Another bankruptcy waiting to happen.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
Hi,
A new player just came
That is not going to happen Tom. Not by a long shot. Nothing
fly-by-night about anything Kelley Dunne and Bill Wallace have ever
done. These are class acts in every sense of the word. Very smart. Very
talented. Very successful. Nothing left to chance. And damn nice people
too that are a dream to
One point you need to remember Travis is that that barely 1 mbps you
are getting is with a self-install CPE that was either mailed to you or
you picked in a retail shop, correct? If so, you likely had it up and
running in under 5 minutes and they did not have to roll a truck.
Chances are, you can
his NOC is not far from one of your NoVA
Yes, aware of it.
My personal opinon... They are over confident. Unforeseen market factors
dictate success or failure, as much as capitol, technical savy, and
ambition.
However, If you say they are good people, they probably are.
I will say, I think they
they are 6 weeks out on them.
But I finally did find some at CTI.
Brian
Bob Moldashel wrote:
Winncom in Chicago
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
MT-485025/SVH/E
I am looking for these from MTI. Anyone know of a US distributer that
might have stock?
It is a dual pol 23 dbi
My point was they are selling a "3mbps connection" that doesn't
deliver... just like the cable companies and telcos... they are no
different. Fluff it all up and do whatever it takes to "fool" the
customer so they will sign up. I don't like it and I think it's
dishonest. I don't like people
For all the props Patrick is giving them for a self-install CPE it
would seem that the link budget isn't there for the service you
ordered. Most likely a professionally installed outdoor CPE would work
for you, but that isn't the point. How can you build a business model
around selling a
Maybe, they are not lying, that is the over the air rate they are
selling.haha.
I'm with you on this one Travis.
Cameron
Midcoast Internet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:35 AM
To:
Hi,
I don't doubt that these two are the nicest people in the whole world.
However, to put on the show that they are serving the under served
markets is total BS. The markets they have deployed in already have
cable, DSL, and at least 2 or 3 other WISP's. The under served
communities in this
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
One point you need to remember Travis is that that barely 1 mbps you
are getting is with a self-install CPE that was
We deliver 4 Mbps on our 900 MHz Canopy. Speed sells. Nothing else matters
if you don't have the speed.
This is good to know in that everywhere these guys set up shop, the local
canopy deployment is sure to have an opportunity picking off unsatisfied
customers.
And 900 Canopy does go
Recently there was a discussion about shielded CAT5 cable and
specifically Shireen. We ordered a couple of boxes to check it out and
seems to be working. Where are people buying shielded CAT5 connectors
at a good price? We would likely order them 500 at a time, but I have
not found
I do not buy shielded and get the cable and connectors from
cat5ecableguy.com
Larry A Weidig wrote:
Recently there was a discussion about shielded CAT5 cable and
specifically Shireen. We ordered a couple of boxes to check it out and
seems to be working. Where are people buying
Good question Matt. The way this is addressed with our major customers
is with radio network planning. One of the services we do that each
major customer has used is to perform a major coverage analysis using
the most current clutter data and a software package called Hexagon. The
analysis is done
We too rely heavily on software for determining the serviceability of
the customer. As part of this our software takes into account not only
antenna height and ground data, but also performs longley-rice loss
calculations that include fresnel clearance, EIRP, antenna patterns
and various
5 meter resolution and current. Typical local construction is also
accounted for. It has been very accurate (beyond our expectation).
Patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:12 AM
To: WISPA
Jonathan,
Are you in the US? When I went to Buffalo's website, they say the
injunction is still in force and they can't sell to the US market.
Do you have a particular model number in mind?
On April 21, at 6:47 PM April 21, Jonathan Schmidt wrote:
I've used the same list and when I got
http://www.blackbox.com/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cid=45,84,867mid=3954
FMTP5ES-250PAK
250 Connectors for $197.95
Thanks,
-Russ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
To follow up on the quote below-
You'll have ups downs, but don't listen to the fear inside your head.
I would listen very closely to the fear inside your head. Don't let it
paralyze you, but listen to it. Fear is a great motivator and often
prevents us from doing some very foolish things.
We have the following equipment available for shipment:
Tsunami 45m full duplex radio 301-27710-1A1/301-27710-1A2 (5.7/5.8g)
Tsunami 100m full duplex radio 301-27720-1A1/301-27720-1A2 (5.3/5.8g)
Multiple Enterasys SSR8 with controller boards and fast ethernet cards
Multiple Enterasys SSR16
Chuck:
Depends on the frequency, channel size, type of service delivery
( fixed or mobile ), urban environment, suburban or rural, mimo,
diversity
YMMV is always the case with wimax. :)
-
Jeff
On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:01 AM, CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
Patrick,
If not 70 miles and 30
Chuck,
Airspan / Aperto are both shipping 5x Ghz wimax products.
Throughput is about 26mb peak for the Airspan product on 10mhz
channels, and 22mb on the Aperto product in 7mhz channels. Also, there
are ways to get around the exclusion zones, if you find out who the
licenseholders are.
Chris... I'm agreeing with you when I say that what I was trying to get
across is that there is opportunity for smaller operators even when the
giant operators are around, and even in your area, and even charging less
than you are.
You have to understand your market(s) and take risks sometimes.
Anyone doing a 20 MHz channel?
Would that be enough capacity to allow for typical oversubscription on say a
10 meg client?
What does it cost to get the first AP up ($5k, $15k, $50k)?
What does it cost to get additional APs up ($2k, $10k, $30k)?
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
That is pretty much what we do on Motorola Canopy.
20 MHz channels.
128:1 (or less) over subscription
10 Mbps
First AP and BH would be in the $5K range
Second AP would be in the $2K range. (depending on antennas etc).
We are waiting to see what the OFDM product will do. Smaller channels.
More
Chuck,
What speeds do you sell to your end customers at 128:1 oversub?
(I am assuming that you never really go this high!) :)
ryan
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:33 PM
To: WISPA General
We sell 10.2 Mbps burst service. And most of them actually get that speed.
If they start streaming or downloading a large file, we throttle them down.
Most are at 768.
When the stream or download stops, they go back to wide open throttle.
Customers love it.
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From:
What do you use for throttling? Cisco policing? Mikrotik?
Chuck McCown wrote:
We sell 10.2 Mbps burst service. And most of them actually get that speed.
If they start streaming or downloading a large file, we throttle them down.
Most are at 768.
When the stream or download stops, they
It is built into the Motorola Canopy platform. The AP and the SM do the
throttling.
- Original Message -
From: Randy Cosby
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Future
What do you use for throttling? Cisco policing? Mikrotik?
Mike, et al,
As Jeff implied about coverage (and costs), with WiMAX it is all about
diversity so let me try to explain it a bit. It is not so simple as one
AP or two. In WiMAX you have IDUs and ODUs. In our case, one IDU can
serve many different configurations since it have 4 ports on the IDU and
So what does all the below mean in practice? Well, a typical
arrangement, at least for our customers, in the 2.5 GHz band is 3
sectors of 4th order diversity. That means one chassis with 3 blades.
Each of the blades has 4 ports. All 4 ports are used. That translates
into three AU IDUs and 12 ODUs
I have made a brief ppt that illustrates the examples below much more
clearly. It has no product info, no messaging and no detailed
explanations...it is just a pictorial representation of the below type
of diversity. If you want it, hit me OFFLIST.
Patrick
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From: [EMAIL
Senate Considers Striking Down 'Common Carrier' Exception
The wireless industry is expected to fight hard against repealing a rule
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By Richard Martin
InformationWeek
April 14, 2008 01:42 PM
Seeking to
Well Mike, the way I see it is that the sky has been falling my entire time
as an ISP (over a decade now).
WiMax is still a joke in the market place.
3G is too slow and too expensive.
700 is not deployed in any level that matters and doesn't look like it will
be any time soon.
Cable is in
I just got back a customer that left us for sat service. Took less than a
year for him to come back (and he left because he got mad at me, not because
of the service so you know the service had to really suck).
marlon
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From: Tom Warfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA
You're doing all those (including price) on Canopy? What's the net
throughput available on Canopy?
I'm not dissatisfied with my Mikrotik system at all, but more spectrally
efficient gear is always good, especially on new deployments.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
oh, I was meaning a regular 10 meg service.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
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