Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Jack Unger
No, I believe some do not understand it yet... someday they will however. Mike Hammett wrote: I thought we all understood subtraction. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jack Unger Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:40 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Jack Unger
One valid point within a cloud of self-rightous bullsh*t does not a wise person make. Mike Hammett wrote: Mark does make valid points (not all), but they're often clouded by things other people don't want to listen to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread reader
Hmmm.. What I have been trying to get across here is that since everyone and their dog is dashing to DC with buckets to beg at the taxpayer's blood draw, we as an industry could stand out by saying the broadband industry does not need bailing out or any federal money. In fact, we should be

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
AnimalFarm converts Sheep to Pigs! - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article I'm not saying we should do what Mark says, I'm not even saying Mark is right

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread reader
Actually NOT believing in business swilling at the feet of the federal sow, sucking up the future blood of future taxpayers is 'self righteous bull Gotcha. Damn. I thought we were Americans. Turns out we're get every dollar you can from any where you can suckling pigs. I am disgusted.

[WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread reader
Do any of you provide backup data services to your broadband clients as a value added or revenue improving service? Was it a success or failure? insert witty tagline here WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
I guess we need to define large... :-) You also need to look at the region I know best... for WISP's over say 1000 customers in the State of Colorado... only one WISP operational in say 2006 on had over 1000 customers and was using anything but Canopy... and now they are swapping out their Trango

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Bob Moldashel
Wow Bitch and complain about WISPA's position and actions (your view) and complain about sucking up for federal funds but you are real quick to use this WISPA sponsored and paid for list for your own self benefit. Talk about self-righteous bullshit! Practice what you preach dude! Go jump

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Maybe he took his frog meds... - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services? Wow Bitch and complain about WISPA's position and

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread lakeland
Marlon I know you guys out there in the woods are a little behind but a whole day behind!!! Com'on dude. Its the fifth. If you don't change it now you are gonna be late for Christmas and boy is your family gonna be pissed!!! LOL Change the clock on that 486 machine already -B- Sent from my

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaping (WAS Article)

2008-12-05 Thread eje
Doing something like that myself. We deliver bandwidth to a apartment complex with students mainly. We charge them good because I know they will use it all. Think my cost today is not quit 200 per mbit so they pay 250 at least per mbit. Then I have another customer that I know will today not

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaping (WAS Article)

2008-12-05 Thread Steve Barnes
Josh, I want to thank you for your posts on this thread. They have been very helpful and enlightening. Do you build the queues at the tower router or at the edge router. I have the Idea that it would be great to build the inbound/download queues at the edge and outbound/upload queue at the

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Steve Barnes
Isn't it about time to kill this thread. There is no love here, there is a bunch of ranting and posturing that does not help this organization. We all do the best we can in our own world of influence. What I believe may not be what anyone else believes and I have the right to state it ONCE. If

Re: [WISPA] Need 12-24 constant volt converter ASAP

2008-12-05 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks, found one at Mouser that looks like it will fit the bill. http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=NVD24SC12virtualkey6180virtualkey618-NVD24SC12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need more power... those batteries are too discharged. But, the dc to dc converter... try

Re: [WISPA] Need 12-24 constant volt converter ASAP

2008-12-05 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks, they also had one I could use, so I ordered it as well for backup: http://www.zaneinc.com/user/Ds-avd-l.pdf D. Ryan Spott wrote: Backwoods solar might have what you need. ryan -Original Message- From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:01 PM

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Coming from an agricultural background, yes, sheep are the worst thing to be! :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Indeed leasing is hard to get. I haven't tried recently and maybe I will this spring, but it was easier for me to get a revolving line of credit at my bank (and later a non-revolving line of credit) from my bank than to get a lease on anything. Some lessors will only work with certain brands

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaping (WAS Article)

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
It'd probably be easier to use BGP to determine their IP blocks, since they could be all over Limelight's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I do, but I'm not happy with the provider I chose. He just uses someone else's software, but it has so many files that it errors on, it's ridiculous I have to manually remove that file from the backup set and try again. With over a half million files... - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Come on, Bob. Was that really necessary? There was nothing in this particular thread to attack. If you have a problem with Mark, leave it in the threads where he posts things you object to... unless you think backup services are self-righteous. After all, whose ass does backing up save?

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hey buddy I'm out here in NoWhere, Idaho and we have over 5,000 wireless subs and I am proud to say NO CANOPY radios. :) And, just to give you an idea that we do know what we are doing, we have three OC3's worth of bandwidth (465Mbps) coming into our NOC. We offer wireless, DSL, fiber, T1

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
But between 1 and 1000 subs what were your bandwidth packages and what was your competition? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Dec 5,

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Do you have 5,000 wireless subs Travis? :-) And I'm not saying you don't know what your doing. or even a WISP that has 300 customers doesn't know what they are doing (hey I just got on Charles about saying a WISP that small was a hobby. although I understand the point he is trying to make).

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I would also like to hear answers to Mark's question because I have looked at backup a little. Mike Hammett wrote: Come on, Bob. Was that really necessary? There was nothing in this particular thread to attack. If you have a problem with Mark, leave it in the threads where he posts

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Charles
Check out using Amanda and s3 for backups. Works like a charm. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:42:32 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system

2008-12-05 Thread Tim Barker
Hi Tom, Thanks for the great feedback. See comments below. Tim On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Tim, Now that you have made your shameless self promotion sales pitch :-) I thought I'd scrutinize your comments, palying devils advocate :-) I have not

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Charles Wyble
snip a super long e-mail I have a question. How do you have so much time to write these really long e-mails on a regular basis? Do you have that much free time? If so do you think it could be better invested in improving your WISP? It seems counter productive to me, for you to spend all this

Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system

2008-12-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Tim Barker wrote: I've not run a WISP myself but I bet it's not cost effective to do this using Mikrotik or Canopy. Using a plug-and-play Atheros based device with a web based B/OSS brings the cost right down. What? You are OBVIOUSLY not understanding how to operate a

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
In the absence of Mr Delp, I will make the determination that this thread _is_ closed. I apologize for not catching the personal attacks from multiple people earlier. ryan -Original Message- From: Steve Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:44 AM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, we have over 5,000 wireless subs and no Canopy radios on our entire network. :) Travis Microserv 3-dB Networks wrote: Do you have 5,000 wireless subs Travis? :-) And I'm not saying you don't know what your doing. or even a WISP that has 300 customers doesn't know what they

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
>From 1 to 1000 subs we were deploying Lucent 900mhz Wavelan cards in PC's and running LMR-400 to an external antenna (1997). We then switched to 2.4ghz Lucent using 3Com bridges with PCMCIA cards and still running LMR-400. We were charging $500 for install. We had cable and DSL for

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Michael Baird
Check r1soft.com, it is the best backup software I've seen. It's fast and and has both windows/linux server/client versions, and has a simple interface, and is reasonably priced. Regards Michael Baird Check out using Amanda and s3 for backups. Works like a charm. Sent via BlackBerry from

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Can we please just stop this thread? Nothing good is coming of it. Please output further complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. ---

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Travis, hoy many people do you staff ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:17 PM

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Matt
From 1 to 1000 subs we were deploying Lucent 900mhz Wavelan cards in PC's and running LMR-400 to an external antenna (1997). We then switched to 2.4ghz Lucent using 3Com bridges with PCMCIA cards and still running LMR-400. We were charging $500 for install. We had cable and DSL for

Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system

2008-12-05 Thread Tim Barker
Hi Butch, Thanks for the feedback. I won't argue the points below as I did state what our target market was. Please keep in mind that the paragraph you quote below was referring to the line above it, which you did not include: All of our customers so far have installed systems for less than 100

[WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

2008-12-05 Thread Gino Villarini
www.routerboard.com Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We have 80+ tower sites. We have Trango deployed on all of them (5.8ghz, 2.4ghz and 900mhz mixed) and Mikrotik deployed on about 65 of them. So we still install Trango, but also install Mikrotik. Yes, you do have to be very careful to not self interfere and to coordinate everything,

Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
What is wrong with it? Looks as it always does to me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread lakeland
Oh please. Mike... you are following both threads and posting it here was consistent with the past exchanges in the other thread. He can't have his cake and eat it too. Sorry Done Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We currently have 28 people: 3 owners (that handle management issues, employee hiring, accounting, tower work, network design, server management, etc.) 6 wireless installers 1 wireless dispatcher (signal checks, CPE deployment, etc.) 1 wireless supervisor (2nd level support, etc) 7 admin

Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I am having connectivity issues with Mikrotik's site. I haven't looked into what, why, or how. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008

Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Here is my route to www.routerboard.com (CNAME to routerboard.com) routerboard.com [207.141.27.145] local ISP snip 722 ms16 ms17 ms xe-10-0-0.bar1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net [ 4.78.216. 9] 836 ms20 ms33 ms ae-10-10.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [ 4.69.136.214] 940 ms

Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

2008-12-05 Thread Mac Dearman
Looks like they have been hacked - this is what I see: Tuncis lives here... Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site

[WISPA] WISP Insurance

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I remember there was discussion about WISPA working with an insurance company for WISP insurance. Did that ever go anywhere? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I see Tuncis lives here on proxify but not on my connection here. It looks like both DNS servers are answering the same IP, but the content is different? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned

Re: [WISPA] Mikoritk Site Hacked?

2008-12-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Fixed... It had a blank page that read Ticius Lives here Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, December

[WISPA] Mikrotik parts for sale

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZjohanQ2dhammy - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, So what is the story on 700mhz? Is there spectrum there that can be used by WISP's or does it require a license? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Expect to see lots of Canopy in the Spectrum next year ... :-) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system

2008-12-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Tim Barker wrote: What we're doing with Avansu is looking at scale. If you can bill thousands of subscribers a month you'd want to go with Canopy. If however, you want to offer a service to 30 or 50 homes, single site, it is cost effective? I suppose it would depend mostly

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
All but one block was auctioned off. The other block is nationwide. Your next chance is TVWS. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread John Scrivner
If you did not win any 700 MHz in an auction then you cannot use it. TV Whitespaces will be ready for us to use by late February. Scriv On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So what is the story on 700mhz? Is there spectrum there that can be used by

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, John Scrivner wrote: If you did not win any 700 MHz in an auction then you cannot use it. TV Whitespaces will be ready for us to use by late February. Assuming, of course, that there is equipment for the TVWS. ;-) --

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
That will be for license holders ONLY not WISP's of our size. Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: Expect to see lots of Canopy in the Spectrum next year ... :-) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread John Scrivner
I think the creation of the registration database will create more delay than equipment availability. Scriv On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, John Scrivner wrote: If you did not win any 700 MHz in an auction then you cannot use it. TV

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Nop, that would be for us ... Canopy TVWS devices ... Altough not exactly 700 mhz, but UHF. Motorola is really ahead on the developement of such devices They were very involved in the test of signal sensing anf geolocation... IMHO, part of the decision of TVWS going unlicensed was in part

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Jack Unger
You're right with regard to Moto and TVWS but wouldn't you agree we have to be kleer wen wire tallkin bout freekqwencies??? Gino Villarini wrote: Nop, that would be for us ... Canopy TVWS devices ... Altough not exactly 700 mhz, but UHF. Motorola is really ahead on the developement of

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Matt
Expect to see lots of Canopy in the Spectrum next year ... :-) What will the speed of there TVWS gear be? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Talk is 21Mbps... but I'm sure nothing can be set in stone until the final rules are approved... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik parts for sale

2008-12-05 Thread Blair Davis
Thanks! I bid on all the boards... Mike Hammett wrote: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZjohanQ2dhammy - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Jack Unger
It's a bit premature to speculate. Matt wrote: Expect to see lots of Canopy in the Spectrum next year ... :-) What will the speed of there TVWS gear be? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Good information, surprisingly, here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201071706AAUxIfs Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On

Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
I thought it was too... but it really isn't very specific to broadband modems... so I don't know how much cable loss can they take (I wish I knew what model number I was going to be hit with) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[WISPA] Tricky infrastructure question

2008-12-05 Thread Ugo Bellavance
Hi everyone We are using a pfsense firewall to protect some kind of WiFi campus. Here is the current setup: Building 1 [PfSense - Netgear switch - WiFi Antenna (1)] - RF - Building 2 [WiFi Antenna - Netgear switch - Client computers]. We have a few buildings that are all connected to the

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
You will NOT see TVWS equipment by February I'll be surprised if there is shipping TVWS equipment in 2009. The FCC hasn't even started on the geolocation database system that will easily take 6-9 months and nothing is going to start until after January 20 and then there will

Re: [WISPA] Cable Modem Install's

2008-12-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Does anyone here whitelabel VOX service? I would like to test out a phone. Can I pay someone here for service for a bit? Thanks! ryan Josh Luthman wrote: Good information, surprisingly, here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080201071706AAUxIfs Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [WISPA] 700mhz

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Depends... using modern electronics, 19 megabits of throughput in each 6 MHz channel. Hopefully manufacturers allow channel bonding, because the FCC did. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
As I weeded through the gibberish I did recognize one good point that he made. We need the ability to use public rights of way and to not have our trade restrained by local authorities who seek to ban our equipment deployments It would be nice to have the same rights to right-of-ways

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Please clarify... Storage solutions? or Redundant Connectivity? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:19 AM Subject: [WISPA] Do

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Comments inline... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds Again... Canopy is a very popular

Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Model -- remember this?

2008-12-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Excellent idea Charles 1. Assuming that salaries are being paid (no entrepreneur mojo or sweat equity) -- My original model showed OPEX positive @ 800 customers ($35k / month) a Profitable ROI tipping-point @ approximately 1400 customers ($60k / month) -- thoughts? Too high? Too low? I

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
JAB? They probably have 50,000 subs by now. Canopy shop. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds Again... Canopy is a very popular platform, I do not

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
That's probably slightly aggressive Chuck... but at the scale they are at your not that far off... Its even a more interesting picture if you look at the WISP's they bought... Three more large WISP's by my definition, all Canopy shops... are part of them. Mesa, Digis, and LP Broadband. All

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, You left out sales. Does that mean that you are at the point where you do them all by just taking orders? :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Digis was 100% Canopy. I think they had about 15,000 at the time of the purchase. We have 5000+ all Canopy. Mot has more than 50% of the US market. So the other 50% is made up of Trango, Tranzeo, MT etc etc etc. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
I also think, recognizing the past accurately, is not the same thing as predicting the future. The future holds some very exciting possibilities. The value proposition of Canopy 430 series last mile combined with Trango Apex distribution and NLOS TVWS where applicable, is a very exciting value

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Mot has more than 50% of the US market Is that based on amount of gear sold, or amount of gear still deployed? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Public ROW

2008-12-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Yes, they are there for the asking. As a telco, the only thing we have over non telcos is the right to condemn. Even the railroads have a very straightforward procedure for crossing the tracks or running along side them. - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Units sold. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds Mot has more than 50% of the US market Is that based on amount of gear sold, or amount of gear

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
That's why I pointed out that three of the companies they rolled up were large Canopy WISP's in of themselves. If Digis was 15,000 Canopy Subscribers... than that makes probably 26,000 or so of that amount representative from Mesa, Digis, and LP Broadband that is Canopy (Taking out about a 1,000

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
I'd agree, except with the Trango Apex part... I don't think I need to rehash my opinion there :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:29 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Public ROW

2008-12-05 Thread lakeland
In NY you need to be pretty rich to get pole attachment rights. Last I heard you needed to post a bond as well as have liability for $25 million, name the utilities and govt as additional insureds, pay for a construction audit, undergo engineering review and acceptance, and once you have

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Judging by their web site, JAB has no more than 6 customers. Yes, that's a jab (pun intended) at their web site. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] Tricky infrastructure question

2008-12-05 Thread Ugo Bellavance
BTW the antennas are SkyPilots. Thanks, Ugo Ugo Bellavance wrote: Hi everyone We are using a pfsense firewall to protect some kind of WiFi campus. Here is the current setup: Building 1 [PfSense - Netgear switch - WiFi Antenna (1)] - RF - Building 2 [WiFi Antenna - Netgear switch -

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Yeah they don't want the parent company to gain too much attention I think... With that said the Skybeam website (the Colorado operation...) is pretty bad too Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Tricky infrastructure question

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I am certain you can use MT on each side to do a fdx link. Not sure what else is easy and a good price. On 12/5/08, Ugo Bellavance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW the antennas are SkyPilots. Thanks, Ugo Ugo Bellavance wrote: Hi everyone We are using a pfsense firewall to protect some kind

Re: [WISPA] Public ROW

2008-12-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Insurance and bonds are not really all that expensive. Your insurance company will help you out. We have to have metered service now. That is no different. Engineering review is not something the local govt charges for here. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

[WISPA] Hard time getting Imagestream support auto attendant? need help

2008-12-05 Thread John McDowell
We're having trouble getting Imagestream auto attendant, anybody know another number? We're needing help tonight. Thanks -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which

Re: [WISPA] Hard time getting Imagestream support auto attendant? need help

2008-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
You may be able to get what you need from Butch Evans - http://butchevans.com/contact.php Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Dec 5, 2008

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Not entirely... that's not a true statement. One of the WISP's they purchased had a great deal of Trango installed. Granted, they may be replacing it as they go, but I know for a fact they are not 100% Canopy. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: JAB? They probably have 50,000 subs

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
I'll confirm that. that is the WISP I was talking about earlier (but as I said I think the pressure for them is outside of their control to be fair) Daniel White 3-dB Networks _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes we haven't had any sales people for 3+ years. We were never able to find one that could even pay for themselves after 6 months (meaning bring in enough new business to pay their salary). So, we don't have any inside or outside sales people. If I could find one that was any good, I'm

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
At ISPCon, JAB said they had 50,000 subs so does that mean only 50% is Canopy? ;) Travis Microserv 3-dB Networks wrote: That's why I pointed out that three of the companies they rolled up were large Canopy WISP's in of themselves. If Digis was 15,000 Canopy Subscribers... than that

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
LOL this would be the point where I have to shut up and not say more than I already have. but there is a lot of smaller Canopy WISP's in there too :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, December 05,

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Hard time getting Imagestream support auto attendant? need help

2008-12-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, John McDowell wrote: We're having trouble getting Imagestream auto attendant, anybody know another number? We're needing help tonight. I may be able to help. I will try to contact someone directly if you still need them. I can't give out some of the numbers I have. --

Re: [WISPA] Hard time getting Imagestream support auto attendant? needhelp

2008-12-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
We seem to have had a major meltdown of our phone switch. Please call me on my cell at 574-220-7826. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:28 PM To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Hard time getting Imagestream support auto attendant? needhelp

2008-12-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
John, All I have is your main number below. I left 3 cell numbers on your voicemail. Please call as soon as you get the message so we can work through this. Sorry for the phone problem...it's worked without a hitch for over 5 years. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Hard time getting Imagestream support auto attendant? needhelp

2008-12-05 Thread John McDowell
No worries jeff. We're out at the tower now. Replaced a router and some nic cards. And just trying to narrow it down. I t may be a faulty power supply Do u have a number I can call if Marlon's ICNA training isn't enough?(wink) is somebody on duty? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2008, at

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-05 Thread eje
Sorry but this comment makes me laugh that you can throw out a number like this when the wise people that do statistics can't even come to a true conclusion how many wisps and other unlicensed operators there are out there. To state these numbers as well with as many privately owned

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