Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread reader
Comments inline insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction But when 802.11 became easy it

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Blake Bowers
Removing a barrier is the only hope that HAM radio has. Come on, in the 50's 60's, 70's CW was still cool, and we could introduce youth into talking to far away places on HF. Now, with technology being what it is, the Internet has removed all kewlness of HF. Look at the average age of HAMS,

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Blake Bowers
The entry level code requirement and tech plus license was created in 1991. In 1997 there were 678,473 licensed in 2001 there were 682,240 licensed in 2008 there were 659,198 licensed. Thats a decrease. Even the FCC states that after the most recent license changes eliminating the CW

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Jack Unger
That's a rather insignificant decrease of 2.8%. I'd say that's pretty good over an 11-year period during which Internet use increased greatly. A 2.8% decrease proves nothing and even if it did, anyone who thinks that a 2.8% change gives one group new spectrum rights over a group that already

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Lance Jahnke
It comes down to this.. Amateur Radio operators are licensed and Part 15 users are not. If you want to guarantee yourself minimal interference, then you must use the licensed part of the RF spectrum. I do believe that hams and part 15's can coexist with a little communication and the

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Someone had mentioned on another list that ISM is above part 97 in 900 MHz. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Victoria Proffer
I have had to deal with a similar situation. I talked to the guy and told him that he was causing interference in our network. I gave him a free internet account and he only uses his radio one hour a week, with prior notice. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Larry Yunker
Jerry, As with all good legal questions, the answer is: It Depends. If the HAM operator is INTENTIONALLY interfering with your signal, then you have a very good chance of maintaining a cause of action against him (IMHO). If on the other hand, he was unaware of your signal at the time that he put

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Jack Unger
Victoria, That sounds like an excellent solution. I would hope that all WISPs would follow your example. jack Victoria Proffer wrote: I have had to deal with a similar situation. I talked to the guy and told him that he was causing interference in our network. I gave him a free internet

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
I determined the best course of action is to upgrade the antennas and re-assign frequencies customer AP re-assignments. 900 is getting crowded and eventually I will likely have to abandon the frequency. I'm not going to make a big stink about this one only to have to deal with it again in six

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Tim Kerns
Jerry, From where you are located, I believe you are being hit by a new repeater on Mt Diablo. It seems the HAMs were using another freq and it was interfering with military operations. They kept reducing power til it was down to nothing. They then decided to use 900 mhz, it is only going to

Re: [WISPA] was -- Court Injunction --- now ham radio

2008-08-05 Thread Brian Webster
Having been in the commercial wireless industry since 1990 and a ham as well, here are my perspectives on the state of ham radio today: There has always been pressure on the hams for their spectrum, and always will be as long as money is involved. A decline in hamfests should not be the only way

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Blake Bowers
Jack, Don't get me wrong - I am not advocating any relinquishing of spectrum from HAM use. I will say that if we don't get more into the hobby, there will be more and more pressure for the FCC to reallocate spectrum, as they have in the past. It may seem like a small drop, but when you figure

[WISPA] New in Box: 5.2 Adv Canopy AP, 5.2 Advantage Cyclone Omni AP

2008-08-05 Thread John McDowell
Best offer. Thanks -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
They already added the bigger amp. They worked with me by trying to move to 919 however it's too noisy for their purposes so they will be moving back to 910. This will affect 906 and 915. 924 is virtually unusable so things will be interesting. I was just wondering if there was any legal

[WISPA] MTI 120 12dB Vs Canopy Integrated

2008-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Can anyone comment on the potential performance increase of the MTI 120* 12.5dB H-POL sector vs the Canopy Integrated 60degree? Specs are all pretty equal with the exception of the pattern. Seems with narrower vertical I should see less ground scatter. Jerry Richardson VP Operations

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I've seen it suggested several times and maybe I missed your reply but, have you talked to him? Brian Jerry Richardson wrote: I determined the best course of action is to upgrade the antennas and re-assign frequencies customer AP re-assignments. 900 is getting crowded and eventually I will

Re: [WISPA] MTI 120 12dB Vs Canopy Integrated

2008-08-05 Thread Matt Jenkins
I have both here in the shop but have never tested the two side by side. I can try to run some tests with them if you want, but am not sure what you would want tested or how. - Matt Jerry Richardson wrote: Can anyone comment on the potential performance increase of the MTI 120* 12.5dB H-POL

[WISPA] Pathloss 4

2008-08-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Anyone on the list using Pathloss 4? Just trying to figure out if the money is really worth it. Thanks! Daniel White 3-dB Networks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Yes. --- airCloud Communications Jerry Richardson 925-260-4119 Sent Mobile -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
They tried another freq but its not working out. Basically their position is that I am a guest, deal with it. --- airCloud Communications Jerry Richardson 925-260-4119 Sent Mobile -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4

2008-08-05 Thread Charles Wu
I'll be more than happy to sell you my copy =) Uh...think that answers the question... -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4

2008-08-05 Thread John Seaman
We use it every day for running path profiles and microwave reliability estimates for customers... I would say we definitely got our money's worth. John Seaman Trango Broadband -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I prefer RadioMobile. - Original Message - From: John Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pathloss 4 We use it every day for running path profiles and microwave reliability estimates for

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Rick Fletcher, W7RAF
That's like saying that giving people drivers licenses who have no experience driving a horse team is producing bad drivers. Some of the worst hams I've encountered were old timers with great fists on a key. The CW requirement never filtered out bad operators any more than rigid testing of one's

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Rick Fletcher, W7RAF
Chuck, I hope you'll consider going after that Extra now. It's never too late... Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
So I guess you, as a WISP, must be operating solely on licensed frequencies? - Original Message - From: Rick Fletcher, W7RAF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction If a wireless ISP

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Have to take the written again. I guess if I had a manual to bone up on the freqs and regs and a test session close by... naw, too lazy. - Original Message - From: Rick Fletcher, W7RAF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:16 PM

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Rick Fletcher, W7RAF
After a major change like dropping the CW requirement, it always takes a while for the word to get out but that's finally happening. All the VE's (Volunteer Examiners) I know across the country tell me that they've seen a huge increase in testees and class attendees in the past 6-8 months, not

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Rick Fletcher, W7RAF
Not at all, but I do recognize my limited 'privileges' as an unlicensed user. I also know how to mitigate many of the sources of interference I encounter. In the end, I went into this knowing that what I was doing was somewhat akin to driving without insurance and the risk of operating

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread RickG
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Victoria Proffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had to deal with a similar situation. I talked to the guy and told him that he was causing interference in our network. I gave him a free internet account and he only uses his radio one hour a week, with prior

[WISPA] Any Juniper Experts?

2008-08-05 Thread Jake VanDewater
I have just acquired some Juniper router admin duties. I'm in need of doing some one-to-one static NAT translations. Is there anyone out there that can give me some guidance? (Swapping out with a MT is not an option right now) _

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Mike Hammett
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_centimeters#The_beginning -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Motorola Canopy User

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
The industrial, scientific and medical (ISM) radio bands were originally reserved internationally for the use of RF electromagnetic fields for industrial, scientific and medical purposes other than communications. So, other than communications were primary, then HAM, then Part -15. My 25 kW

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Matt
By the way, we have been up there for 4 years - this HAM only recently increased the power in the last three weeks. What are they using the 900 band for? Voice, video or what? Are they bleeding into any cell towers nearby with that much power? Is this a small community? Matt

[WISPA] polling

2008-08-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I would like to start a quick list of the wireless radio's available today that have some type of polling system. Here are the ones I can think of quickly... please add this list: Canopy Trango Alvarion Mikrotik thanks, Travis Microserv

Re: [WISPA] IP based security system

2008-08-05 Thread Joshua Rowe
I currenty have a customer that is using Intellinet 550710 cameras, the quality is acceptable and the cost is reasonable. The cameras have lifetime warranties and interchangable lenses (wide angle, zoom, etc.) Motion detection built in, however I use motion detection built into the camera

Re: [WISPA] IP based security system

2008-08-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Outdoor rated? How much power do they need? - Original Message - From: Joshua Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based security system I currenty have a customer that is using Intellinet 550710 cameras, the

Re: [WISPA] IP based security system

2008-08-05 Thread Tom Sharples
Best quality outdoor-rated IP cams are the megapixel-sensor units made by Mobotix. We use them in our installations whenever possible. They are expensive, but well worth it - one Mobotix cam can do the work of 4 ordinary ones. You can see the image quality on our website, and you can buy them