It shouldn't since your wired and wireless cards have different mac addresses.
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From: Tom Warfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RSTP problems with simultaneous
Some of the wireless vendors that I deal with have told me some horror
stories about VARs / integrators who are extremely bad.
My questions are
(1) How do you find good wireless VARs, particularly ones with the right mix
of networking and RF skills?
AND
(2) Can you recommend any good ones to
If you need someone to help you should tell us what the application is and
where you need help. There are plenty of good people here who can help you
once the requirements are more well defined..
John Scrivner
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some of the
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:09 AM, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you need someone to help you should tell us what the application is and
where you need help. There are plenty of good people here who can help you
once the requirements are more well defined..
John Scrivner
True...
My rule of thumb is you need 600 subscribers per employee.
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From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:17 AM
Subject: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?
Whats the
Wow... we have been profitable for the last 10 years (growing 10-15%
per year in net profit) and we only have 200 subs per employee.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 2 wrote:
My rule of thumb is you need 600 subscribers per employee.
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From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
When you are continuously profitable?
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
Whats the magic client number?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
Whats the magic client number?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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I would say that ARPU per employee would be a better metric cause in
Chuck case, he has tons of subs with low ARPU, In our case, we have
hundreds of subs with a higher ARPU ( avg $170) ...
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
Yeah, we charge $29.95, first month free and a free install in most cases.
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From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful WISP?
When the owner(s) can make a decent living and stop pouring money sweat.
Figure a path to this outcome IN YOUR MARKET and get there. Once there,
your WISP will be successful, Grasshopper...
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
www.linktechs.net
Rogelio wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:09 AM, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you need someone to help you should tell us what the application is and
where you need help. There are plenty of good people here who can help you
once the requirements are more
We need more volunteer ism from this group. A lot of us are here just
reading the list getting good ideas and advice and not really doing much
to contribute to wispa as an association or industry group.
Here is a situation where the feds are going to add regulation to your
business. You, me,
://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20080419/tc_cmp/207400668;_ylt=Aj7BtiECX4xS0wtp8dAGI1X6VbIF
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The Federal Communications Commission's hearing at Stanford Thursday was
a chance for the public to vent frustrations at Comcast's and other
Internet service providers' network-management
On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, George Rogato wrote:
A man who wanted to share old music with friends, a representative
from the Christian Coalition of America, film and music industry
representatives, and a group of angry grandmothers showed up for a
hearing on network management practices,
but those
What are you charging per month? We are at 300 customers per employee and
MRC is $35. Owner isn't sweating.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck
That's a great question Rogelio. Tough but very good.
I'd say that the best way to do it is to ask questions like you are. Find
out who is happy with whoever they hired.
I still think that one of the best people to hire is another wisp. One
that's been at this game for a while and has a
$24.95 is our lowest cost package. Free install most of the time. One
free month. No more than 128 subscribers per AP. Fiber or Dragonwave from
most APs to the NOC. But we also have full match 401K, full pay for spouse
and family health insurance, profit sharing, PTO, company vehicles
The one that causes the income to surpass the expenses!
For us that was 300ish. Now we're over 400 and things are really starting
to look good. We're going to be able to really go after all of our old
credit card debt.
marlon
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From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL
roflmao
ONE person can't take care of 600 subs. Might work ok if you've got
thousands and you do 600 per sub. In our case we have 120ish dialups, 60 or
70 fiber to the home and over 400 wireless and I have a gal in the office
and I hire part time help when I have installs stacked up.
So
Gee can I come work for you?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
You are exactly right. I can show you numerous instances where they are in bed
with the telcos too!!
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From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:28:59 -0500 (CDT)
I have one taking care of 600. He works about 2 installs a day and 2
troubles a day. The growth is pretty flat in that town. I have another
area where there are a few more and we have 2 installers and the growth is
pretty steady. I have 6 installers taking care of 4000 in another area.
manage the networks did not.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20080419/tc_cmp/207400668;_ylt=Aj7BtiECX4xS0wtp8dAGI1X6VbIF
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The Federal Communications Commission's hearing at Stanford Thursday was
a chance for the public to vent frustrations at Comcast's and other
Wow full page ads with them bashing your company name? That sucks. How long
did it take you to go from the dozen subs to what you have built it up to
now?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5 years.
I took it as an honor to be bashed by a nationwide publicly traded company.
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From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a
That's a great story Chuck. I love to see people make it in our industry.
By make it I mean grow, big and fast.
Very cool stuff.
marlon
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From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:19 PM
So, yeah I do have thousands. And I compete with Qwest and Comcast running
full page ads in the paper mentioning us BY NAME.
Yuk. Aren't you a small telco yourself though?
Another question. Where and how do you get your bandwidth being a
small telco? Any discounts being a telco?
Matt
Chuck,
You didn't take into account the receptionists, accounting people,
technical support (for email, DNS problems, etc.), supervisors, tower
climbers, etc.
Also, you didn't quite start out the same as the rest of us (because
you gave away your first install time by saying "SM"). Our first
No discounts. I will go to jail if there is any cross subsidization. We go
to extreme lengths to prove in an audit worthy fashion that our rate payers
on the regulated side are not footing any part of the bill for our
unregulated operations.
The WISP is owned by myself and the founder of the
But it's possible for the WISP to buy "wholesale" from the telco side,
thus robbing Peter to pay Paul... right?
Who is the telco that transports the Level3 to your NOC on the fiber?
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 2 wrote:
No discounts. I will go to jail if there is any cross
The telco can not offer any discriminatory or off tariff rates to us or anyone
else.
We own the fiber from Level 3 to our NOC. Our Wisp pays tariffed rates for the
transport.
No free lunch here folks.
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From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent:
We hire the front office and accounting from another related company on a
service bureau basis.
Our installers are our tower climbers. We hire a call center for tech support.
We have two NOC guys on a full time basis.
When I say started out like the rest of you, I started one customer at a
And we only have 1000 telco customers. The WISP is a far larger operation.
- Original Message -
From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] when does a startup WISP become a successful
BTW, our GigE from Level 3 costs $14/meg. That is a wonderful thing if you
can somehow get to one of their POPs. That has made a huge difference for
us. We started out paying something like $700/T1 from Sprint.
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From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List
How many employees you got over there Kurt?
Went through your web site, very nice indeed. I like your testimonials
and history section.
Keep up the good work, I think your a success.
George
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
What are you charging per month? We are at 300 customers per employee and
MRC is
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
roflmao
ONE person can't take care of 600 subs.
Your right, it takes one guy, me, to answer the phone, and another guy,
my employee to go take care of that sub.
So it's 2 people minimum.
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