[WISPA] testing - ignore

2007-03-29 Thread Carl A jeptha
testing please ignore -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Clint Ricker
Just some general thoughts on large corporations, financing, and business. While Peter's analysis about silos and funding sources is right on, I'm going to skirt that discussion because it isn't a meaningful discussion on a superficial level. How do they make money? (Well, if they do make

Re: [WISPA] Need Coverage Help ... PA

2007-03-29 Thread Tim Wolfe
Rick, a little far out of my reach. Sorry Dude! Rick Smith wrote: lol. I don't care if I make nothin off this one - I have to bill them. We're doing three of their stations up here in jersey - their fourth is in aston. they won't do any if we can't do them all. :) -Original

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Travis Johnson
I agree with almost everything you said... except the triple play revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Also, I don't have a problem with 30-50 year ROI for fiber... but ClearWire is wireless... all the equipment

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
Travis Johnson wrote: I agree with almost everything you said... except the triple play revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Also, I don't have a problem with 30-50 year ROI for fiber... but ClearWire is

[WISPA] Phone deal goes to Qwest, ATT, Verizon

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070329/ap_on_bi_ge/telecom_contract;_ylt=Ah3Q.tj.l235OOssbNwlDBF34T0D Qwest Communications International Inc., ATT Inc. and Verizon Inc. on Thursday were awarded the government's largest telecommunications contract ever, a 10-year deal worth up to $48 billion. I

Re: [WISPA] ot OE links

2007-03-29 Thread Rich Comroe
Many Microsoft programs use common routines to provide functions (so they don't replicate them in each program). These show up as SVCHOST in the task-manager, and perform a variety of functions such as right-click menus, launching windows, opening links, etc. Some 3rd party applications have

[WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We have been contacted by a hotel that would like us to install some type of access control on their wireless service. Currently they have 6 or 8 Linksys AP's connected via ethernet back to their main switch. Their Cisco router is providing DHCP. The problem is they have a lot of people

RE: [WISPA] ot OE links

2007-03-29 Thread Wireless Internet Service Providers Assoc.
Look at: http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/nolinks.htm This will fix your problem... HTH.. Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ot OE links

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Clint Ricker
I agree with almost everything you said... except the triple play revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Their introductory price is $99 per month, but they are most likely counting on people bumping up a tier in DSL

Re: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread Clint Ricker
Your cheapest option is running DD-WRT (http://dd-wrt.com) and Chillispot (http://www.chillispot.org/). m0n0wall also does captive portal for cheap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_portal has a good list of captive portals I'm not sure whether it works in a bridging scenario, though; that

Re: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

2007-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
My suggest was, that we should support this but suggest that they mandate atpc. thoughts? marlon - Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on

Re: [WISPA] Phone Cos Eye Largest US Government Telecom Contract Ever

2007-03-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
sigh Let the dang government shop the best local service that they can find! Gotta love paying taxes in only to have the money spent everywhere else. marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28,

[WISPA] Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way

2007-03-29 Thread Matt Liotta
Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way Next Generation Wireless Technology Puts Eyes on Mean Streets ATLANTA (March 28, 2007) – It’s the intersection of cutting-edge technology and the desire to reduce crime in Atlanta that brought together Atlanta Police

Re: [WISPA] Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way

2007-03-29 Thread Jack Unger
So... what kind of cameras are you using, Matt? Matt Liotta wrote: Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way Next Generation Wireless Technology Puts Eyes on Mean Streets ATLANTA (March 28, 2007) – It’s the intersection of cutting-edge technology and the

Re: [WISPA] Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
2 questions Matt. What cameras are you using. and How did you become one of the largest wireless providers in the nation? Matt Liotta wrote: Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way Next Generation Wireless Technology Puts Eyes on Mean Streets ATLANTA

RE: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread Ralph
You can buy a portal from Valuepoint or any of the other manufacturers of them. You can use a PC running Mikrotik. Pay 40 bucks for the hotspot license. You can use a PC running Chillispot. Then, connect their existing Linksys APs. That way you are using a certified motherboard (a PC) and

RE: [WISPA] Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way

2007-03-29 Thread Ralph
Saw it on TV last night. Good job. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way --

Re: [WISPA] Atlanta Police and One Ring Networks Team Up To Fight Crime the Hi-tech Way

2007-03-29 Thread Matt Liotta
Ralph wrote: Saw it on TV last night. Good job. Thanks, we have another announcement forthcoming as we expand the project. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
Then why doesn't Mikrotik GET their boards FCC certified? I know it's cheap but if 1000 of us WISPs spend $5k each to certify it, vs MT spending $5k once and charging an extra 5 bucks, I'd rather do that. Annoying to say the least. - Original Message - From: Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread Clint Ricker
Certification wouldn't matter on this; he's not looking to use any wireless functions on the product. It's a straight Ethernet based solution. DD-WRT may be controversial as a wireless solution, but it makes a pretty good router for a $50 device (IPTables, OSPF/BGP/RIP, PPTP VPN, IPSec VPN,

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread Alan Cain
George Rogato wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: I agree with almost everything you said... except the triple play revenue... Qwest is doing a triple play system (Qwest DSL, Qwest VoIP and DirecTV) for $99 per month with $0 install. Also, I don't have a problem with 30-50 year ROI for fiber... but

Re: [WISPA] McCaw losing money?

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
Alan Cain wrote: And quoting unit prices is fully effective enough. One of my POPs has gone from 20 customers to 1 customer, as Qwest has aggressively targeted the area with phone calls to each (!) of my customers 4, 5 and 6 times a week, offering 1.7 Mbps service for 37.50/month. The

RE: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread Ralph
Hi Clint- There's another certification involved. Not just Part 15 for intentional radiators, which is what the radio cards have to follow. The one I am talking about is a different part of Part 15: Computing Devices. The one where things are classified as Class A or B computing devices.

Re: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread George Rogato
Ralph wrote: Hi Clint- There's another certification involved. Not just Part 15 for intentional radiators, which is what the radio cards have to follow. The one I am talking about is a different part of Part 15: Computing Devices. The one where things are classified as Class A or B

RE: [WISPA] hotspot

2007-03-29 Thread Ralph
Looks good! The more I read of their info, the more intrigued I am. I have a lot of experience with big networks using Tropos mesh and this seems like some interesting competition. Isn't a Pronghorn a kind of sheep? Their Computing Device statement:

Re: [WISPA] CALEA

2007-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
I doubt that is the case. If the upstream is inline and can provide the data flow from a point of aggregation (upstream network connection) then the TTP hardware connected upstream should be compliant. Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: A ttp is compliant. But it's entirely

Re: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

2007-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
Brad, Jack and I did not say this is something WISPA should ignore. Read what Jack said and I agreed with. I own an AWS license myself so trust me when I say I believe licensed interests can match our own. I just do not agree with your assessment that this is a big issue for WISPA to devote

Re: [WISPA] one-third of U.S. households have no Internet...and do not plan to get it

2007-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
Remember this the next time someone tells you how the US is behind in broadband. Scriv George Rogato wrote: MOUNTAIN VIEW, California (Reuters) - A little under one-third of U.S. households have no Internet access and do not plan to get it, with most of the holdouts seeing little use for it

RE: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

2007-03-29 Thread Brad Belton
Hello John, Read Jack's follow up and you'll see where I (and possibly a few others) were coming from. It is easily plausible to misunderstand Jack's intent and Jack acknowledged there was an I don't have time for this element to his original post. No harm no foul. grin Best, Brad

Re: [WISPA] FCC requests comment on smaller dishes for 11 GHz

2007-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
The truth is we need qualified RF engineers to speak up if they are here. It is my limited RF engineering knowledge which has always led me to believe that F/D Ratio (Focal Length to Diameter Ratio) which determines the beamwidth of the focused RF beam including the spread of the spurious side

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
On another subject Two months ago, we were ready to join WISPA. At the time, I felt that WISPA had proven its longevity and was becoming a mature voice for the WISP's. But, after the form 477 issue, FCC sticker issue, and now the CALEA issue, I'm pretty sure that I disagree with the

Re: [WISPA] why join ... a rant

2007-03-29 Thread John Scrivner
Peter R. wrote: I haven't joined yet either. Three reasons: (1) I would have to join as a vendor, since I am a consultant - and I can't as yet see the ROI. I can see that. If people here do not pay you enough to pay your dues then why would you join? i guess there could be an argument

[WISPA] MobiTV to Link Cable DVRs to Phones

2007-03-29 Thread David Hughes
Let us hope that the cable companies will also eat the bandwidth that will be involved in this. I have a TIVO attached to a Slingbox and use my cell (Sprint 6700) to watch DC programming anywhere I can get an EVDO signal or Wi-Fi, but it is a real bandwidth hog. ___ MobiTV to