Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Depends on your Requrements for the switch, that is not enough info. SMC has a fully featured switch that we love, the 24 cat5 Gig port (w/ 4 fiber module ports) model is about $750. It does everything.(complete VLAN, Multiple spanning tree, good monitoring stats, SNMP, Command prompt also, can

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Gino Villarini
Cisco 2970 Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net wrote: Need to upgrade several 10/100 switches to 10/100/100; I'm looking for recommendations on good reliable equipment. Will need 24 and 48 port units, Rx/Tx port

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Bret Clark
HP ProcurvesI not only consider them on the same level as Cisco's, but I think they are better for less cost. Gino Villarini wrote: Cisco 2970 Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:25 AM, "Scott Vander Dussen" sc...@velociter.net wrote: Need to

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Thx Tom- really only need rx/tx port mirroring - can your smc switch do that? I have some smcs that can only do rx or tx but not at the same time. Thx for info. Thanks, ‘S --- Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!) On Jan 12, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Tom DeReggi

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
I was looking at these- didn't know if cisco was worth all the bucks and that led me to the hps- why do you like them better? Thx. Thanks, ‘S --- Sent mobile (and probably one handed while driving!) On Jan 12, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Bret Clark

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Marco Coelho
I'll second the ProCurve. I just bought a batch of them at a very reasonable price. Solid Product. One note, if you want to use any of the really tricky configuration features, you have to do it in command line mode (easy). Otherwise, monitoring and control from either the web interface or

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Bret Clark
The command line structure is very similar to Cisco so a very minimal learning curve if you're used to the Cisco command line, plus you can do basic management with a web interface. They port mirror multiple ports to one port which is nice. They've been rock solid for us, we've been using them

Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

2010-01-12 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
I used some 4in pipe for a mast (about 15ft). Welded studs and used J mounts. On another one we used angle iron and grade 8 bolts to make a brace, welded studs off the angle. Scott Carullo wrote: I will need to... can you share with me how it is configured inside? Thinking about some UBNT

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Curtis Maurand
NetGear *GS748TS-100NAS *** You can probably find it for less than I did. Its 48 port and 988 through biz.tigerdirect.com Also here's a list. http://www.javvin.com/packetdoc/PortMonitoringSwitch.html Cheers, Curtis ** On 1/12/2010 8:50 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: I'll second the ProCurve.

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Curtis Maurand
also Adtran NetVanta 1534 Its 24 port The command line is identical to Cisco and it has a web gui. Its about 1300.00 ($2200 if you want the POE version.) from CDW, but it also has a lifetime warranty. --Curtis On 1/12/2010 8:57 AM, Bret Clark wrote: The command line structure is very

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Randy Cosby
Do you want to do MPLS in the future? On 1/11/2010 10:24 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Need to upgrade several 10/100 switches to 10/100/100; I'm looking for recommendations on good reliable equipment. Will need 24 and 48 port units, Rx/Tx port mirroring is a must! Thanks in advance,

Re: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot?

2010-01-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Right. We loose a few customers now and again because of it. But those customers have a higher cost than income so what else does a guy do? There are two things you want to do when in business right? Turn a profit. Make sure that your competitor doesn't. Off loading the high cost or high

[WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Randy Cosby
Just put up our first Apex 11Ghz link. Wondering what everyone does to seal up that port. The manual says you have to hook up the fiber / power port to metal conduit. Do you run conduit all the way back to the base? Do you just use a short piece? Do you put a compression fitting on the

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes, you are correct, several typical models, such as 100mb L2 and AL2 (These are Both full featured VLAN switches with different OSs which are similar to their equivellent gig version) only support mirroring in TX or RX per port, not simultaneous. For example To Do Calea monitoring it would

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Brad Belton
Fortunately all our Apex installations have had relatively short cable runs, so haven't used the fiber port yet. I agree the execution of this port is poor at best. I really don't care for the copper Ethernet ports either as they do not have a large enough opening for the shielded outdoor cable

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Cameron Kilton
If you have pictures of your install, or anybody for that matter, I'm sure we all would be interested in seeing them. I like seeing other ideas that make my life easier... -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Nick Olsen
I've always been a fan of the HP switches, The 1800-24G is nice, But the new one I'm liking is the 1810G-24 24 Port Gig, Port mirroring...ect.. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Nothing actually has to be done to seal it because, Trango includes a rubbery gel sleeve that compresess between the passsthru metal plate and the case, with a tight fitting hole. In most cases that can be good enough. But to answer your question it depends what Fiber cable type and Power type

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
I agree the execution of this port is poor at best. Not at all the case. Compared to other brand radios, the Apex is one of the few that actually has an easilly accessible Fiber port. Both for replacing bad Transcievers and for connecting the fiber ends. This is a PLUS, not a disadvantage.

Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

2010-01-12 Thread lakeland
Ok. There is no way to service or install equipment on a stealth pole without a manlift or crane with a basket The pole is a spindle design inside. Picture a solid pipe *axel with two solid round wheels one on each end. Now take the whole assembly and stand it on end. Now stack several of them

Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

2010-01-12 Thread Data Technology
Never say never !! Take a look at the video on this web site. http://www.flagpoleclimber.com/aboutus.html lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Ok. There is no way to service or install equipment on a stealth pole without a manlift or crane with a basket The pole is a spindle design inside. Picture a

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Randy- I don't see a need for that in our network - what practical applications would a PPPoE-based ISP have for MPLS? I don't know much about the benefits of MPLS as I've never worked with it, thanks in advance. `S -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

2010-01-12 Thread Jeremy Parr
When are you writing you how to mount anything on anything book? We have the Jack Unger book, and the Mikrotik book, you must add yourself to this elite group :-) On 1/12/10, lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Ok. There is no way to service or install equipment on a stealth pole without

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Nick- Thanks for the info - I'm looking at specifications between the HP ProCurve 1810G Switch Series http://bit.ly/5g2F0B and HP ProCurve 2810 Switch Series http://bit.ly/5Nqvwc It seems much of the capabilities are the same, with the 2810 offering a bit more horsepower at about 2x the cost

Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

2010-01-12 Thread lakeland
That's a regular flagpole. When he stated he wanted to mount an antenna and radio INSIDE I assumed he was talking about a cellular flagpole. I stoll assume that. You are never going to climb acell flagpole like in the video. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Brad Belton
This throwback port design from the Trango Summer Engineer Interns Atlas days is crap. Nothing like the professional look of a galvanized water pipe cap on a carrier class radio. The split rubber gland that is under this metal plate/water pipe cap is poor as well. I'm glad you've been lucky

Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

2010-01-12 Thread Data Technology
I guess I was in a hurry and did not read it carefully. I just read flag pole. Sorry about that. akel...@gbcx.net wrote: That's a regular flagpole. When he stated he wanted to mount an antenna and radio INSIDE I assumed he was talking about a cellular flagpole. I stoll assume that. You

Re: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot?

2010-01-12 Thread RickG
Darn right. I learned a long time ago you dont want everyone as a customer. I just fired a customer the other day. Thanks! -RickG On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Right. We loose a few customers now and again because of it. But those customers

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread RickG
I love my Dell switches. I almost bought HP units but Dell had a sale on untis with the same features. -RickG On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.netwrote: Need to upgrade several 10/100 switches to 10/100/100; I'm looking for recommendations on good reliable

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Brad Belton
Agreed, the Dell switches we've deployed have been flawless and are a great value. Dell has been very good to us, so I'm a little biased. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, January 12,

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Nick Olsen
Can't say I have. But its been a busy switch, And it hasn't missed a beat. Only thing is, I wish it had SSH. Hit me off list if you want to take a look at the web management interface. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Scott Vander

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks for all the tips guys. I'll definitely be doing it better next time. Randy On 1/12/2010 10:11 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Nothing actually has to be done to seal it because, Trango includes a rubbery gel sleeve that compresess between the passsthru metal plate and the case, with a tight

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-12 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
All our core switching is done with World Wide Packets gear (now Ciena). WWP/Ciena makes carrier grade equipment, but carries a price tag near Cisco. And also mostly geared towards fiber. The newest switches we got are the CN3940, 24-port 10/100/1000 that will take copper or SPF modules.

Re: [WISPA] Can I use Motorola Canopy 600SSB Surge Suppressor withUBNT radios or Mikrotik?

2010-01-12 Thread Scottie Arnett
Will these work with Canopy? Where can you get them? Price? They look like really nice units and they way they separate the data and power protection seems a better idea than competing products. Thanks, Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Data

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, I do not mean to argue against your points just for the sake of it, but I honestly disagree with your assessment. On Cat5... Trango APEX uses Conex passthrus the same type that Dragonwave uses for their radios. There is a reason high grade radio manufacturers pick thems, they are

Re: [WISPA] Can I use Motorola Canopy 600SSB Surge Suppressor withUBNT radios or Mikrotik?

2010-01-12 Thread Eje Gustafsson
We among many others carry this one. http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SP-POE-MJ8eq=Tp= Since this is an indoor model and should be placed as close as possible to the poe powered device to provide maximum protection to the unit for any power surge induced over you cat5 run I have

Re: [WISPA] Ubnt and OSPF

2010-01-12 Thread Jeremy Parr
2010/1/12 Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com: Make sure you have Multicast Data enabled or whatever on the Advanced tab. Pulled my hair out over this for a couple days, then realized if it's not checked, you get one-way OSPF. Checked it, rebooted, and everything has been happy since.

Re: [WISPA] Ubnt and OSPF

2010-01-12 Thread Jayson Baker
Broadcast, I guess. Whatever is default on MT. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/12 Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com: Make sure you have Multicast Data enabled or whatever on the Advanced tab. Pulled my hair out over this for a couple days,

Re: [WISPA] Ubnt and OSPF

2010-01-12 Thread Jeremy Parr
2010/1/12 Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com: Broadcast, I guess.  Whatever is default on MT. Default is broadcast. I think I may have resolved the issue by setting the AP (Rocket) and client (Nanostation) to WDS mode. The Ubiquiti is staying out of the IP path now.

Re: [WISPA] Ubnt and OSPF

2010-01-12 Thread Jayson Baker
Oh, yeah, that's a requirement too. You can't bridge without WDS. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/12 Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com: Broadcast, I guess. Whatever is default on MT. Default is broadcast. I think I may have resolved the

Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

2010-01-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Bob goes WAY beyond the books mere mortals use! marlon - Original Message - From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com To: lakel...@gbcx.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone ever mount gear on flagpole style tower?

Re: [WISPA] Can I use Motorola Canopy 600SSB SurgeSuppressor withUBNT radios or Mikrotik?

2010-01-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
The ones Eje posted are Citel indoor models. Citel also makes an outdoor model that has the same electronics as the inside model, but is in a case that looks very similar to the Canopy model. The outdoor model costs near the same as the indoor model. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc

Re: [WISPA] Trango Apex Fiber port

2010-01-12 Thread Brad Belton
Tom, I give...but only because I just don't have nearly the amount of free time to ramble as you apparently do. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent:

[WISPA] Sorry OT

2010-01-12 Thread lakeland
Every day I read, attend webinars and conferences. And do everything I can to keep up with the technology curve. And then something like the movie Avatar comes along and I realize how far behind I really am. Imax 3D and video animation unlike any other. Totally incredible. Go for the reality