Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)

2009-03-17 Thread Randy Cosby
ARGH! I was late (even by pacific time, I wonder if they wait until Hawaii time before they make the cutoff?) I spent nearly two hours trying to figure out vague errors I was getting on the final submission. This Submission could not be accepted. Some of the totals computed from the detail

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Scott Piehn
One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP. Scott - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN If you are multihomed you need to

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Cliff Olle
I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 days or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you are only using 4 class Cs? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
No. You'll need a /21 worth of existing PA address space in order to justify a /20 initial allocation from ARIN. See below: https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_initial_alloc.html Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)

2009-03-17 Thread Don Renner
I would second the recommendation of Brian Webster's work. Took our 1000 people and produced the 28 census tracts in 7 counties. Total time after receiving 1hr 15 min. Don Renner NetsurfUSA 812-936-4514 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)

2009-03-17 Thread Dylan Bouterse
I had the same problem! How can they have some of the error checking they have, and not accept 0s in fields??? I'm sorry for not mentioning that when I wrote my email. I was still kind of hot from figuring that out when I wrote it too. Which prison did you say? ;) Dylan From:

[WISPA] 900MHz Antennas - MTI vs. The Rest

2009-03-17 Thread 3-dB Networks
Just curious what people think of MTI's 900MHz Sectors/Omni in 900MHz vs. Tiltek, Pac Wireless, and others. How do they stack up performance wise? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com

Re: [WISPA] ARTICLE - What's the U.S. Doing Wrong with Broadband ?

2009-03-17 Thread John Scrivner
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: If you are big enough, or if you are multihomed you can get PI space But you only get 3.14 addresses at a time. :-) (Sorry, could not resist) Scriv

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz Antennas - MTI vs. The Rest

2009-03-17 Thread jp
I have not used MTI omnis. I have used their 900 horizontal sectors though. They are rugged and have clean cuttoff in the vertical pattern, good for sites where accurate downtilt is important to prevent interference. Performance is good as expected, probably comparable to other better

[WISPA] Tranzeo Releases 4.0.2 Firmware for its TR6 Family

2009-03-17 Thread D. Ryan Spott
http://support.tranzeo.com/news.php?id=134 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

[WISPA] Ohio WISPS

2009-03-17 Thread chris cooper
If you are operating in one of the 29 Appalachian counties or operate in Pickaway, Fairfield, Knox or Licking counties and are interested in a possible collaborative opportunity involving stimulus funding, please hit me off list. Thanks Chris Cooper Intelliwave LLC

Re: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday

2009-03-17 Thread Denise Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Denise Hamilton [mailto:den...@rseng.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] FW: only 20 people on the video stream forthe ntiameetingstoday Thank you. Are they steaming or telecasting the meeting today in

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)

2009-03-17 Thread Randy Cosby
I actually did have Brian do ours as well. My problem had more to do with how my internal stuff was organized and my rusty excel skills. We'll be much more prepared next time. Thanks again Brian! Maybe I'm imagining things, but I could have sworn the FCC site put some of those zeros in

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)

2009-03-17 Thread Mike Hammett
They won't even come knocking on your door if you don't file at all, so I think you'll be okay. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Randy Cosby Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Richey
/rant on Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a market where it's not cost effective to multi home. Where many people might get a DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month. For those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)

2009-03-17 Thread Ed Spoon - Computer Sales Services, Inc.
I hear ya on the added zeroes, I think I saw that as well. I'm also pretty sure they lost some of the data between when I started early last week and when I resumed it this past weekend - I had to re-key a bunch of stuff I was sure I already had done. Also started requiring 0% on residential when

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)

2009-03-17 Thread Randy Cosby
Why does it feel like this is just the beginning? Ed Spoon - Computer Sales Services, Inc. wrote: I hear ya on the added zeroes, I think I saw that as well. I'm also pretty sure they lost some of the data between when I started early last week and when I resumed it this past weekend - I had

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Mike Hammett
No. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Cliff Olle w...@eccentrixtechnologies.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Mike Hammett
It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I won't say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k. The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet justification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

[WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question...

2009-03-17 Thread reader
How, uhh, do you deal with woodpeckers...??? Anyone got any ideas other than shotgun? insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question...

2009-03-17 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Pellet rifle? :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question... How, uhh, do you deal

Re: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question...

2009-03-17 Thread Blake Bowers
Orkin has a pecker treatment available, at least they did in Nashville. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question...

2009-03-17 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Go ask this guy: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22080010-Squirrel Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: How, uhh, do you deal with woodpeckers...??? Anyone

[WISPA] ATT to work with power companys to expand BPL

2009-03-17 Thread Lists
http://telephonyonline.com/residential_services/news/att-smartsynch-smart-gr id-technology-0317/ Thanks, Victoria Proffer CEO StLouisBroadband.com MissouriRuralWireless.com 314.974.5600 SBA Certified WOSB

Re: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question...

2009-03-17 Thread Joe Miller
I would use an old CD. Hang it where the woodpecker is pecking. Hang it in a way that the CD will move freely with a fishing line. Birds do not like reflections of moving objects, it scares them. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: From:

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread John Thomas
Are you saying that it is not practical for you to get a T-1 so that you can legitimately run BGP and multi home? You can set BGP so that 99% of the traffic goes over the bigger pipe if necessary. I am curious where people are getting DS3's at $1500 per month? We have a client that has a point

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Chadd Thompson
Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial DS3. 10mb: $4300 20mb: $4788 30mb: $5300 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Travis Johnson
You are missing an opportunity there... Tell them you will provide them a 300Mbps full duplex link for $3,000 per month. Then go buy a Trango licensed link for $11k and make $3k a month profit after 4 months. :) Travis Microserv John Thomas wrote: Are you saying that it is not practical

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread John Thomas
The thing that is sad about that is there are Internet providers that will install fiber to your premises and deliver the bandwidth for half that. American Fiber Systems http://www.americanfibersystems.com/ will do a 10 Meg Internet Connection over fiber to Reno NV for $2000 per month, with a

Re: [WISPA] ATT to work with power companys to expand BPL

2009-03-17 Thread RickG
And where is the ARRL and all the Ham operators? -RickG On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Lists li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: http://telephonyonline.com/residential_services/news/att-smartsynch-smart-gr

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread John Thomas
Yes, I know we could have done that, but this client makes a lot of noise when anything resembling a hiccup occurs, and we weren't going to take that chance. ATT gets to deal with them when the DS3 has problems :-) On another note, they have been quite happy with their Covad Wireless

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Richey
Why should you HAVE to pay for something that you really will never use? I read about guys in rural areas that are still paying $700+ for a T1. Even at $500/mo that's a lot of money to spend on something you will never really use.You might as well be down if your DS3 takes a hit and your

Re: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question...

2009-03-17 Thread RickG
Reminds me of Bill Murray in Caddy Shack! -RickG On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote: Go ask this guy: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22080010-Squirrel Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread RickG
Of course, they'll bill you 10 times that and never fix their billing issues! -RickG On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Chadd Thompson chad...@msn.com wrote: Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial DS3. 10mb: $4300 20mb: $4788 30mb: $5300 -Original

Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN

2009-03-17 Thread Chadd Thompson
Been there done that. We were getting double billed for about 8 months because they didn't remove our billing on some old circuits after they forced us to upgrade from the old SBC network. We paid it for a few months because our account rep said it would be fixed and they would credit our account