC. They were coming from access points

NOW: Emergency Broadband Data Needs. WAS: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE...

2006-12-29 Thread Jack Unger
Matt, Please see my responses and additional information inline. Thanks, jack Matt Liotta wrote: Jack Unger wrote: Probably 90% of public safety organizations' Emergency Communications Plans have made use of ham radio operators for years and continue to make use of hams today.

[WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-29 Thread Butch Evans
I'd like to throw this out for the weekend. I want to gather some ideas for IMPLEMENTATIONS you'd like to see with existing RouterOS technology. I have a few that I can think of off the top of my head that I will try to get documented (some possibly for free - to be posted on my website).