[WISPA] [Fwd: Music Industry Proposes a Piracy Surcharge on ISPs]

2008-03-18 Thread Martha Huizenga
Interesting articles regarding file sharing. Who would actually make sure we pay and who would we be paying to? http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2008/03/music_levy?currentPage=all; http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article3353387.ece

Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.

2008-03-18 Thread Steve
At 9500ft the air is pretty thin and you'll get maximum about 70% the rated output at comparable wind speeds. The curve is probably based on sea level air density. The plus side is that you may be in the clouds part of the time and enjoy some air laden with moisture. -- Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] FW: Red Work Binder: Emergency use only!

2008-03-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
roflmao! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Cliff

[WISPA] waverider power supplies

2008-03-18 Thread chris cooper
Im looking for some power supplies for WR eum 3003 and 3004. If you know where I can find some hit me offlist. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Joshua Rowe
This should maybe be a new thread, and I'm not sure Tom is making this point or not,, but I agree, would you trust your CORE to anything but Cisco? I'm not sure I would. Josh -- NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com -- Original Message --- From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.

2008-03-18 Thread John Valenti
I think Paul Gipe is a respected name in wind. I was looking at his site over the weekend, he has an older review of the Air-X, he seemed to think it should really be rated as a 200 watt generator. http://www.wind-works.org/articles/sm_AirXtest.html (I see the company has a newer model

[WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread David E. Smith
Joshua Rowe wrote: This should maybe be a new thread, and I'm not sure Tom is making this point or not,, but I agree, would you trust your CORE to anything but Cisco? I'm not sure I would. Cisco gear is well-supported and pretty darned solid, but is often many times as expensive as the

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs
I would trust MT all the way! MT all the way! I know MANY MANY MANY WISPs, with thousands and thousands of clients running on Mikrotik! Joshua Rowe wrote: This should maybe be a new thread, and I'm not sure Tom is making this point or not,, but I agree, would you trust your CORE to

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Matt Liotta
On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Joshua Rowe wrote: This should maybe be a new thread, and I'm not sure Tom is making this point or not,, but I agree, would you trust your CORE to anything but Cisco? I'm not sure I would. So what do you run at your core? -Matt

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread Matt Liotta
On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:36 PM, David E. Smith wrote: Cisco gear is well-supported and pretty darned solid, but is often many times as expensive as the next-best alternative, and the benefits don't always justify the drastically increased cost. That is usually the argument, but it does

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread Gino Villarini
Got another one for sale? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:55 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Matt, I generally stay out of these things, but I have some questions in order to answer your question: 1. You are referring to used Cisco pricing, right? 2. How much throughput do you require the router to handle? 3. How much are you paying for support? If you need less than 100 Megs

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread Matt Liotta
I have access to a large source. Hit me offlist with what you need. -Matt On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Got another one for sale? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Liotta wrote: Anyway, that is a silly question. Here is a better one. I am currently paying around $3k for Cisco 12008s that are fully redundant, can handle today's full tables (i.e. greater than 256,000 routes), route at line speed, support MPLS, etc. Can you name any solution

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread Matt Liotta
On Mar 18, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: Hi Matt, I generally stay out of these things, but I have some questions in order to answer your question: 1. You are referring to used Cisco pricing, right? Yes 2. How much throughput do you require the router to handle? Gigs

Re: [WISPA] FW: INNOVATION - The Square Watermelon

2008-03-18 Thread Brian Webster
Amen Cliff!. When I was in the Navy reserves we used to show up to active duty commands and show them new ways to do things all of the time. In most cases they had been trained by career Navy people before them who had never seen any other way to accomplish something. As a reservist we

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread Matt Liotta
On Mar 18, 2008, at 1:11 PM, David E. Smith wrote: Where are you getting your gear? That's roughly 90% less than any price I've ever been quoted. Heck, that's cheaper than a lot of the used units on eBay - and that's just empty chassis, not even including line cards. Are you sure

[WISPA] White label voip

2008-03-18 Thread George Rogato
Someone was just offering whaite label voip for 12.00 per month here at wispa. Who? I'm interested in learning more WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Mark Nash
Yes, I would. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Joshua Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] FW: INNOVATION - The Square Watermelon

2008-03-18 Thread chris cooper
Square Watermelons? What about square pumpkins? Think of the Jack O' Lantern possibilities. If the average American family is 3.14 people, that same family need only buy one pumpkin and everybody gets to carve their own side. That's it - this year Im plowing up all my towers and planting square

[WISPA] Need Access

2008-03-18 Thread Jory Privett
I have a customer that has moved to the Tulas, OK area and needs access. She is just outside western Tulsa near Sapulpa. She is just outside the range Cable and DSL is unhappy with Satellite. If anyone services this area or know of someone that does please contact me and I will refer her to

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Travis Johnson
We already do. Imagestream and Mikrotik for over 2 years. 0 downtime and hot spares in the rack. :) Travis Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I would. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998-

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Mark Nash
I think it also depends on your application. The people asking and answering these questions may be apples and oranges. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Mark Nash
I think it also depends on your application. The people asking and answering these questions may be apples and oranges. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] Off Grid System Design Comments.

2008-03-18 Thread tonylist
FYI we had a 11-28vDC input to 48vDC output unit made for the wind/solar power design: http://www.demarctech.com/store/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_34/product s_id/247 While there is some energy loss in the conversion the overall cost and quality of a 12vDC works out better than using a pure

[WISPA] Radome

2008-03-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Why would I use a radome on a dish? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Radome

2008-03-18 Thread Mark Nash
ICE... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Radome

Re: [WISPA] Radome

2008-03-18 Thread Brad Belton
Ice. Reduce wind load. Aesthetics. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radome ICE... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E

Re: [WISPA] Radome

2008-03-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Lower wind loading, ice shedding, pattern retention during ice and freezing rain, protection of the feed from the elements and critters, aesthetics. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:02 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Radome

2008-03-18 Thread Mike Goicoechea
Birds, kids with bb guns, kids with rocks Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radome ICE... Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78

Re: [WISPA] XR9 rubber duckys

2008-03-18 Thread Jim Patient
I don't see that it's bulkhead but I'll give them a call tomorrow. Thanx Jim Blair Davis wrote: Maybe part # MCA100FSMAMMRA1 at hutton? http://www.hol4g.com/ac/product.aspx?number=MAX-MCA100FSMAMMRA1p=182191sc=3715 Blair Jim Patient wrote: I need to do some indoor 900MHz clients and

Re: [WISPA] Router Wars '08

2008-03-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
I don't think there is anything wrong with comparing used prices with others new prices, if the used gear potentially has a reputation of a longer life span due to quality engineering, or a good aftermarket repair channel.. The downfalls I see are most people can't find that caliber (12000

Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

2008-03-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
Disclaimer... I currently do not use Cisco. I use Linux routers and SMC switches. Its been working out well for me. But I understand the Cisco value. It has NOTHING to do with hardware or performance. It has to do with predictabilty and documentation. It has to do with name recognition and

[WISPA] WISPA Board Reaches Agreement with Research Vendor

2008-03-18 Thread Rick Harnish
The WISPA Board has reached an agreement with an anonymous Research Vendor. The vendor has discounted it’s services which will soon be made available to WISPA members. The value of this database normally would cost companies several hundred dollars per month, however, the board has decided to