RE: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Rick Smith
what hardware ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix XO Communications today launched broadband wireless services in Phoenix, bringing

[WISPA] Mikrotik 900MHz feedback

2007-03-20 Thread Don Annas
Is anyone using the MTIKs w/ the 900MHz cards? We use Mikrotiks for routing frequently; however, we have never used them as an actual access point. How do these work as 900MHz APs/SUs and is it more cost effective than a canned solution such as Trango or Tranzeo 900 gear? Thanks.

[WISPA] Working With Others

2007-03-20 Thread Eric Rogers
Ok, I knew the day would come...I got a phone call the other day that I knocked out 350 Automatic Meter Readers because they are within the same frequency range I am using. They are 917.50 MHz, and I am using Motorola Canopy centered on 920. Now, here are my issues. I have two other ones

[WISPA] My bad--apologies to the List!

2007-03-20 Thread Edward J. Hatfield III
Folks, I'm sorry about my most recent-incomplete-post. My wife's PC crashed while I was drafting the post and I must have hit Send instead of Save when I closed mine down. It was late-what can I say? Mea culpa! To finish the thought processes, The Two 'S' Rule refers to the essential

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik 900MHz feedback

2007-03-20 Thread Travis Johnson
The biggest difference with MT 900mhz vs. Trango is the Trango radios have filters already built into the units. In noisy environments, the Trango will perform much better unless you install filters on the MT units. Travis Microserv Don Annas wrote: Is anyone using the MTIKs w/ the 900MHz

Re: [WISPA] Working With Others

2007-03-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes... we have the same exact meter systems in two or three of our cities. We have to use channel 1 or 4 on Trango (906mhz, 924mhz) and horizontal polarity to stay out of their way. They were very easy to deal with, and actually purchased a horizontal omni for us to fix one of the cities.

Re: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Peter R.
Hughes Network Systems is a strategic Nextlink partner, providing its LMDS AIReach AB9400 system in both point-to-point and point-to-multipoint modes to support Nextlink's high-speed Internet access and Ethernet services. Peter R. wrote: XO Communications today launched broadband wireless

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik 900MHz feedback

2007-03-20 Thread Marty Dougherty
Probably not legal- so not really very cost effective :) Marty ___ Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-554-6620 www.roadstarinternet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Nothing new. XO has had an active Wireless Broadband division for the last few years. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007

[WISPA] ELN Acton Wi-Fi Phone

2007-03-20 Thread Peter R.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/20/earthlink-unveils-wifi-phone-beta-in-anaheim-ca/ Earthlink's finally ready to publicly discuss the WiFi phone beta they've been running in Anaheim California -- well, kind of. They didn't exactly have much to say about the service because it's in beta, but we

Re: [WISPA] My bad--apologies to the List!

2007-03-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Ed, All good advice, thanks. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Edward J. Hatfield III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: [WISPA] My bad--apologies to the List!

Re: [WISPA] NextLink in Phoenix

2007-03-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Agreed. They are in a number of our buildings. Everything done to top Telco standards. The Hughes AirReach gear aint cheap either. They definately are throwing money at it. But at the end of the day, can they walk away with the customer AND still make a profit? Teligent/Winstar proved

Re: [WISPA] Working With Others

2007-03-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
This is a good one Eric. FIRST and FOREMOST, they were there first, you need to find a way to change things.. FCC wise they have no leg to stand on. But as good citizens and a good American, you need to do the honorable thing and design your new system around any existing ones. I

[WISPA] WISP blocked access to Washington Post website - Dumb or Responsible?

2007-03-20 Thread Jack Unger
I spend time each day keeping up not just on technical news but on world news. Last Saturday or Sunday, I noticed that I could no longer access the website of the Washington Post. Whatever your political view of the Washington Post, it is still considered as one of the top two national

Re: [WISPA] WISP blocked access to Washington Post website - Dumb orResponsible?

2007-03-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We block ip addys that put us under attack or are caught at port sniffing. Other than that, I don't block access to things (though I'm VERY ready to block xboxfreezone.com and other such scams :-). It's your job to make sure that your computer is in good shape, firewall etc., wise not mine.

RE: [WISPA] Working With Others

2007-03-20 Thread Eric Rogers
Thanks Marlon, I also agree that since I am the newbie in the area, I need to be willing to be flexible. But, what options do I have when my channels are 8MHz wide and they are in the upper end of my channel 2 and channel 3 is unusable by paging? I can move my center channel 1 MHz at a time, so

[WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Nash
I had a customer tell me yesterday that he uses his Gnutella program to do unlimited downloads from a paid site. I've used the Mikrotik routers (p2p queue set to 64k) to block this and other programs, so it's not working now for the customer. I want to allow for paid downloads, but not P2P

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Carl A jeptha
The paid P2P is only for support on the software, it does not make it legit. go to the site and read what it says. No royalties are paid to anyone. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Mark Nash

[WISPA] Lawmakers threaten FBI over spy powers

2007-03-20 Thread Frank Muto
Lawmakers threaten FBI over spy powers By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press Writer http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070320/ap_on_go_co/national_security_letters Republicans and Democrats sternly warned the FBI on Tuesday that it could lose its broad power to collect telephone, e-mail

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
I've seen sites like Limewire that charge for using the program (with limewire facelift) to do unlimited downloads - Still Ilegal. Also I ran across a customer who did his homework signed up for the third most popular DVD download site, but it was still a Paid P2P scam!! On 3/20/07, Mark

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread David E. Smith
Mark Nash wrote: I had a customer tell me yesterday that he uses his Gnutella program to do unlimited downloads from a paid site. I've used the Mikrotik routers (p2p queue set to 64k) to block this and other programs, so it's not working now for the customer. I want to allow for paid

RE: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Mac Dearman
The only cure for P2P is bandwidth caps. We have operated this way since our inception 5 years ago. We all sale bandwidth for a living - - the more I sale the more money I make. I tell every client what their share is for the month (listed in our TOS AUP) and I charge for any amount over that.

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
Or - shape EVERYTHING. You don't want limits? You can easily set a burst limit, not like a typical one, but using long averages and multiple shapes. Like for instance: 10M burst, for 10 seconds, then 5M burst for 30 seconds, after that you take it down to 1-2Mbps for say 30 more seconds. But

[WISPA] Fw: [WISP] cost per customer and new toys

2007-03-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I didn't see much talk on this so I thought I'd see what everyone else has to say. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Pete Davis
Ares Ultra costs the customer around $50 from what I hear. It ENCRYPTS the P2P traffic, and the Mikrotik will NOT recognize it as P2P traffic, so it will take EVERY AVAILABLE PACKET that your AP can push out. The way I have dealt with this is to disable the client (at the radio level) and when

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Pete Davis
Ares Ultra costs the customer around $50 from what I hear. It ENCRYPTS the P2P traffic, and the Mikrotik will NOT recognize it as P2P traffic, so it will take EVERY AVAILABLE PACKET that your AP can push out. The way I have dealt with this is to disable the client (at the radio level) and when

Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit?

2007-03-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Check out the High Speed Wireless program here. Pay special attention to the transfer limits. http://www.odessaoffice.com/services.html We turn things like that into profit centers. If they won't pay, then they fire themselves. OR they learn to control their usage. If they stay and don't