Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm no economist, but isn't the same amount of money entering the marketplace either way? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:28

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
So is this something where as part of our network build to a new area, the school pays a certain appropriate installation for getting high speed Internet to their facility. The grant pays for it. We just happen to take that extended network segment and build PtMP off of it for our own use?

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism That one is about as far off as it can get. I think liberalism is interested in equal outcome, not equal opportunity. It's interested in eliminating the poor, bad grades, winners and losers etc. Liberalism wants to make sure you don't loose that house

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread George Rogato
Liberalism is a broad class of political philosophies that considers individual liberty and equality to be the most important political goals.[1] Liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Within liberalism, there are various streams of thought which compete over the

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
yeah, I read what it said. It's a VERY white washed and politically correct version though. It's certainly NOT what our current liberalism is here. If liberalism were really about equal opportunity we'd not get punished for being successful. Nor would people be rewarded for failure/bad

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Jeff Broadwick
If you really want to get your head spinning, the labels are mean the opposite overseas. Classical economic liberalism is today's United States conservative, and vice versa. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread George Rogato
I think they are labels, it's the old divide and conquer. We call ourselves left and right and then fight about it, all the while our politicians, both left and right, have a good old time trying to figure out how to get more tax revenue out of us while having a good old time with our money.

Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Now that I'm a WISPA member, where can I find more information on this? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: 'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Scott Piehn
http://www.usac.org/sl/providers/step01/ Scott Piehn We are in Illinois also, would be willing to help if you have problems - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Indeed. I'm going through that stuff, but how everyone was making it sound before, it was a big PITA to setup and use. Was it really that difficult? Does the state have something similar? I think I heard some do. How useful has it been in getting clients? How much does it really save them?

[WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
Has anybody heard as to when they are shipping? Also, I thought I noticed something go through the lists that is WAS possible to put MikroTik on the Nanostation gear, true/false? Cameron Midcoast Internet WISPA

Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Dennis Burgess
last time I heard, false.. not enough ram. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member*

Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Blair Davis
A standard NS2/5 doesn't have the memory to run MT. What is this about an NS3? Cameron Kilton wrote: Has anybody heard as to when they are shipping? Also, I thought I noticed something go through the lists that is WAS possible to put MikroTik on the Nanostation gear, true/false? Cameron

Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread eje
NS3 is currently special order. 1k minimum order when I spoke with Ubnt about a week or two ago. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Cameron Kilton Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: wireless@wispa.org ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik Sent: Mar 11, 2009 15:00

Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread os10rules
What about the PicoStation? On Mar 11, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: last time I heard, false.. not enough ram. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Scott Piehn
from the site I gave you SPIN # for you means a school can file e-rate to get money from the erate people (think is the state) wasn't hard, just took a little time, file this form, wait a month, file that form, every year, file a form. etc. not hard. Forms are only 1 or 2 pages. not hard

Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
http://ubnt.com/products/nano.php They announced it not long ago. I want it to ship and I want to put MikroTik on it.. :-) -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:13

Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
Do you know if is 1k as in units or dollars :) I'll take a $1000 worth times 2 :) -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

2009-03-11 Thread RickG
Watch out! Next you'll be getting a paypal account! :) -RickG On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: For what it's worth to anyone, Jerry was a HUGE help. I'd have NEVER figured out what went wrong with my installation and I'd still be trying to

Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

2009-03-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
Ha! He has one Now to send off part of the payment to Rodger :-) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009

[WISPA] Fw: Allen Marsalis -- was -- Re: OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

2009-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
fyi marlon - Original Message - From: Allen Marsalis gmail3...@bandwise.com To: 'Marlon K. Schafer' o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: RE: Allen Marsalis -- was -- Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile LMAO, I have a mess of routerboards and radios

Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Consider it only has 8MB and the MT install image is 10M I don't think there is even enough space on the PicoStation and from the looks of it the disk usage on a RB411 is about 25-30Mbyte. 16MB ram is enough for most easier applications but you would need 32MB storage I would say and that