Re: [WISPA] free optics / MRV's Terescope soln

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: It's pretty hard to beat plaintree. As for backup radios, use good switches with spanning tree and put in your own radios backup link. Interesting, I might try that. BelAir Networks' switched radio mesh uses RSTP (or something very similar)

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Frank Muto wrote: Then you should be working with a reseller/distributor like us. Some of the services do require an annual fee, but none that require a minimum 3-year commitment. At 60k emails, plus using Exchange; you are at a whole different level of resources even with Barracuda,

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Travis Johnson wrote: We have been a Postini customer since their first year in business. Once you outsource that part of it, you wonder how you ever did it before. Right now it is probably saving us at least 10Mbps of bandwidth, which in our area is over $500 per month. We also charge

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com http://www.untangle.com/ it is free to install on any server. I have a Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I don't even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Mike Hammett
When will we see your equipment? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
UPDATE I just got done messing with that Untangled garbage. It has absolutely no way to configure anything. It is basically setup so all you have to do is plug it in line as a bridge and hope that it does what you want cause you can't configure it for crap. So back to the cuda. I tell you that I

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Mike Hammett
I couldn't find a page that had this spec spelled out, and I'm sure once I do see it, it'll be way too dry to keep my focus for more than 20 seconds. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Eric Merkel
We use the barracuda's and are gennerrally happy with the performance . We're running 500K plus thru a pair of 400's. We have had performance issues at times but if you pay for their instant replacement they'll swap out your hardware. What I find somewhat bogus is the 400 they sold us a couple

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Frank Muto
That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource the AS/AV and take the load off of your systems. Your current

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
This is an age old argumentkeep it inhouse or outsource ? Outsource works very well as long as you have the right kind of (good match) outsource partner, and in-house works well is you are looking for full control and have extra available manpower to spare. Keep in mind that out-source does

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Frank Muto
I look at it this way, usage is up and there is more junk coming in now than pre-2003 and even more so from 2005. Broadband speeds and increased PC horse power, are allowing faster access for the customer, but also for the spammer/hacker. IMO, for anyone using Wi-Fi and also VOIP, taking the

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Scottie Arnett
Cheap P3 700Mhz Dell, Install Debian with Postfix, MailScanner, Spamassassin, Razor, Dcc, Pyzor, Clamav, and a few choice others if you wish. Have it relay to your internal mail server, and have internal not receive any email except from Debian box. Make sure you have a way to transfer all

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread tonylist
Mike It is a bit too early to say right now, once the MAC is done we will have a better idea. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WISPA] 802.11y future and vendors?

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
A friend and I are looking into the future of 802.11y as well as vendors who support it. Does anyone have any thoughts on this in either of these two areas? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Scottie Arnett
The barracuda should do all the checks it can before the bandwidth is every used. If its not, ditch it and go with the setup I mentioned earlier. There are many checks that can be done to verify a legit email before it ever leaves the sending email server to consume any bandwidth. Scott

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Eric Merkel wrote: We use the barracuda's and are gennerrally happy with the performance . We're running 500K plus thru a pair of 400's. We have had performance issues at times but if you pay for their instant replacement they'll swap out your hardware. What I find somewhat bogus is the 400

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Scottie Arnett wrote: Cheap P3 700Mhz Dell, Install Debian with Postfix, MailScanner, Spamassassin, Razor, Dcc, Pyzor, Clamav, and a few choice others if you wish. Have it relay to your internal mail server, and have internal not receive any email except from Debian box. Make sure you have

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Frank Muto
Outbound is not as much trouble, unless of course a customer has a virus, than inbound. Just how would the Cuda box do any checks without receiving a message? You still have all those connections coming in, so the problem still exists. Frank - Original Message - From: Scottie

Re: [WISPA] 802.11y future and vendors?

2008-06-30 Thread tonylist
We are looking into this now, it looks like it can all me done in the MAC/HAL the way the spec is done but it's still a wait and see. We are looking at ways to do more of a pre-802.11y, as long as it passes the FCC muster we are good. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless

Re: [WISPA] 802.11y future and vendors?

2008-06-30 Thread Harold Bledsoe
But that's the million dollar question. Will the FCC approve it if it is not 802.11y? I read somewhere that the FCC was waiting for 802.11y to be approved before authorizing equipment in the upper part of the 3.65 band. Otherwise, yes it is technically possible to implement this with atheros

[WISPA] 3650 PtP equipment

2008-06-30 Thread Jason Hensley
I think we had a thread on this awhile back, maybe not, but is there anyone offering a 3650 PtP product? Is there enough interest in this to maybe prompt a manf. to get busy on this? For me, I need a move my backhauls out of the messy and noisy 5ghz and this would be ideal. I don't have any

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Jason Hensley
I've been very pleased with ModusMail/Gate (www.vircom.com). Great products and very effective. I'm running modusMail for my primary server and modusGate for filtering some business MS Exchange customers. WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 3650 PtP equipment

2008-06-30 Thread Bo Ring
LigoWave is planning one, but has not announced any details. This is from their website: LigoPTP devices provide high throughput, Point-to-Point connectivity for backhaul applications on a variety of frequencies. With LigoWave's proprietary software mechanism utilizing Selective Repeat ARQ

[WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz. I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked). Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this? WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Bo Ring
You must have a license to operate in 3.65 in America. On Jun 30, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Rogelio wrote: Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz. I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked). Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?

Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Chuck McCown
What is unlicensed 3.65? I have a license. - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz. I told him I

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Tony, Real throughput requires that much per sector. That is incorrect. It requires that much per sector when the sector is a wide beam PtMP sector, and when there is tons of interference because the band is shared by many. If one provider controls 20Mhz, spectrum reuse can be engineered very

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
WISPs need to be able to deploy 10 megabit plus pipes to the home. No they don't. WISPs need to deploy 10mbps pipes to homes in order to compete equally with Cable Cos and RBOCs. I serve many neighborhoods today, with 900Mhz inteference haven, and they are glad I'm there. 30% of America

Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Gino Villarini
Good point Unlicensed 3.65 does not exist, Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:28 PM To:

[WISPA] ekahau for missing children

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
On a conference call today, someone asked if I knew of a solution that a large theme park chain might use to locate missing children. (Not really knowing the market, I (off the cuff) suggested they look at Ekahau. But I told them that wasn't my thing and that I'd have to connect them with

Re: [WISPA] ekahau for missing children

2008-06-30 Thread Jack Unger
Roger, I'm not an expert but you are basically on the mark. Ekahau or other location-based systems should be able to track children if the children are wearing active Wi-Fi tags. jack Rogelio wrote: On a conference call today, someone asked if I knew of a solution that a large theme park

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread David E. Smith
Frank Muto wrote: Outbound is not as much trouble, unless of course a customer has a virus, than inbound. Just how would the Cuda box do any checks without receiving a message? You still have all those connections coming in, so the problem still exists. About 90% of our email is stopped by

Re: [WISPA] ekahau for missing children

2008-06-30 Thread Forrest W Christian
The other thought I might have would be to give each kid an RFID tag, and then strategically set up the RFID readers throughout the park. I can also think of lots of interesting data you could gather as a theme park owner about patron habits if each was carrying a RFID tag... -forrest

Re: [WISPA] ekahau for missing children

2008-06-30 Thread Gino Villarini
That wold require the whole park to be wifi enabled, wouldn't a portable 3g/gps type of thing would be more reliable? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Scottie Arnett
I have no idea how the Cuda works, so it may do some of these. It could (SHOULD) make sure that the email to be delivered is to a valid email on the system, make sure that the domain to be sent from is a valid domain, make sure the domain or IP is not listed in the RBL's, etc... All this can be

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Charles Wyble
Tom DeReggi wrote: WISPs need to be able to deploy 10 megabit plus pipes to the home. People's 25 Mhz 3650 now becomes 45Mhz, when they combine 2155 with 3650. What is 2155? This is the second mention I have seen of it (both are on this thread). Google doesn't turn up much at a

Re: [WISPA] 3650 PtP equipment

2008-06-30 Thread Randy Cosby
Is their 900 mhz stuff fcc certified? Randy Bo Ring wrote: LigoWave is planning one, but has not announced any details. This is from their website: LigoPTP devices provide high throughput, Point-to-Point connectivity for backhaul applications on a variety of frequencies. With LigoWave's

Re: [WISPA] 3650 PtP equipment

2008-06-30 Thread Matt Hardy
Hi Randy, Yes, the LigoWave 900MHz products are all FCC certified. -Matt On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:26 -0600, Randy Cosby wrote: Is their 900 mhz stuff fcc certified? Randy Bo Ring wrote: LigoWave is planning one, but has not announced any details. This is from their website:

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread tonylist
Tom You are still thinking like an 802.11 only protocol :) I can see you have your mind set, once things get closer to having real product then this would be a more valuable thread, until then! Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583

[WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-06-30 Thread tonylist
Update from the FCC. This makes is very clear to me what the FCC is looking for, if there are any questions or comments feel free. Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com Tony: Thank you for

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Scott Lambert
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:59:38AM -0400, Frank Muto wrote: That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with integrated spam/virus (AS/AV) with IMAP/POP3/Webmail options, or outsource

Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread David Peterson
Have them contact me offlist. We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in 3.65GHz. David Peterson WirelessGuys Inc. 805-578-8590 On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz. I told him I didn't know if that was available (but

Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
David Peterson wrote: Have them contact me offlist. We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in 3.65GHz. Unlicensed? Which vendors? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Dustin Jurman
A while back Jack Unger explained how to get your product and antenna through FCC licensing (Certified System). If you are doing this and you have UBNT radio's then I believe he said that the costs of certification could be less because you would only have to do a mini certification. I also

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread Frank Muto
- Original Message - From: Scott Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 08:59:38AM -0400, Frank Muto wrote: That still puts pressure on the system resources. As a wireless provider you have enough on your plate to deal with. Options include, outsourcing email with

Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda

2008-06-30 Thread George Rogato
Frank Muto wrote: Don't get me wrong, Barracuda makes a fine appliance and comparing them to a hosted solution with far greater processing power, 7 global data centers and 14 redundant systems, now with the strength of Google's cash and server farms, is two different things. Frank