Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday to US!

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
I'm lookin' for ya. I'm swinging but I'm not hitting anything.. Ah, forgot. I fight like a girl. Sorry. I always forget about that... Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent:

[WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
ack-timeout can be dynamic or indoor - that might help. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:16

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Nick Olsen
Turn the power down? Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:16 AM To: motor...@afmug.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
If it is a Mikrotik AP you could do a connect list and limit the signal strength to a respectable number. This way anyone who is further away from the AP would not meet the minimum threshold to connect. Otherwise I would do some scripting. Have a time limit of a couple of hours. After

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
most WIFI is like 40 miles max, nstream removes that limit? --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line

Re: [WISPA] Note of support for the WISPA Regional Meeting

2010-07-07 Thread Randy Cosby
Putting my Chamber of Commerce hat on... How about St. George, UT? :) or V E G A S :) Randy On 7/6/2010 4:38 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: I think we should start the chant now Randy... VEGAS... VEGAS... VEGAS... V-E-G-A-S... :) Travis Microserv Randy Cosby wrote: Are there plans

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Matt
WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots. Is that legal? Or is it state by state? Matt

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
Exactly. Might as well deal with them and either stop them or annoy them. Either way they move on. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Gino, Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two? Simply state you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use then hit accept to keep using it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread richard sterne
Would an attenuator do this. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Sounds fair Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS?

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
Your answer is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Security_Services#FIPS_140_validation_a nd_NISCC_testingits a crypto thingy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:21 PM

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Stuart Pierce
Sell them a Mikrotik hotspot and setup a password, trial options and advertisments. One advertisement can say, hey sign up for a faster speed and no annoying advertisements. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
That adds cost and effort, keep in mind. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Stuart Pierce

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yes, you can play with ack timing and limit the range, so I've been told. I do use manual ack timing here for just that reason. Greg On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work?

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
But if it¹s a restaurant they might not want to do technical support. Anytime you have a hotspot you have a learning curve. We have several clients who expressly do not want a splash page, hotspot, etc. They don¹t want to be technical support. Pros and cons to everything. You can make the

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator is going to decrease the RX sensitivity. Greg On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:58 PM, richard sterne wrote: Would an attenuator do this. Richard

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/7/2010 03:36 PM, Greg wrote: Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator is going to decrease the RX sensitivity. I agree. And keep the hot spot inside, away from the windows. The walls will attenuate the signal too. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at

[WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Anyone have coverage there? Thanks! Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
http://www.anywhereinternet.com/ Try those folks. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:15:54 -0430 To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Nope. Thanks anyway. Greg On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: http://www.anywhereinternet.com/ Try those folks. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
Thinking outside the box, could there be an ever changing authorization code that would be posted maybe via Led sign inside the business offering g the free Wi-Fi? Code good for maybe an hour? I'm only an idea person. The rest is up to you... (Translation=Me Lazy) Bob-

Re: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS?

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
I hate thingys -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Windows 7 - Is FIPS for DIPS? Your answer is here

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
Technical support.. Turn your damn wireless card on!!! That's usually the extent of it. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:31 PM To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes, Ft Lauderdale FL

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
Yes! Call Rusty Butler (Palm Beach Broadband) 561-502-9504. I copied him on this email. -RickG On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have coverage there? Thanks! Greg

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
I just turn down the power. But I know you know that! On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons,

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
I do that too :) On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/7/2010 03:36 PM, Greg wrote: Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator is going to decrease the RX sensitivity. I agree.  And keep the hot spot inside, away from the

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
I was thinking about some way for the restaurant to identify the MAC addresses of the machines customers have in the restaurant (maybe a simple code 3 digit code would pop up on the customer's web browser, the restaurant operator could use that code to identify the MAC address and allow access.

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Good lord are you mad?!?! No restaurant owner wants to do that massive amount of work... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
We have some open spots. When tower usage spikes Tim starts looking. So when we see an obvious offender, like a mac logged on for 2 days, we just block him. if we get a complaint, we'll turn it back on, but 98 times out of 100, no complaints. Actually, Tim's batting 100% because I don't

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Mike
I wish you were going to St. Louis. Your idea rocks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I think your only reasonable attempt with no support requirements is to cut the ack time. Anything else reduces the coverage inside the establishment or increases support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/7/2010 10:16 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
A thought occurs... If you know what mac/IP are bad people then redirect them to a page that says: You're getting Internet illegally. Please contact your service provider. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final,

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
small change: Please contact YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP A