Re: [WISPA] [isp-wireless] Postage

2009-01-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Many of our customers want a paper bill. When we switched, we first did it voluntarily. Not many changed. Not enough to matter. When we mandated it we gave them an option of still getting a paper bill but we charge for that. I think we'll next do that with credit card payment. Sure we'll

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
Very sad indeed. I don't think they should be giving awards away for incidents when people die at work. Even if the person made a mistake like that. It was not funny to me at all. But some have a weird sense of humor. Me, I see no humor in a death or falling off a tower Blair Davis wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
Not to say thats not right. The whole point of the Darwin awards was that the people who died have died in the most stupidest way, that they did the entire human population a favor by eliminating themselves from the gene pool. There is a movie even on it.Like the guy who strapped a Jato

[WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for spam

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
When climbing how many think let's tie off in two places because this first piece of angle iron is going to fall off? On 1/6/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Not to say thats not right. The whole point of the Darwin awards was that the people who died have died

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Love it. Couldn't expect a better service. HTTP://goinx.com On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
So where do you go to sign up? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: pni...@csweb.net ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Matt
For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. Currently we are running our email services on an out of production email server that is no longer supported and behind a Barracuda SF for

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
Well I don't tie off in two places when I'm climbing... but when I am in a position I am going to be working at I tie off in two different places just in case... because you never know what might happen. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I mean this sincerely - I just googled it and found it. Try looking for google apps partner edition On 1/6/09, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: So where do you go to sign up? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Nash
If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's domains, it is not, at least when I researched it before we went with Everyone.Net. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
For the customer's domain we use Google Apps as well. Case in point, imaginenetworksllc.com - my.imaginenetworksllc.com or mail.imaginenetworksllc.com On 1/6/09, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: If you only host your OWN domain, this looks like a good solution. If you host your CUSTOMER's

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread David E. Smith
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all the hard work, and host all my users' email.

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
What I do is ask them to use the web interface and give one of the many reasons why. If they simply say no or don't like it, I walk them through setting up one account with POP/IMAP on whatever client and then say you're on you're own for support as you introduce tons of viruses and malware when

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Adam Goodman
http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/partners/index.html On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Patrick Nix Jr. pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you.

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Looks like it. It was all automated when we did it - never contacted someone from Google. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
I don't know if it is because we use the premier edition but POP3 or IMAP is turned on automatically by checking POP3 or IMAP twice in a row. The first time if fails but the second time it succeeds, no logging into the account manually. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM, David

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Never heard that before. I always assumed that you have to give Gmail time to propagate the enabling of the IMAP or POP services. I can't stand local clients anymore so my experience is pretty limited. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off with? Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to move it that you are then not tied off at all? 3-dB Networks wrote: Well I don't tie off in two places when I'm climbing... but when I am in a position I am going to be working

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Using Google hosted email is ok, but, has some drawbacks. Namely the SSL cert and funky IMAP support. If it could be better integrated into a website (IE, into my.foo.com instead of google.com/a/my.foo.com) I would love it. Maybe that can be done with a better understanding of the Google API?

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
No... when I climb one lanyard is attached to the tower at all times. Or I am attached to a cable break or something similar at all times. To be tied off in two different places while climbing at all times would require three lanyards, or two lanyards and a safe climb device of some sort (cable

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
It makes sense the way you explained it. So when you climb you use two lanyards. half the time 1 lanyard is connected and the other half two lanyards are connected. Is that right? 3-dB Networks wrote: No... when I climb one lanyard is attached to the tower at all times. Or I am attached to

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
Right... 100% tie off at all times. What I'm getting at though is when I get to the position I am going to be working at... I'm 200% tied off (or I have both lanyards attached to the tower at a minimum... and to different anchor points if possible... just in case) Daniel White 3-dB Networks

Re: [WISPA] [isp-wireless] Postage

2009-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
There's always ACH, which has lower fees than credit card. Many banks have a check reader that you have at your premises Once you scan the checks through, it deposits directly into your account... all without having to take the check to the bank. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Layne Sisk
Only problem is that according to what Google said at the last ISPCon they are not doing it for free anymore. :-( -Layne Layne Sisk ServerPlus From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Patrick Nix Jr. Sent: Tue 1/6/2009 8:51 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread John McDowell
;-) j/p On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM, John McDowell j...@boonlink.com wrote: If Chuck was climbing it was probably petrified wood. He's been around a while... On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: What is this wood? Is it like primitive

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Mike Hammett
They still train you in that fashion, I believe. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Chuck McCown ch...@beehive.net Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown
You just put your gloved hands on each side of the pole. Kinda like the guys that climb palm trees with nothing. You have hooks on your feet so that is what is keeping you on the pole. Your hands keep you from falling backwards but there isn't much force on your hands if you are doing it

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown
Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt around the pole. Most of the time the drop was between 20 and 30 feet. Enough to hurt you pretty bad but probably not kill you. I burned one pole

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Adam Goodman
I don't think you have to contact them if you are going to use the standard plan. We didn't. Adam On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Looks like it. It was all automated when we did it - never contacted someone from Google. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
What is this wood? Is it like primitive steel? =) Did the pole have hooks like a gen pole? What did the person hold on to when climbing? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
And 15 years ago most people climbed towers freestyle... all this safety gear is still relatively new isn't it Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
For the partner edition I didn't. Neither the standard for my customers. I am doing premier at the time of this writing and have not spoken with anyone. On 1/6/09, Adam Goodman a...@wispring.com wrote: I don't think you have to contact them if you are going to use the standard plan. We

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Frank Muto
As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity and for clients looking

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Blake Bowers
I remember years ago carrying a cable TV employee from the hospital in Hendersonville TN to Vanderbilt hospital in Nashville after he slid a pole. Fractured legs X2, and abraisions and splinters ALL over. I do mean ALL over Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
Chuck McCown wrote: Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt around the pole. Most of the time the drop was between 20 and 30 feet. Enough to hurt you pretty bad but probably not kill

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Nash
The ENET customizable portal is really cool. You can customize just about everything you want about the look feel of the webmail interface. You can give your customers admin access to their own domain as well, while you still control system-wide settings. We moved 3 servers into their service

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
I did a lot of climbing before I bothered to be Comtrain certified... after the fact... even though I was using the right gear, I realized that many things I was doing were wrong. I strongly recommend anyone climbing towers should take a tower climbing course... Comtrain was great but I'm sure

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-06 Thread RickG
I hate to hijack this thread but this brings to mind another question: With respect to WISP's, what is the definition of CGS (Cost of Goods Sold)? -RickG On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Shiraz Moosajee shi...@jabbroadband.com wrote: Matt, You would generally count just the one unique customer.

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck Bartosch
I also recommend the ComTrain course. I sent a staff member to it who I knew was climbing even when I'd said we'd use a tower company to do it. He just didn't like to wait, and yes, he was completely fearless. He came back a chastened man with truly the fear of god put into him. . He

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
The cost of tangable items invoiced. For example if you sell the customer the cpe, the cost of that is the radio, dish, connectors, cable, mount, poe injector, cable ties, lags, surge protector, etc. Labor does not fall under cogs Sent from my Windows MobileĀ® phone. -Original

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-06 Thread RickG
What about the WISP as a whole. Example: What about bandwidth? On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: The cost of tangable items invoiced. For example if you sell the customer the cpe, the cost of that is the radio, dish, connectors, cable, mount, poe

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-06 Thread Jerry Richardson
Good question. I believe it would also fall under cogs. Sent from my Windows MobileĀ® phone. -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean? What about the

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't think this can be done well. For example, if the definition is going to cover the United States the same service needs to be available in that area. In some parts of our network we have 5.8 coverage - nearly 30 megs available. These customers can do 2, 4 and 6 meg packages. The other

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread David E. Smith
Frank Muto wrote: As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Nash
We are not using their free service. I usually don't use free services. I am of the mindset that you get what you pay for. Sometimes you luck out and there are success stories, but by and large I steer clear of unpaid services. I feel that you always pay, somehow. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
We used the Google Apps service for about a year completely free - no problems. We finally purchased it to make us feel worthy of being Google customers. Got a few bells and whistles by paying for it, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

[WISPA] An Amazing vendor experience -3db Networks

2009-01-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
Every once in a rare while, an amazing Vendor experience occurs, and when it does, I feel its worthy to share it with my peers. Its not easy earning my business. I shop savy, am well informed, tend to overly procastinate, and favor pre-existing relationships. There were many reason that I was

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown
I used to free climb towers. Some of them had so much crap on them it was the only way to do it (unless you had two belts... perish the thought). - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:58 AM

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Cameron Kilton
When I climb, I am clipped into three different areas while working away. Freestyle, phew, glad I missed that part of it. I have been climbing for about 4 years I couldn't imagine using some of the stuff people used to use. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well, it may not be funny, but it does demonstrate a very important point. That it is very easy to lose focus, and not be cautious of the obvious. Its sorta like, most car accidents happen within a mile of their own house, where they are most familiar There are reasons, they teach you to never

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown
When free climbing, you are very careful. Perhaps more careful than with multiple lanyards. I can remember placing each hand in a slow deliberate manner. Did not want to be surprised by a sharp metal burr or stinging insect on whatever I was grabbing. - Original Message - From:

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-06 Thread Eje Gustafsson
I would say these discussions are kind of meaning less because these definitions are different from one accountant to another. But if the question is rephrased how to does you guys define your COGS. Because even if people are WISPs there are so many different approaches to being a WISP on these

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-06 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Actually some type of labor can fall into cogs. If we talk about internet service cogs for an install the labor cost to install this client should be included. But labor for sales, marketing and support of this customer shouldn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_goods_sold COGS is the

[WISPA] Outdoor video camera

2009-01-06 Thread Alan Long
I am looking for outdoor video cameras, that gets power via poe and is wifi. Any suggestions/recommendations.Thanks.. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor video camera

2009-01-06 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
inscape data ? Alan Long wrote: I am looking for outdoor video cameras, that gets power via poe and is wifi. Any suggestions/recommendations.Thanks.. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire

[WISPA] Independent contractor rates etc?

2009-01-06 Thread Martha Huizenga
Hi all, Do you pay per job or hourly for installers? Do you mind sharing what rates you charge for either? Thanks Martha -- Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /*

[WISPA] Was Tower Accident: In Memoriam

2009-01-06 Thread John McDowell
Saw this on ComTrain's site. Notice Jonathon Guilford...he was the guy in the Dateline special from our hometown of Fort Payne. His brother Harold now works for me. One of these deaths was from 8 feet, by the way...just goes to show...100% tie off no matter how high.

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor video camera

2009-01-06 Thread Tom Sharples
Mobotix is your best bet. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor video camera I am looking for outdoor video cameras, that gets power via poe and

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I think what he means is he does not tie off to two different angle irons, stairs, ect while climbing. But when positioned does tie off to at least two different parts of the tower in case a bolt fails or something. (one hook on the ladder, the other in a tower leg) George Rogato wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
Exactly. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident I think what he means

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Am I the only one left that thinks it's just a bit strange that google seems to be in a position to know almost everything that there is to know about what happens on the internet? Even your personal emails now? Google has become far too Orwellian even for me! shudder marlon - Original

Re: [WISPA] Was Tower Accident: In Memoriam

2009-01-06 Thread eje
When climbing tower you should always have at least 4 points contact with the tower at all times. So when moving hands and feet you should have two fall arrestors attached to the tower neither of them on he same rung. When moving the fall arrestors both feet should be stationary and one hand

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have cages around them. Usually it's like a 100ft ladder. Brian Chuck McCown wrote: I used to free climb towers. Some of them had so much crap on them it was the only way to do it (unless you had two belts... perish the thought). -

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
I'll confirm that... the cage is supposed to prevent you from actually falling... so it is consider fall restraint and no other protection is technically needed (although I have used a harness and lanyards on them before because I didn't trust the cage and I had to have it on at the top).

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that is a little

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Google's motto is Don't be evil :) On 1/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Am I the only one left that thinks it's just a bit strange that google seems to be in a position to know almost everything that there is to know about what happens on the internet? Even your personal

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck Hogg
I don't think that you will find an attachment point on a grain leg safety rated for 5,000lbs. At least I don't know of any on the grain legs we are on. Seems like you are climbing it too much if you need a cable. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Blair Davis
We free climb inside the cage, but tie in on the working platforms. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have cages around them. Usually it's like a 100ft ladder. Brian Chuck McCown wrote: I used to free climb towers. Some of them had so

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
There is a railing on all the ones that I am on. But it is good to know we are doing as osha would. That means we are safe. I have been pretty worried about it for the last year since I hired help. I guess this will put me at ease. Brian 3-dB Networks wrote: I'll confirm that... the cage

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Well, lately we have backed off. But for the last 8 months, it seemed like a couple legs a day (30 sites). So much for the cheap route I went Brian Chuck Hogg wrote: I don't think that you will find an attachment point on a grain leg safety rated for 5,000lbs. At least I don't

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
I'd still make sure you wear a good pair of gloves, good pair of boots, and technically you should probably have a hard hat and safety glasses on too. But technically it sounds like your okay in OSHA's eyes... although my experience has shown OSHA inspectors are a PITA Daniel White 3-dB Networks

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Bob Moldashel
That's correct. Not required if there is a cage around the ladder. I would still use one though 3-dB Networks wrote: I'll confirm that... the cage is supposed to prevent you from actually falling... so it is consider fall restraint and no other protection is technically needed (although

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck Hogg
Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I have a lot more repeaters than that and we usually only revisit to upgrade or repair. We're mostly MikroTik and went and upgraded one of our longest uptime AP's last week. 130+ plus of uptime. What gear are you using that needs to be revisited so often?

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
MT, but it's all fixed now. Within the last your I have all new APs and PtP 5.8 backhauls. It had been a mixture of crap for the 3 yrs previous. We also had a crazy problem with the cheap wiligear cards I tried to use for the backhauls. They made the radios reboot at crazy times. Some

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
What cards are you using? Compex and ubnt has been good to me. On 1/6/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote: MT, but it's all fixed now. Within the last your I have all new APs and PtP 5.8 backhauls. It had been a mixture of crap for the 3 yrs previous. We also had a crazy

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor video camera

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
Hi Tom I just installed a Mobotix cam. Very cool looking piece of equipment. I think the cam was 1,400.00 All I can say other than great cam, is, I wish I was in the business of selling a wierd plastic shape with some circuitry and a lense for 1,400.00 Anyways we both were happy with it. George

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
I won't let anyone that works for me free climb. I ain't gonna have to telll someones family sorry your loved one fell from 50' and died. Chuck McCown wrote: When free climbing, you are very careful. Perhaps more careful than with multiple lanyards. I can remember placing each hand in a

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Bob Moldashel
In the eye of the government the fall arrest cable system must meet the design requirement of the ladder it serves. S... You can't really just throw up a cable system on a ladder and use it. It needs to be designed so it will meet all the fall requirements, anchor standards, etc, etc.

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Eric Albert
When I was on your side of the business (working for an integrator), I took the two-day ComTrain course. I usually worked the ground, prepared loads and worked the winch or tag lines. I was not interested (nor my wife) in working at height. But the course taught me valuable lessons; first, I

[WISPA] Voip commercial

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
The radio station sent me this new ad for my voip offering. Can I get some feedback on it, what if anything should change? http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/Radio/sp04221.mp3 Thanks George WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] Voip commercial

2009-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I couldn't get it to play. Any way to make it an attachment? - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: [WISPA] Voip commercial The radio station sent me this new ad for my

Re: [WISPA] Outdoor video camera

2009-01-06 Thread Tom Sharples
Hi George, They also have the M22 models which are around $800. Still quite a bit, but the capabilities of the firmware are mind-boggling. Fantastic image quality, internal recording, 3-megapixel sensor, hi-res electronic zoom, ultra-efficient compression, analytics, etc. etc. Confusing German

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Gino Villarini
Whats enet web address? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:15 PM

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
My rule has always been 1 man on the ground or at least nearby with a two way radio. Anything big (you have to climb on the structure, no ladder/elevator) 1 person watching. My thought process is in the event something does happen, someone is there to help and the person climbing isn't stuck in

Re: [WISPA] Voip commercial

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Chuck, wget http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/Radio/sp04221.mp3 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Chuck McCown -

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
lol So was Hitler's I think! grin It's just too strange for me. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Blair Davis
I was taught, many years ago, that you NEVER do aerial work alone. Never. I always have someone on the ground. If to do nothing besides call 911. Josh Luthman wrote: My rule has always been 1 man on the ground or at least nearby with a two way radio. Anything big (you have to climb on

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Exactly - if one is unconscious on a tower what is to help them if for not someone on the ground? If everyone followed just a small list of safety rules we could prevent the stories like this... http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/tower-climbing-deadly-job/2008-07-09 Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [WISPA] Voip commercial

2009-01-06 Thread George Rogato
I thought it was just my machine. WMP wouldn't play it so I had to open it in VLC player. Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: I couldn't get it to play. Any way to make it an attachment? - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Voip commercial

2009-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Didn't even think of that - I was thinking he had a Quicktime plugin for his browser... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Nash
everyone.net Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:11 PM Subject:

[WISPA] ping

2009-01-06 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
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