Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending your immoral and dishonest marketing. You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure

2009-12-05 Thread Jeremy Parr
Titan Wireless offers an upgrade option when ordering this enclosure that replaces all the steel with stainless. Looks nicer, goes together nicer, and doesn't rust. On 12/4/09, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: You got that right! Very difficult to weatherproof once mounted on the tower. Even if

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win against these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. Also, a T1 is

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, fail to proofread! BTW, I really hate my bad. Somehow it seemed right though. :) Bob- Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
Hah! I just rolled out my new plans with faster speeds, up to 6Mbps. He'll flip. I still cant figure out what his deal is. -RickG On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending your immoral

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
Don't rain on my make fun of the people that don't know anything about ISPs parade. -j/k u! Thats the trouble with these people. We're too busy doing the work to catch our typing abilities. I almost didnt post but Bob needed some backup. -RickG On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
LP or 78? On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, fail to proofread! BTW, I really hate my bad. Somehow it seemed right though. :) Bob- Thanks, Mike. I really do

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
You charge too much. Don't you know it's supposed to be a hobby and not a business? You are a very bad man. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Not sure. How fast does an MP3 spin? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. LP or 78? On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
I get those people once in a while. The last one turned around and asked me if I needed installers. I said, sure, if your doing it for a hobby, your hired! On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: You charge too much. Don't you know it's supposed to be a

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
at $40/meg ;P On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Not sure. How fast does an MP3 spin? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:31 PM

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Marco Coelho
T-1 = 1.544 Mbits/sec in either direction full duplex. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Guys, make sure you get your terminology right.  Someone used megabytes, so that is what he's arguing on now.  He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte transferred.  

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Scottie Arnett
Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV channel(back when

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Off topic??? On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a pothead that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit everyone on the floor. For

[WISPA] H.R. 2902: Broadband Internet Fairness Act

2009-12-05 Thread Matt
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2902 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it started. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
So ya... Idiot news guy...T1spot head smoking next door. Exponential - not linear. On 12/5/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it started. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Yup. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. So ya... Idiot news guy...T1spot head smoking next door.

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Wrong thread maybe? On 12/5/09, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #. Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the best, and therefore play

[WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off signal. I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Scott Reed
I ask them at MUM and they said this will be enabled soon. I sent it as enhancement suggestion, but have not heard anything from them. Robert West wrote: Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Thanks Scott. I knew there had to be a lot of people wanting to use the serial pins for similar things. I was surprised to see it not in the recent releases. Stopped me dead in my tracks! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Google ComCap4 - they have a package to monitor virtual serial ports. While you may not need to spend the $80 to $130 (price based on features needed) - their site discusses a free routine from sourceforge that you may find useful I'm on the road at the moment so I don't have the URL handy

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
I know it might be out of some peoples budget, but a PacketFlux Sitemonitor ($99.95) and a shunt ($50 I think) will do what you want. It is what we use on our solar sites, and we graph/monitor them to make sure that the voltage stays high enough. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Could I afford it? Yeah, I could. I just have that streak of innovation in me (just plain cheap) and I have a little time to tinker. 150 bucks is darn cheap enough to be sure and I'll probably do that once I spend 2 to 3 hundred bucks being cheap. What can I say, at least I'm honest! Bob-

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Thanks, Aaron. I'll give it a browse. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Google

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread os10rules
There are some really cool (and cheap) ASIC boards with Ethernet based connectivity that you need to write a custom program for but you could get really fancy with. They have A/D converters and you could monitor the battery voltage accurately, and you could have the device email you at the

[WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Good thoughts. I'll look those over. I think I have some isolators in my fun box that I ripped out of something I trashed, never thought of that. May as well get fancy and use the GOOD hot glue -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of get all the way in or get all the way out. I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread os10rules
This is the sort of thing I was thinking of: http://tuxgraphics.org/electronics/200904/embedded-webserver-equipment-control.shtml Something along the lines of a hobbyist kit project - cheap but some legwork involved. Greg On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Robert West wrote: Good thoughts. I'll

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread George Morris
I think you're absolutely right. We don't see health care costs anywhere on our paperwork up here in the frozen North (yes, it is snowing in the last couple of days). We just pay higher taxes to cover it which is simply a fact of life. Everyone gets a health card that is just a different coloured

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread jp
Another option would be to split into two companies to keep them the right size. A installation subcontracting company that loses you money might be good for your taxes. On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 05:50:02PM -0700, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Chuck Hogg
I was thinking of doing this on a per county basis to segment the areas, have one parent, and all the rest are subs that operate the wisp as installers, the installation revenue is given to the child companies, support is operated by the child companies, the monthly service is provided by the

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
That, my friend, sounds like the winner! Sad, isn't it? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Another option would

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Chuck Profito
Ok techowizzes, why not a $2.00 volt meter a $20-30 ethernet bw camera, w / power supply on power controller?I guess I'm the one who still uses a pencil. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday,

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
Let me tell ya, pal, that's EXACTLY what I was gonna do but thought it was way too Red Green to show to anyone else! (I have a reputation to keep up of weird and that just don't it) Sure, I probably have that stuff just laying around already and I'm sure I still have a camera hidden someplace

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Travis Johnson
A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Chuck Profito
Well I guess someone had to invent the space pen. Go to it techowizze! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial

Re: [WISPA] H.R. 2902: Broadband Internet Fairness Act

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
New York - it figures! On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2902 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Mike
Cool stuff. Hey Robert, I have a basic stamp programmer and a couple modules. Look in your junk box and trade me something. Mike At 07:16 PM 12/5/2009, you wrote: This is the sort of thing I was thinking of: http://tuxgraphics.org/electronics/200904/embedded-webserver-equipment-control.shtml

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
LOL! The next day you should've put on CMT and played AC/DC! On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a pothead that lived next

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
What Buffoon :) Maybe off topic as far as the list goes though. Oh well, its the weekend and we got our fist snow :( On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Off topic??? On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: Now I'm gonna go turn down

Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..

2009-12-05 Thread RickG
No, this came from a post on the Buffoon article. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Wrong thread maybe? On 12/5/09, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations utlizing geographical DNS

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring

2009-12-05 Thread Robert West
You mean like that PicKit3 that I never could get to work right only to find out they took out what worked in the PicKit2 and called it an improvement? Hammer. A hammer fixed my issues. I don't think it works now, though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
How about this. Give the employee's a raise and let them buy their OWN insurance! Let them finally come to understand what the rest of us have had to put up with for years.. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Here in Wa. it's $650ish for me and the three kids. $750 deductable per person. The wife's is covered by her work. No dental and a crappy vision plan. What we are missing is competition in the medical industry. It's got TOO much government interference and no lawsuit protection. marlon

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-05 Thread Kevin Neal
Call me cheap I guess. I have a $229/mo plan for my family of 4 (5 in a week or so). $7500 deductible. Next year my rate will drop, after the insurance company re-rates their HSA rates I'll be moving to the $10,000 deductible plan, that will be an absolutely no benefits until 10k is paid. I