Re: [WISPA] billable fee schedule

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Reed
For most things $60/hour. I think out installer/repair contractor gets $35/hour for hourly work. Flat $80 for installations and a flat $35 if he goes to a installation and it doesn't work. RickG wrote: Ya, that may be the way to go. What are you paying per hour? On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Mark McElvy
Well before moving to the current setup, I originally had a CPQ-19, 10 ft lower. It had a -80 with the same result and I was seeing a lot of retries. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] MT on Atom

2009-10-16 Thread Curtis Maurand
I've had a couple of these things. I'm currently firewalling an insurance company on one (vyatta), I had one firewalling the local budweiser distributor (pfsense) and I was using one as a primary nameserver (Gentoo Linux). These things have never even burped. I have an intel system that

Re: [WISPA] MT on Atom

2009-10-16 Thread Nick Olsen
Thats good to hear, I was really looking forward to replacing some of my boxes with these. I figured router, Pbx, Mail/DNS. As each one of those is running on like a p3 or a vm. Router is a amd 3000+ though. I just love that these are small, low power, rack mountable, low heat, oh and cheap.

[WISPA] Need SU-A-5.8-3-BD-VL

2009-10-16 Thread Larry A Weidig
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Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Is that a bigger or smaller antenna size than what you have now? If you moved up by 10' and increased your signal levels, what 1000% or so, I'd REALLY say that this is looking like a multipath issue. Often with multipath I've seen the signals hold well but performance suck. It'll sometimes

[WISPA] sub 3.7 gig spectrum, comments needed was -- Re: [FCC Committee] FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski AnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development of National Broadband Plan

2009-10-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hmmm, I thought that there was one with something like 100 questions on it. I must have my issues mixed up. Anyway here's an idea that I think is worth of discussion. I think we should toss out the idea that sensing mechanisms should be allowed so that ANY open frequencies can be used. A

Re: [WISPA] MT on Atom

2009-10-16 Thread Robert West
Must be quad core. How much data are you pushing through them? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:00 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Steve Barnes
Marlon, DO you have or know of a good white paper on Multipath issues? I agree with your assessment but I have several locations that I have not been able to resolve Multipath for. I had an installation last week 3 miles from tower AP. Clear line of site other than going over the Neighbors

Re: [WISPA] sub 3.7 gig spectrum, comments needed was -- Re: [FCC Committee] FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski AnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development of National Broadband Plan

2009-10-16 Thread Robert West
What?! Pagers are long gone??? Well that figures.. I was wondering why my pager hasn't gone off since 1997. And I've been paying the bill every month. DAMN! The fire department here just put in a 2.5ghz system last month. Fire radio guy tells me they have been picking up signals in

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Mike
Reading with interest this thread and especially Marlon's take. I have seen power lines in the Fresnel zone play havoc with a signal. Especially when the wind blows. I have found the same thing regarding placement of the radio. Many times a few feet one way or another just works. I liken

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Andy Trimmell
Are you using the CPE as a bridge? Or are you using their router as a PPPoE connector? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Robert West
Mike, How high are you up on that tower? I've seen you talk about the light a few times, what are using to trigger it? This is a rotating beacon, right? I might file this away in my future bag of tricks, I think it's an excellent idea for some locations and could save us some time on a site

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Mark McElvy
Marlon I do not disagree with your assessment but the original installation was a 30ft mast sitting on the roof of the garage and strapped to the eve of the second story roof. This put a 19db radio 20 ft above the roof, given the signal, -80~ and the retries a figured it was shooting through the

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Mark McElvy
My radio is the router/PPPoE client. Yes their indoor AP is routing also but I see issue when connected directly with my laptop. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Andy Trimmell
Only time I've ever seen something like you're describing is when there was a DNS setting in a Mikrotik when the default DNS servers weren't set correctly. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-16 Thread Steve Barnes
Make sure you have updated the Tranzeo MT to 4.0.5 Firmware. If they are 4.0.2 there is a DHCP routing issue. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be

[WISPA] a good article.

2009-10-16 Thread Chuck Profito
A good article about fixed WIMAX came in on my Google news page by Robb Henshaw, the Director of Marketing Communications at Proxim Wireless. http://xrl.in/3ckf or http://www.wimax.com/commentary/blog/blog-2009/october-2009/fixed-wireless-c ontinues-to-thrive-in-the-background-1013

[WISPA] DIY Special - Tranzeo shells

2009-10-16 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Hi all, I am upgrading my network to OFDM 10mhz channels and phasing out my 802.11b systems. I have a bunch of older model Tranzeo radios that I am looking to liquidate and wanted to let people on the WISPA lists know about them before I put them on ebay or our upcoming Used Tranzeo site.

[WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread David Hulsebus
FYI From SANS Newsbites Vol. 11 Num. 82 : Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right --Finland Declares 1Mb Broadband Access a Legal Right (October 14 15, 2009) The Finnish government has enacted a law making 1Mb broadband Internet access a legal right. The law will take effect in July

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Jack Unger
Thanks for your post Dave. I didn't know this was going on. David Hulsebus wrote: FYI From SANS Newsbites Vol. 11 Num. 82 : Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right --Finland Declares 1Mb Broadband Access a Legal Right (October 14 15, 2009) The Finnish government has enacted a

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Seriously my brain hurts that is so dumb. A human right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Oct

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Robert West
I can see somewhere in the near future, after all major technologies converge into devices that run on whatever version of the internet we will have at that time, that this would be a feasible argument however at this moment and probably in the next 10 years the vast majority of us will be able to

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Dude, you're talking about France. What do you expect? ;-) Chuck On Oct 16, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Jayson Baker wrote: My thoughts exactly. A human right. Duh? On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Seriously my brain hurts that is so dumb. A human

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Oct 16, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Robert West wrote: I can see somewhere in the near future, after all major technologies converge into devices that run on whatever version of the internet we will have at that time, that this would be a feasible argument however at this moment and probably

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Robert West
Yeah. A legal right. In that case, I ground my son from that damn Maple Story he plays hours on end and he calls children's services because I violated his legal rights... What other things do I have the legal right to that I don't have, I wonder... This is that Entitlement crap

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Marco Coelho
The faster the pipe, the faster the surrender! Ouch. Was that the French side of my family rolling over in their graves? Marco On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Dude, you're talking about France. What do you expect? ;-) Chuck On Oct 16,

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Robert West
Oui Polo -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right The faster the pipe, the faster

Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections

2009-10-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes they can be the cause for numerous reasons. 1) they can start to go flaky, and when gone flaky they can cause hesitent throughput, (sorta like when a CPU overheats, or when a bus or cache limit gets exceeded) that will force TCPIP congestion to slow throughput. Its not uncommon to have

Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections

2009-10-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its not a question of manufacturer, its a question of model and/or rev of model. Near impossible to have time to test them all, there are so many.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca To:

Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections

2009-10-16 Thread Al Stewart
Thanks Tom ... I know some of the cheaper wireless routers on our system have been causing speed problems for various reasons. And I can see the reasons for the problems. But for most people, I guess a router is a router, and they don't want to spend big bucks. For myself, I'm looking to

Re: [WISPA] sub 3.7 gig spectrum, comments needed was -- Re: [FCC Committee] FCC Chairman JuliusGenachowski AnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development of NationalBroadband Plan

2009-10-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its about the relevence of the questions not the quantity. 5 relevent broad questions can still allow for 1000's of potential pages of answers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com

Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections

2009-10-16 Thread Al Stewart
And that is a problem. Al -- At 05:56 PM 10/16/2009 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: --- Its not a question of manufacturer, its a question of model and/or rev of model. Near impossible to have time to test them all, there are so many.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed

[WISPA] Ligowave backhaul

2009-10-16 Thread Phil Curnutt
Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Very Funny! Thats right, they have the right to go pick up a shovel and run their own fiber to their home :-) Actually, as a consumer, and not an LEC, I wish I had that right. Did they say who's responsibility it was to pay for it and deploy it? Yeah, the consumer should have the right to take

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Actually, from that perspective LEGAL right could be a good thing, and better if expanded I want to put an antenna on the roof, and its the only way to get broadband there, and the property manager says no. I now say YOU need to let me because its my legal right to have it. I'll legally

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I am confused: What happend to the rights granted under the FCC OTARD rules for a wirless antenna installed ? -- Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave backhaul

2009-10-16 Thread Matt Jenkins
Yep. I have about 10 links up in the air and am installing another 3 links in the next few days. Ligowave has become my preferred BH radio. What questions would you like answered? - Matt Phil Curnutt wrote: Anyone with experience using the LIgowave PTP 5n backhaul radio's? Phil

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-16 Thread Clint Ricker
I know this is an unpopular stance to take on this list, but what the hey--so are most of my postings. I actually would say this makes economic sense. If we think it is worthwhile to spend thousands of dollars per child per year to provide them an education (yeah, blatant socialism, I know),

Re: [WISPA] Competitor at -40

2009-10-16 Thread Mike Bushard Jr
Well, our conglomerate of dealers isn't too ad to work with, but in our area they are running right at 4 watts EIRP. I got them to agrre to turn them off after harvest. They just came in and putt htis stuff up, told the farmer it wouldn't hurt us at all. I think the biggest issue is that we are on