Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave 200 Mb FD Link For Sale

2008-12-01 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
will that do 26 miles? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Dragonwave 23 GHz Airpair all outdoor link available for sale that is being taken down this week. It is complete with 2' dishes and power supplies. It has been in service for about 1 year without issue. The link is 200 MB full

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
There deals clear down to $7/meg. Ask vendors for a 2 year contract, GigE 100 Mbps burstable. - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Chuck the issue with most people isn't the cost per meg at the port I've found $5/meg at the port the issue is getting it from the port to your NOC. :( Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: There deals clear down to $7/meg. Ask vendors for a 2 year contract, GigE 100 Mbps

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
My whole goal is to get people to think outside of buying T1s from Ma Bell. I'd assume your network goes close to 131, where there's fiber to be had. I'm not sure how close Brian's comes to 131, but if you guys can get on the same fiber out of town, that's be great. A 20 year IRU on fiber is

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...

2008-12-01 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I am currently all set. I connect to another WISP, Michwave, (Jon Langeler posts here every so often) and he is connected to norlight. So I am already on fiber. I have a 7 mile and a 19 mile hop to get this done. Brian Mike Hammett wrote: My whole goal is to get people to think outside of

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I knew Jon was in Michigan, but I didn't know exactly where. Jon did all of the hard work. By partnering up with area WISPs, you never know what opportunities may arise. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, I know. But that is getting cheaper all the time. If you get the $5 deal, perhaps there is an ATM cloud in the city you can use to wholesale in the city to defray part of the cost and get you as far out of town as possible. If you give it away at cost or just a bit above just to help

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Wow starting with a full T1 we started with a 256k fractional T1 from the local university that was part of WestNet. ;) Travis Microserv Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, I know. But that is getting cheaper all the time. If you get the $5 deal, perhaps there is an ATM cloud in the city you

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Randy Cosby
Heh... We started with Westnet here too! Those were the days. Then MCI, then Sprint... Never heard of Qwest in those days. Randy Travis Johnson wrote: Wow starting with a full T1 we started with a 256k fractional T1 from the local university that was part of WestNet. ;) Travis

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Mark Nash
I'm having a heck of a time finding providers in my area (Eugene, OR) from which I can backhaul to my network. Anyone know of a good site or have contacts for people who could quote in my area? We're looking for 30-40 megs at this point, but if we COULD get these 100meg ports at a reasonable

[WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
How far will an airpair at 23GHz shoot? Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Depending on your region (due to rainfall), I would guess somewhere from 1 mile (Texas) to 10 miles (Idaho). :) Travis Microserv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: How far will an airpair at 23GHz shoot? Brian

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
10 miles with a big dish I am guessing? On 12/1/08, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on your region (due to rainfall), I would guess somewhere from 1 mile (Texas) to 10 miles (Idaho). :) Travis Microserv Brian Rohrbacher wrote: How far will an airpair at 23GHz shoot?

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Brad Belton
Ha! You just love rub'n that in don'tcha Travis! lol Brad From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range Depending on your region (due to rainfall),

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Not sure what you mean by "big" I have a 7 mile 38ghz link with 2ft dishes that runs at 99.9%. :) Travis Josh Luthman wrote: 10 miles with a big dish I am guessing? On 12/1/08, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depending on your region (due to rainfall), I would

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
You answered my question =) By big I mean a six footer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Travis Johnson [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Qwest was the merger of US West and Qwest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwest - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:05 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Comcast, Global Crossing, Level(3), Electric Lightwave, and 360 Networks have POPs in your town. I might look more later, but I figure that's a good place to start. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com --

[WISPA] CCIE friend in VA looking for work

2008-12-01 Thread Rogelio
My apologies if this is not the best place to do this, but a very cool associate and former coworker of mine lives in Richmond, Virginia and is looking for work. He's a CCIE, is with wireless technologies (wi-fi, 3G, GSM, 4.9/5.9, WiMax), and has great account handling skills, particularly on

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Brad how about my latest one? 32 miles with 18ghz (+19db) radios with 2ft dishes. Availability shows 99.99% (31 minutes per year total outage)... but we have a 5.8ghz backup link as well. ;) Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: Ha! You just love rub'n that in don'tcha Travis! lol

[WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread Drew Lentz
From Wall Street Journal today: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122809560499668087.html ³Outgoing Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin Martin is pushing for action in December on a plan to offer free, pornography-free wireless Internet service to all Americans, despite objections from

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Most impressive, thanks for sharing the info. Must be nice to be in Idaho =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM,

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
If they pay me enough I'll do it despite objections from the wireless industry and some consumer groups. Nothing like a big middle finger to the WISPs of the USA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, the long links are nice... but the downside is we pay double for our bandwidth... so I guess it's a wash... :) Travis Josh Luthman wrote: Most impressive, thanks for sharing the info. Must be nice to be in Idaho =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
Is there a central resource for this type of information? -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*:

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
Sorry for the delay in my response... had my hard drive crash over the weekend (on a side note does anyone have any recommendations for hard drive data recovery, not everything was backed up!). Anyways something is off if that is the quote you just got. Either they are giving you the special

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
Brad, That's fair if it reduces cost. In general I'd rather not have it... but in general you shouldn't have to mess with the ODU on the tower (all of the ODU's were installed in the wrong polarization when I got there). The waveguides were installed by a tech support tech I heard...

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
Here was my thought. One they are attached with those latches, which are pretty heavy duty to me. Second, the dish assembly does not weigh that much, and I didn't feel I was doing any harm. I was only using it with the dish assembly very loosely bolted to the tower... I don't think I was

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Randy Cosby
Yeah, I know. It was just a happier time when they didn't exist is what I was trying to say :) Randy Mike Hammett wrote: Qwest was the merger of US West and Qwest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwest - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread reader
Who gets what in return? insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
Here is my philosophy... you don't need to know the conversion. The idea is to peak the dish as best as possible, if that is above our below the target RSSI its really not something you can fix on the tower besides alignment. Side lobes are just as easy to see with the voltmeter in my opinion.

[WISPA] Cisco 2955

2008-12-01 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone used one of these? Seems like a very nice, rugged switch. We used one for a solar site recently and it appears to be having some serious issues (dying) recently - we are assuming from voltage fluctuations. We're using a 12-24v regulated dc converter and powering it on the 24 v side.

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have personally noticed that at least on smaller dishes (3ft and lower) Andrew dishes seem to bolt up to smaller pipes... I don't know if Trango ships with Andrew dishes... but maybe a consideration in the future... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

2008-12-01 Thread Jerry Richardson
I have not used one, but being a Cisco I would think that it would be rock solid. We've started using MOXA switches and so far rock solid. Plus having two 24VDC inputs helps me sleep at night. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Mac Dearman
I wouldn't mind living in Idaho if it were next to Louisiana :) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range Most

Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

2008-12-01 Thread Gino Villarini
Maybe is the converter? The 2955 is rated to accept 18 - 32 vdc .. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday,

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Not really. Years of research on my own behalf. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Hammett
ah, okay. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming

Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I have no Cisco network gear of myself but I have several customers that have gone through multiple routers and switches in the last 6 months. Can't give you any models specifically but I know they were in the four and five digit price point. Replaced by a Routerboard in case anyone is

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Travis Johnson
It will go that far... the question is how much down time do you want? ;) Where are you located? What is the power output of the radios? What size dishes? Travis Matt wrote: Brad how about my latest one? 32 miles with 18ghz (+19db) radios with 2ft dishes. Availability shows

Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

2008-12-01 Thread Randy Cosby
More research proves you are probably right. the converter we have shuts down - or quits converting - at 11v. Recent storms have let batteries get that low a couple times. Ordering a new converter today that will go down to 7.5 v and adding more solar panels soon. Randy Gino Villarini

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread John Scrivner
If Google would start a partnership program where service providers could offer a free Internet service in exchange for a revenue split with Google for ads inserted into web content streams then we would have a viable option for delivering free Internet. Google has the technology to make this

Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

2008-12-01 Thread Adam Goodman
I doubt you 2955 will run at 7.5 VDC. Specs indicate 18 - 32VDC. I would think you need a 24VDC power source and not a 12VDC. I am surprised it ran at 12V (or 14 on a fully charged battery) On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More research proves you are

Re: [WISPA] Cisco 2955

2008-12-01 Thread Randy Cosby
It was a 24v source, (up-converted from 12v), but when the batteries dropped to 11 v the upconverter shut off and pushed out only 11 (instead of 24), and yeah, it didn't work and may have corrupted something. Randy Adam Goodman wrote: I doubt you 2955 will run at 7.5 VDC. Specs indicate 18 -

[WISPA] Next step in the bit torrent arms race

2008-12-01 Thread Jon Auer
Upset about Bell Canada's system for allocating bandwidth fairly among internet users, the developers of the uTorrent P2P application have decided to make the UDP protocol the default transport protocol for file transfers. BitTorrent implementations have long used UDP to exchange tracker

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread Jack Unger
FCC chairman Kevin Martin gets a lot of free publicity for a goal that can't be met by an legitimate wireless business. As far as I'm concerned, it's nothing more than blatant political posturing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who gets what in return? insert

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread jp
100% political pandering. Let's continue work on getting Internet of any sort to all of America, first. That's not gonna happen for free. On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 12:20:44PM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: If they pay me enough I'll do it despite objections from the wireless industry and some

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex

2008-12-01 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
http://www.stellarinfo.com I use this program and have had great success. Brian 3-dB Networks wrote: Sorry for the delay in my response... had my hard drive crash over the weekend (on a side note does anyone have any recommendations for hard drive data recovery, not everything was backed

Re: [WISPA] Dragonwave Range

2008-12-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
Not sure what planet you guys are living on. I guess it must be a near desert no-rain zone. In our D2 rain zone... For 99.999%, 256QAM, we count on... 23Ghz (1ft) up to 1 mile 18Ghz (3ft) up to 4 miles. (I might be a bit conservative or off on this number, but 99. is at 3.5miles) 11 Ghz

[WISPA] Hotspot page

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik gateways. For reasons I can't mention here I need to find another solution. The only requirements I have is that I can generate timecodes (basically randomly named users with no passwords) and a reasonably customizable page in

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

2008-12-01 Thread Charles
Check out sputnick. --Original Message-- From: Josh Luthman Sender: To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot page Sent: Dec 1, 2008 4:11 PM I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik gateways. For reasons I can't mention

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

2008-12-01 Thread Jerry Richardson
We were with Sputnik for a while, but they fell short in many ways. We are now with SilverLining http://www.silverliningnetworks.com/ __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] Next step in the bit torrent arms race

2008-12-01 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Mr. Imagestream, Mr. MAC, good place for a packet control add... It works! Even on udp! Packets is packets. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
If at all possible I would like to stick with Mikrotik - I'm looking for a replacement hotspot page and radius management frontend rather then equipment. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned

Re: [WISPA] Next step in the bit torrent arms race

2008-12-01 Thread Mac Dearman
Chuck, Whatcha think of packet limiting? :) It works eh? Saves my hind end daily!! I have found that these MikroCore routers do a great job as well - - same philosophy - - different hardware. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

2008-12-01 Thread Matt Jenkins
You might want to try BlueDotWifi.com. I know the developers since they are local to me. I am sure if you have something specific you need added or some support that is needed they can provide it. - Matt Josh Luthman wrote: I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik

[WISPA] Alerts

2008-12-01 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
I'm wondering what other operators use to keep their NOC staff or themselves informed regarding current outside the network conditions that could affect their ISP operations. Conditions such as: -Severe weather -News alerts -Major Internet events (fiber cuts, peering disputes, etc.) I

[WISPA] Eugene Fiber

2008-12-01 Thread John Thomas
Did this ever happen? http://media.www.dailyemerald.com/media/storage/paper859/news/2001/07/12/UndefinedSection/Eweb-Will.Forge.Ahead.With.FiberOptic.Metronet-1974474.shtml Is this of value? http://www.pcinw.com/news/company_news.html John Mark Nash wrote: I'm having a heck of a time finding

Re: [WISPA] Alerts

2008-12-01 Thread Jerry Richardson
We refer to MESO West for weather status. Happes there is a monitor station on the same mountain we are on. http://www.met.utah.edu/jhorel/html/mesonet/ __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Alerts

2008-12-01 Thread Jon Auer
In addition to following the NANOG and outages.org lists on our Blackberries we have a computer in the office with three monitors on it showing our Nagios network status map, the Weather Underground animated radar map for our area, and Keynote's Internet Health Report (

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

2008-12-01 Thread Mike Delp
Have you looked at Mikrotik? User Manager can be set up to handle the Authentication, and can generate user accounts. ( It will even print cards with generated user/pass) We have seen success with User Manager handling PPPOE and Hotspot client requests (Up to the licens limit for number of