Exactly. Depends on the circumstances and your market. Since we have a
retail store front, that's just bait to bring in customers. We pay almost
zero for advertising other than the yellow pages so I do what I can to
elevate the word of mouth traffic. Offering a cheapo dial-up service at a
rate
Thanks. And let's face it, there are people out there who only want dial up
for whatever reason. We still manage to pull money out of their pockets
regardless.
We also have a free wireless hotspot in the parking lot of the retail store.
Usually being used by the local porn fans..
It all depends on your market and your expenses. Here, most customers will
opt for a high speed at a high price but there are some that wont even
consider getting the service at any higher price other than 29 bucks. I
really hate leaving money on the table so I try to accommodate that. For me
I'll be there. We're all going over to Josh's house afterwards, uninvited
of course.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Ham
We have plenty of competition but the hook in what we do with the dial up
is, they have to come into the store. We arent faceless and almost every
time when they come in we tell them we have wireless in their area if they
are ever interested. So, with that we get there first!
Especially when
Beers in the fridge. First door on the right.
On 3/27/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I'll be there. We're all going over to Josh's house afterwards, uninvited
of course.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
HA! Had lots and lots of rain the other night. At around 2am I get an
alarm, everything is losing connection. Everything. EVERYTHING! Started
on it at 7am, was everyplace trying to isolate sections, was driving me
nuts. Finally, found one Bullet 5M that had a 5GHz stick antenna on it (Was
So much time spent learning how to deploy cheap Ubnt stuff. Not as
bad as MikrotikN but geez.
So the antenna full of water caused the bullet to go nuts and caused a
packet storm, is that right?
On 3/27/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
HA! Had lots and lots of rain the other
Yep. And it went everywhere. Must have got in through the inside of the N
connector, that tape was wound pretty tight and I didn't see any water
inside the tape. Took the Bullet apart, wasn't much water but the board was
moist like condensation. Dried it all out, works fine now. Smeared some
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Sorry for the bad start to your
weekend but it can only get better from there =)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that
Bridge loop, probably.
100M spitting out on to a backbone that can't handle that much bandwidth.
I had a Redline backhaul create a loop and it flooded the traffic through
the rest of the network, taking out everything up until the 100M fiber tower
at which point I had ~60M to use.
Josh Luthman
Took about half a tank of gas and climbing 5 grain legs, one twice Or
was it three times? What finally got me thinking it was that one radio is I
was using the Ubiquiti Discovery tool and kept hitting it over and over in
certain sections to see what was talking. Isolated AP's, looked at
The main thing that was throwing me is, even when I took the bad AP off
line, the rest of the network took a long time to recover. 5 minutes or so
and I wasn't waiting that long most of the time to see results, I was in a
bit of a hurry so when it didn't settle, I moved onto the next.
Bob-
Is your network routed or bridged or a combination?
Greg
On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Robert West wrote:
The main thing that was throwing me is, even when I took the bad AP off
line, the rest of the network took a long time to recover. 5 minutes or so
and I wasn't waiting that long most of
AH! And to top it ALL off, here I am, up on the top of a grain leg, out of
breath, cranky and freezing and the cell phone rings. It's the
office calling me. So and so just called and her internet isn't
working.. Uh, and you somehow don't remember that I'm out here trying
to fix
Both. Combination of Mikrotik and UBNT. UBNT bridged and the MT's routed.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes
Don't we all know that feeling...
I remember climbing 300' when it was below freezing, 30mph winds and
the snow was more wet then anything. Before I climbed one of the
customers said You're killing my business. Mind you he has had no
issues outside of this instance, 6 months since we bought the
Josh,
I love it when they are running a full fledged business but made sure
they only paid for the bottom speed and saying they were residential so
they could avoid the business rate. Then they call every day if the
tower misses more than five pings in an hour and always complain about
the
Better then being unemployed, I guess? :)
On 3/27/10, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:
Josh,
I love it when they are running a full fledged business but made sure
they only paid for the bottom speed and saying they were residential so
they could avoid the business rate. Then
I'm thinking of writing more specific SLA for this very reason.
basic service is best effort and has a 1 day response window. this
is the way to discourage businesses from being cheap.
business customers get same day response with minimum speed and uptime
standards
Sent from my iPhone
On
Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is
intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get involved but it
will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong enough case.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Define intentional? If they're practicing within EIRP is there
anything you can go after?
On 3/27/10, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is
intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get involved but
It takes a long history of showing that you have been trying to co-ordinate
with the other guy and that you have moved frequencies to avoid interfernce
only to have them move onto the same channel.
If you can prove they are intentionally trying to interfere and have not
attempted to
On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your competetor is
intentionally interfering with you, the FCC will actually get involved but it
will take a long and painful paper-trail to build a strong enough case.
if they are using amps,
Only if over the EIRP of 36dB.
One does not even need amps to be over the limit. 23dB -- 17dB panel = 40dB.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Leon D. Zetekoff
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:30 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
There is another approach to consider - sue them for tortuous interference
:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference
which has nothing to do with RF interference, but rather refers to
intentionally disturbing or destroying your business relationship with your
customers.
Tom S.
I guess what's important to identify was whether the damage was caused by
Ethernet segment or RF segement.
If radio went crazy and started generating Ethernet wire traffic or bridge
loops or what ever, thats not really a reason to bash the Bullet. Any
product could lockup to
create a similar
Negative. I know of an ISP using 5 watt amps on 2.4ghz omni antennas.
They have been reported several times to the FCC, and nothing happens.
Travis
Microserv
Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
On 03/27/2010 03:58 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
Regarding the competetor, if you can prove that your
This is really the only way to handle this. Send them a cease and desist
letter because they are interrupting your service and serve them certified
mail. Then go after them with a lawyer.
Unless the entity that is receiving interference is the FCC or works for
them, I would say you have no
Routed or bridged network?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:46 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject:
At least he's honest.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:47 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA]
HA HA
Doesn't your wife answer the phone @ the office...
Time to take her next door for some chinese food and have a chat ;-)
On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Robert West wrote:
AH! And to top it ALL off, here I am, up on the top of a grain leg,
out of
breath, cranky and freezing and the
Anybody service the Medford, Grants Pass, Rogue River Vally area?
Phil
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I have a question about STP. Would it offer any benefit in this setting:
Wired connections -
Wireless connections --
Sat modem -MT Router-Buffalo WHR-HP-54G running dd-wrtPS2 as
WDS APPS2 as WDS AP
Remember when Marlon said to use latex gloves under your thinsulate ones?
Well being cheap, I bought nitryl plastic ones instead. Once I suffered
from near frostbite I learned my lesson. The box of gloves I bought at
harbor freight are now under the kitchen sink for toxic duty. Don't use the
Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky wheel gets the
grease.
Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending ISP,
previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case.
Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are affecting other
Sorry I side with Travis.
I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, Philly and
DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and workforce
they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections that
they are required by law to do.
There
Eh??
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ham Fest
No one anywhere really cares about the boxes or what's in them. Not the
sender, shipper, or receiver.
You said you were coming to my house so I had to point out the
important thing - the fridge.
On 3/27/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Eh??
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March
I said UNINVITE!You necer listen.
:)
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ham Fest
Beers in the fridge. First door on the right.
On 3/27/10,
Actually, when doing my diag I first disabled the LAN and all was well so it
was the LAN side causing the issue Makes sense since the lan connector is
at the bottom where the water would collect, At least to me it seems to be
logical
Bob-
- Original Message -
From: Tom DeReggi
I love the FCC. They all my friends on InYourFaceBook.Com.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
You know it to be true, neighbor. (For those of you who don't know, Gene is
next door) Gene, you suck. But you already know this, I'm sure. HA!
I just don't understand the need to call me whe I'm trying not to fall to my
death,.
Bob-
Original Message -
From: Glenn Kelley
ok, I can see how more recently with budget cuts that would be the
case.
I guess the alterative of pursuing it as a civil matter is your only
course but good luck getting a sympathetic judge who doesn't
understand the technology.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Lakeland
Ah, but I use the handwarmers. Love them! But never tape them to anything.
they saved many of my fingers this winter.
I keep them in my pocket for just in case
Bop-
Mother in law calls me Bop. I have no idea why.
.
- Original Message -
From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
To: 'WISPA
Love the fridge.
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ham Fest
You said you were coming to my house so I had to point out the
important thing - the
Really. You suck
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network... Sigh
You know it to be true, neighbor. (For
HA HA
;-)
On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:00 PM, Robert West wrote:
Really. You suck
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire
Great! Whos making lunch plans?
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I'll be there. We're all going over to Josh's house afterwards, uninvited
of course.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Any preference on places to eat? Not sure what exactly is good and near
Hara.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Sun,
I eat anything as long as its cooked :)
I'm not very familiar with Dayton but Google offered this huge list:
http://www.placefacts.net/restaurants.php?id=13931
This place takes online reservations but may be too fancy:
http://www.flemingssteakhouse.com/
I'm hoping someone knows a place that has a
Looks like Josh is making the plans. Unless it's at some food court.
Or a Rallys. You're such a cheap SOB sometimes, Josh..
Honestly
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March
I vote for the Josh's Wispa Cafe:
- Original Message -
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ham Fest
I eat anything as long as its cooked :)
I'm not very familiar with Dayton but Google
What?
Just cause I owe you cash for two racks? You still suck.
- Original Message -
From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network... Sigh
HA
And tonight, I'm up on the top part of a ladder (Do Not Use As A Step) and
the phone rings.. What ya doin'?
I'm leaving the phone in the van from now on.
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday,
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