Subject: [Open-net-working-group] Agenda: FTC Broadband
CompetitionWorkshop
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http://www.ftc.gov/opp/workshops/broadband/agenda.pdf
AGENDA
Tuesday, February 13—Morning Session
Opening Remarks by Chairman Majoras
Technical
There is a co on the part-15 list. Craig House, of mowisp.com. I shot him
the info. He has a number of towers in the area.
:)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:01 AM
To: WISPA General
Can anyone tell me what Crown Castle typically charges for a wisp type
setup- 2 BH radios and a sector antenna? They are quoting me $1750 for
the structural analysis.
Thanks
Chris
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That sounds pretty typical for a structural study. Many tower companies will
require this study each time a new tenant proposes to add equipment to the
tower. Also watch out for any application fees and the requirement to use
only their approved construction crews. That could affect your
This list is often very ugly and can be a big waste of time.
Has it always been that way?
Marty
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Sure. Anytime there are people around
I agree though. I don't understand why people that disagree can't do so
without the insults.
Like mama used to say, if you've got nothing good to say grin
Marlon
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Mark,
How does YOUR view address the real competition that towns have to
attract new business?
Bad roads? That's everywhere.
Lousy schools? Uh, again everywhere.
But you can't fix either without a tax base and a working (paycheck
collecting) community.
Many companies tele-source call
Mark,
I did overstep my bounds a little and do apologize for the last
statement in my post.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Mark,
Many if not most RFP's today require a percentage of accounts be
discounted heavily or given away for just the reasons you are describing.
The
I'll agree with Mark on this. There are many that are exploiting city
counsel's across the country to only line their own pockets. I have read
about one muni-wifi failure after another...point me to a real success
story. As a percentage my guess is the failures far, far outweigh the
successes.
Brad,
Here is a link you might want to read up on.
http://muniwireless.com/municipal/1556
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Brad Belton wrote:
I'll agree with Mark on this. There are many that are exploiting city
counsel's across the country to only line their own pockets. I have read
about one
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From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
Mark,
How does YOUR view address the real competition that towns have to attract
new
There is some important info missing here.
How many are actually running. What do they cost? How much do they
generate/save?
How many are under construction?
How many are still in the planning stages?
Calling the planning stage deployments, deployments seems less than genuine
to me. I'm
Hello Dawn,
I appreciate the link. Pretty sure I've been there in the past, but
nevertheless I'm sure the muniwireless website will offer completely
unbiased viewpoints. grin
I still believe the cellular guys will ultimately be the best choice for the
mobile user. Even with today's technology
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From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
Mark,
Many if not most RFP's today require a percentage of accounts be
Marlon,
Comments inline.
There is some important info missing here.
How many are actually running. What do they cost? How much do they
generate/save?
How many are under construction?
How many are still in the planning stages?
Calling the planning stage deployments, deployments seems
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From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
Mark,
How does YOUR view address the real competition that towns have to
attract new
Don't worry, Dawn :)
I never for a moment thought you had any offense intended.And even if
you did... heh, I certainly won't remember it tomorrow...
You're all one install from being forgotten, as when I'm busy, I don't
really think about the subjects on this list... Just the stuff I learn.
Interestingly enough, the town I used to live in, just a few miles from me,
offers discounted water, garbage sewer, AND electricity as an economic
incentive. Certainly, the wisdom of our forefathers in investing in future
electrical production paid off handsomely in the lives of the people of
Well, there is an a good book about the chicken and egg: The Rise of the
Creative Class.
Dr. Florida has studied what makes an urban area thrive.
It involves what he describes as the Creative Class.
Those are the people that drive the city - with events, charity work,
spending, yada.
These
Is this a WISPA sponsored publication? Or just someone who snagged my
email off the list?
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Subject:WISP 60 Second Newsletter
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:33:18 -0800
From: Rick Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I feel violated. Sponsored emails *to the list* are good; emails sent
directly to me are not.
On 1/10/07, Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this a WISPA sponsored publication? Or just someone who snagged my
email off the list?
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I am not sure but Ken and I just got the same thing.
Peter R. wrote:
Is this a WISPA sponsored publication? Or just someone who snagged my
email off the list?
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Subject: WISP 60 Second Newsletter
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:33:18 -0800
From: Rick
Peter R. wrote:
Is this a WISPA sponsored publication? Or just someone who snagged my
email off the list?
I am getting it as well.
Jeremy
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Peter R. wrote:
Is this a WISPA sponsored publication? Or just someone who snagged
my email off the list?
If we all send 100 unsubscribe requests, then perhaps he will stop
doing this. I've sent unsubscribe requests in the past, which were
ignored, as I got this one,
me 2. And it's all stuff we've discussed already.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:53 PM
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I got it too...on a list only email addy...not only is he spamming, but he's
not even targeting.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:07 PM
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Cc: [EMAIL
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From: Dawn DiPietro[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/10/07 1:22:52 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
Brad,
Here is a link you might want to read up on.
How do you feel the rise of the i-phone (either cisco or apple) will
affect your business? Will this be positive because it drives more
customers onto your wi-fi networks with their dual mode phone? Or, will
it be negative as more devices become standardized on cellular carrier's
networks? Will
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From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
Marlon,
Comments inline.
There is some important info missing here.
How many
Marlon,
Interesting. Only 7500 b/g ap's in 50 square miles. Anyone care to run
the radio mobile map of that? hehehehe At least they should almost all
be indoors. But that's still 150 ap's per square mile Yikes. That
does NOT count microwave ovens, non wifi devices, phones, cameras etc.
Where can I get the best price on the parabolic dish that goes with the
Motorola Canopy 2.4 radios? I need to get some and my sysadmin is unavailable.
See what happens when the boss is in charge? :) Feel free to contact me off
list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] there so no need to start a thread out
Brad,
This article posted below might validate your point of view but we will
have to see how this system actually works.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Cellular phone network used as backhaul for WiFi hotspot in cars
by Guy J Kewney | posted on 05 January 2007
Autonet coverage Two 3G (sort of)
Yep- you are correct, sir- I have it from a very reliable source.
* EL locates on City (or whatever utility it is) poles.
* They pledge that they will allow other ISPs to wheel their service over
the network (many spare SSIDs are available)
* They foot the bill for the install (I'd say 2 million
Oy! You are right. What I MEANT to say, was that there were 7500 that are
NOT on channel 6.
My bad.
marlon
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From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni
well, I for one converted 3 EL customers this week. 2 more
next week so far.
the DSL plant they're working with up here (Sprint local)
is just my best advertising. Fastest they offer is 512 / 90. lol.
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Which is why tax dollars should pay for it, and not The winning bidder.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:13 AM
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Rick Smith wrote:
Looking at a great possibility here, for a whole county in NJ
installing a municipal driven wireless network, operating a public
safety network as well as a broadband delivery component for other
ISPs and Customers...
I've done this part. The network I
Structural analasis fee is appropriately priced. But most likely the
structural is NOT needed. When Telco's put up elaborate infrastrucure it is
often needed.
It is not likely needed for a small WISP installtion. Its also likely that
existing gear can come down. If the gear going up is less
Agreed. I bought a CPE once and it was a 30 day wait. They clearly didn't
have funds to do production, and were looking for their clients to fund the
production.
I didn't know Towersteam dumped Aperto. What did they switch to?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
I deployed a WRAP 2C with a Sr5 and Prism2511mp, 18VDC POE, and I had a
constant problem with it rebooting until I replaced the WRAP with a
Routerboard 532A. I put the little MiniPCI riser card thing on it, and
put 2x Prism2511's, 1x SR5 and 1x Sr2. Its been running pretty reliably
since then.
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