Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing....

2008-07-21 Thread reader
insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing Right. Madwifi ( http://madwifi.org/ )

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents

2008-07-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
We have not ran into that yet. But thanks for letting us know. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 3:34 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing....

2008-07-21 Thread Charles Wyble
Right. Madwifi ( http://madwifi.org/ ) is pretty good but having trouble keeping up with new Atheros models. MadWiFi is a sort of reverse engineering.Atheros knows how the chipsets work and you can buy the documentation, raw code, the secrets of the HAL, everything, by

Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing....

2008-07-21 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
But the control point would be at the tower, not remote. I know some WISPs operate in remote areas, but this is more for a high density urban deployment, similar to what you would use AirSpan or Alvarion for. The reasoning behind the FDD style deployment would be to help compete against

Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing....

2008-07-21 Thread Charles Wyble
Doug Ratcliffe wrote: But the control point would be at the tower, not remote. I know some WISPs operate in remote areas, but this is more for a high density urban deployment, similar to what you would use AirSpan or Alvarion for. Right. Makes sense. I re read the original post. My

[WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Cowan
With some of the Wimax discussions going on I thought I would throw my hat into the ring. 3.650 Wimax using 802.16d only products provides decent connectivity, at a higher cost than traditional unlicensed gear. Performance/coverage is on par, or better than 2.4 that most of are used to. Pay

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Scottie Arnett
Mike you have peaked my interest with the 900Mhz against the 3.65. Were any of these tests done with hills? My problem is we have hills, and lots of them and trees too. You can't drive much more than a mile without going up a hill with a change of 100 - 150 ft in elevation. Anyone tested or

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Cowan
Hi Scottie, No, all flat ground but Midwest trees. Your scenario would be an interesting test. Mike At 07:59 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote: Mike you have peaked my interest with the 900Mhz against the 3.65. Were any of these tests done with hills? My problem is we have hills, and lots of them and

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Right, but my point was that Mikrotik doesn't need to be worrying about virtualization. They need to put some more work into QA and USEFUL feature expansion, like into 802.11 and 802.16, not Xen. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Now this is a 180* of what others have told me, even others offering traditional, D, and E products. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Michael Baird
Same here, I thought it was all marketing hype, if it works like the poster mentioned, we will need to consider moving up our timetable for evaluating wimax, 10k a basestation suddenly isn't that bad with the performance described. Regards Michael Baird Now this is a 180* of what others have

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Cowan
Many of you have known me for years, some wish they didn't :-). I am the doubting Thomas type and have to test myself before I recommend products to a client. Lets just say that Thomas was satisfied. Now the clients are echoing the same and that is what drives my wagon. Message-Id: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread John McDowell
I believe it. Today we had a 1.5 mile shot through dense trees using Redline Redmax 3.65. Customer was getting close to 500k upload. Signal held steady at 88db on a 1-story house. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Mike Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of you have known me for years, some

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
So, how much does this stuff cost? Brian John McDowell wrote: I believe it. Today we had a 1.5 mile shot through dense trees using Redline Redmax 3.65. Customer was getting close to 500k upload. Signal held steady at 88db on a 1-story house. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Mike Cowan

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread John McDowell
I hear RedMax is coming down in price on CPEs when you buy a pallet of 72. Sub $400. Mike, I'm interested to know what Alvarion is pricing the 3.65 gear now that it is available. Have they come down at all? On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how much

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
What about APs? John McDowell wrote: I hear RedMax is coming down in price on CPEs when you buy a pallet of 72. Sub $400. Mike, I'm interested to know what Alvarion is pricing the 3.65 gear now that it is available. Have they come down at all? On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Brian

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread John McDowell
Depends, sub $10,000. Boun Senekham at CTI can help you with a quote if you're interested: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about APs? John McDowell wrote: I hear RedMax is coming down in price on CPEs when you buy a pallet

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations - question

2008-07-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Charles Wu wrote: So, seeing the activity on this latest thread regarding Nanostations has peaked my interest...so, to satisfy my own curiosity, I decided to do some research on Nanostations You didn't do quite enough research. :-) (I'm making a lot of assumptions

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: They just copied someone else's card, though I forget now who. It's in the FCC docs. IIRC, the MT cards are relabled Compex cards. -- *Butch Evans*Professional

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Jim Patient wrote: Spell checker must have got Dennis. He meant Virtualization (Zen). Got Jim, too...he meant Virtualization (Xen). :-) -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah. And out here Century Tel gets $60 to $109 per month (depending on who you talk to) per pots line in USF funds. Gee, I wonder why they require a pots line for DSL And they can sell DSL at retail rates at or below the wholesale rates. Man, what I could do with an extra $100 per

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-21 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: Right, but my point was that Mikrotik doesn't need to be worrying about virtualization. They need to put some more work into QA and USEFUL feature expansion, like into 802.11 and 802.16, not Xen. You don't think XEN can be useful? I have it in testing

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-21 Thread 3-dB Networks
I think I mentioned last week that we were going to be doing testing with Aperto gear. We were so impressed that we are finishing up the paperwork to become a VAR for them (not sure if any of the other VAR's on the list are). I've been a skeptic of 3.65 WiMAX since the day it was mentioned too

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Hammett
If you needed virtualization of some type, you could install it as the host OS, then install your Mikrotik or Asterisk or... on top. I guess I meant things that we can't already get somewhere else. Mikrotik themselves has to do a lot of things, but we can do Xen on our own. -- Mike

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-21 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I would have bet any amount of money that I saw "polling" as an option in the AirOS stuff... but now that I am looking for it, I can't seem to find it. :( Travis Randy Cosby wrote: Where is the polling you refer to? Is that in the beta firmware or something? I haven't noticed it.

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-21 Thread Gino Villarini
Maybe you got confused with the OSwave firmware Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, July

Re: [WISPA] The nanostation thing....

2008-07-21 Thread Jon Langeler
I can't say whether I'm interested in your ideas yet or not. But unless you wanted to develop syncronization or some specific function of a centralized server for the base stations I don't see the point of adding the additional complexity. Canopy for example has synconization without the need

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-22 Thread reader
Marlon, my friend, that is the wrong viewpoint. This is the RIGHT one... Imagine the sales I could make if the taxpayers weren't subsidizing CenturyTel. The secret is not to become dependent upon subsidy... The best is to take it from those who have built an entire industry of exploiting it,

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Mike Cowan
I believe we were at 37dbm EIRP at both ends of the link. I agree that we can't change physics and I expected the same letdown that we all had when OFDM hit the scenes for 5.8ghz. All the tests I mentioned were using Alvarions base station with 2nd order diversity. 2nd order nets a 3db

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone know how extensive the Tranzeo / Aperto collaboration is? http://www.tranzeo.com/investors/press.php?id=82 I wonder if that WAS a Tranzeo CPE you used? Randy 3-dB Networks wrote: I think I mentioned last week that we were going to be doing testing with Aperto gear. We were so

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-22 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I don't usually agree with Mark's viewpoints, but I agree with this one 100%. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, my friend, that is the wrong viewpoint. This is the RIGHT one... Imagine the sales I could make if the taxpayers weren't subsidizing CenturyTel. The

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread 3-dB Networks
Tranzeo and Aperto are not collaborating at all (actually Tranzeo wanted to rebrand the product their own). What is going on is they are using the same manufacturer. The PS and Case are the same, beyond that everything on the inside is Aperto. Trust me, I was very concerned about this when I

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
There is nothing wrong with subsidees. Its the only way to level the playing field, in david vs goliath markets.. The problem is how subsidees are given and the criteria for how one qualifies. Subsidees are meant to be taken advantage of. Its what enables someone to survive, that otherwise would

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Which picture matches? http://www.apertonet.com/products/pmax_subscriberunits.html -Hal -Original Message- From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread 3-dB Networks
The packetmax 100... it looks very similar... the PoE's are identical (not sure if the power output is the same but they look exactly the same) The case instead of being flat on the panel does have something of a raise, but if you have seen a Tranzeo before, the first thing you are going to think

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread John McDowell
The 300 looks like the Redline cpe On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Harold Bledsoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which picture matches? http://www.apertonet.com/products/pmax_subscriberunits.html -Hal -Original Message- From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-22 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
But you really are not harming the subsidized utility. For example, we have about 900 customer on our public utility. We charge them a little more than $10 for local service. $9000 per month. But the FUSF, SUSF, and NECA settlement probably amounts to 2-3 million a year. If you take my

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Harold Bledsoe
They are made by the same company along with a Moto wimax cpe and a few others... -Hal -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Date:

[WISPA] A glorious victory

2008-07-22 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Just got back from a county commission meeting. We appealed conditions placed on a conditional use permit for a new tower. They wanted us to provide a full acre of fall protection clearance around the tower (leased land). That acre would be conveyed to the county. They wanted the parcel

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Booher
10k is NOT the price for an 802.16e solution- Try closer to 20-40k per sector Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Booher
Brian, Depends on many factors. The price point of 10k per sector is usually assuming you are talking about purchasing 1-6 sectors. Most of the MFR's are able to and willing to come down in price considerably when frame orders or larger deployments are taken into consideration. Best

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Booher
Eric, How can it be possibly legal to use a 36dbm sector in 3.65ghz, unless you are talking about using a 3dbi antenna at the base? Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Eric Muehleisen
You are correct. Don't shoot the messenger. -Eric Jeff Booher wrote: Eric, How can it be possibly legal to use a 36dbm sector in 3.65ghz, unless you are talking about using a 3dbi antenna at the base? Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

2008-07-22 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: If you needed virtualization of some type, you could install it as the host OS, then install your Mikrotik or Asterisk or... on top. It's not that it was something I needed, but am using it since it is already installed. In order to get the particular

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread John Valenti
Mike, This does seem to good to be true. Could you provide more details on these links (for instance, tower heights, or maybe even coordinates that I can look over the path)? I was at a roadshow earlier this year. A Redline rep was there, he said that 3650 wasn't all that great thru trees.

Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory

2008-07-22 Thread Brian Webster
Nice victory Chuck. That guy was out of control. In all the zoning hearings I have ever participated in around the US, never had they gotten as restrictive as that guy tried to be! Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
John Valenti wrote: Mike, This does seem to good to be true. Could you provide more details on these links (for instance, tower heights, or maybe even coordinates that I can look over the path)? I was at a roadshow earlier this year. A Redline rep was there, he said that 3650

Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory

2008-07-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Good job! -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] A glorious victory Just got back

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Mike Hammett
Which is not your average WISP... -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread Mike Hammett
That's probably EIRP, not radio power. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:54 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread 3-dB Networks
Mike I hate to say it but I don't think WiMax is intended for the average WISP... lots of carrier grade functionality that the WISP market doesn't need, but really drives up the price (I think its supposed to do 6 9's for availability?) It sucks that its going to limit the WISP's with small

[WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-22 Thread Jack Unger
Guys and Gals, To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on the following question. In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per independent WISP? I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you believe that your number

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread John Rock
A 4-5 dBi antenna gets you to 10 watts which would be legal in theory with a 10 MHz wide channel ;-) Wind load would be very small for that sized sector --- heeehhe John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread John Rock
I would disagree. WiMAX should be a goal for most WISPs to get into their networks over the next 1-3 years. Why??? Roaming!!! It will be the real deal and the WISP market, if they do the right things, will be able to setup roaming agreements to exist with each other all over the USA. CPE will

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Yunker
Because many WISPs operate as part-time or shoe-string type operations, I would venture to say that the average WISP has less than 1000 CPE deployed. On the other hand, if you were to ask the question in a different manner... perhaps frame the question: Of those WISPs that have at least one

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread 3-dB Networks
I agree 100%... every WISP should really look at 3.65. The problem is the base station cost... I don't know many small WISP's that will be able to afford a 10k base station. Many have a hard time deploying say Canopy AP's that cost $1200 or so. My point is, unlike Canopy, Tranzeo, Ubquity,

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread 3-dB Networks
John, From what I understand all manufactures are required to use the same GPS sync, so all WiMax gear with the appropriate timing settings equal can be timed together. Apparently the FCC is requiring it for the equipment to be certified. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field

2008-07-22 Thread John McDowell
I agree with you. Being a small WISP, we really took a risk investing in RedMax gear for the simple fact that we are so rural. Selling Business Internet and Voip bundles with a small PBX phone system is the only way we're really going to see a decent return on this system in the near future. The

[WISPA] NS1 - KML conversion

2008-07-22 Thread Rogelio
I'm looking for scripts (perl, python, etc) that turn Netstumber (or equiv) data into the KML files necessary for Google Earth. So far, I've only found the following googling. http://code.google.com/p/ns2kml/ Has anyone found any others that work well?

Re: [WISPA] NS1 - KML conversion

2008-07-23 Thread Ryan Langseth
http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/map?form=wifi Ryan On Jul 23, 2008, at 12:34 AM, Rogelio wrote: I'm looking for scripts (perl, python, etc) that turn Netstumber (or equiv) data into the KML files necessary for Google Earth. So far, I've only found the following googling.

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd say the average WISP is close to 300 - 400. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless talking about residential single family homes. Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting residents served. I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve an average of

[WISPA] Need a Karlnet base station license

2008-07-23 Thread David Hulsebus
We had a bad storm that killed my last spare Karlnet base station this week and I have about 35 client systems I don't want to change out yet. My distributor said Proxim quit selling the license keys this year. The last board I have is loaded with SG4200 software and I wouldn't mind keeping it

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Good point, maybe circuits per WISP? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:44 AM To:

[WISPA] Edge Router or L3 Switch?

2008-07-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Hey, looking for some input here.. We have a single 100 Mbps Ethe Uplint to the net, with another one turning on in some weeks. Currently we have a Cisco 7240 handling the single Eth Circuit, but we need to upgrade to a beffeier unit. Would it make sense to put a Cisco L3 Switch instead of a

[WISPA] OFFLIST: Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Jack Unger
Yep - I'm keeping it in mind. Tom DeReggi wrote: just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless talking about residential single family homes. Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting residents served. I average 5 businesses per CPE

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Jack Unger
Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average number of CPEs per

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread reader
Jack, how are we supposed to know? The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500 responses and average them. And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is. Is it the guy who covers an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles away?

Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST: Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread reader
:: laugh :: Jack, it happens even in the best of regulated families :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:28 AM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread David E. Smith
Jack Unger wrote: Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average

[WISPA] PacWireless POE

2008-07-23 Thread John McDowell
Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also provide surge protection? The good the bad, the ugly? -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information

[WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread Gino Villarini
What is it? How do I activate the buzzer? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread John McDowell
i think its something like set Buzzer 1 Do you have any manuals? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is it? How do I activate the buzzer? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax

Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

2008-07-23 Thread Jim Patient
We use the 48, 24, and 18v and they have worked great for us. They have surge protection. Just be sure the ground in the 110 plug is actually grounded. Jim John McDowell wrote: Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also provide surge protection? The good the bad,

Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

2008-07-23 Thread John McDowell
awesome, thanks On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Jim Patient [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use the 48, 24, and 18v and they have worked great for us. They have surge protection. Just be sure the ground in the 110 plug is actually grounded. Jim John McDowell wrote: Has anyone used the

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Tried that, no workie -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command? i think its something like set Buzzer 1 Do you have any manuals? On

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread John McDowell
yeah, i tried it to...no workie I look through some of the manuals and see On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried that, no workie -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: WISPA

[WISPA] PowerDsine POE injectors

2008-07-23 Thread John McDowell
Anybody need some? I'm trying to get rid of them and buy something with built in surge protection. HIt me off list if interested -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread Eric Muehleisen
ON: set boardConfig Buzzer 1 OFF: set boardConfig Buzzer 0 They are not very accurate. I would still recommend that you have someone on the remote end giving you a verbal. -Eric John McDowell wrote: yeah, i tried it to...no workie I look through some of the manuals and see On Wed, Jul

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread John McDowell
set boardConfig Buzzer 1 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried that, no workie -Original Message- From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread John McDowell
lol...3 at once On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: set boardConfig Buzzer 1 -Matt On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:14 PM, John McDowell wrote: yeah, i tried it to...no workie I look through some of the manuals and see On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM,

Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I prefer to use PacWireless PoE over any other. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I prefer to use PacWireless PoE over any other. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

2008-07-23 Thread reader
I use them occaisionally and find they work ok. I once ran a box on them that ran them close to full power, and it fried them within 2 weeks. I went through two of them rapid fire before I found a different solution. Other than that, they've been good for me.

Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

2008-07-23 Thread Sam Tetherow
What is your other solution? I haven't had too many problems, but we do occasionally have the POEs go bad so I'm interested in other options. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use them occaisionally and find they work ok. I once ran a box on them that ran

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
If the WISP filed their for 477 truthfully, the FCC should already have an idea of what the average is out of the WISPs that filed. Considering how many do or don't file them, I am not sure how accurate their data will be. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

2008-07-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Thanks to all Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:27 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

2008-07-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I agree with that. But, reality being what it is marlon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need. Marlon, my friend, that is the wrong viewpoint. This is

Re: [WISPA] Need a Karlnet base station license

2008-07-23 Thread Sales
Been so long what is the Sg4200 license? We are decommissioning a large amount of Karlnet and will be selling them off. We have down some kn205 base stations with the license for base station mode. Michiana Wireless, Inc. John Buwa, President   http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com 574-233-7170   Lose

Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory

2008-07-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
lol coolness marlon - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] A glorious victory Just got back from a county commission meeting. We appealed conditions placed on a

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It's not possible to know that for sure. But if I had to guess I'd have to say 500 to 1000 these days. But there are getting to be a LOT of wisps with 1000+++ subs these days. I remember reading about one that's 25k subs. I think that a more important number would be the number of homes

[WISPA] Freespace Systems Introduces the first 1, 000mW High Performance 802.11b/g Radio

2008-07-23 Thread George Rogato
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080723/20080723006177.html?.v=1 I got a couple of these in my hands to sample yesterday. Haven't had a chance to experiment with them yet. George WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We have an official definition of a wisp. It was part of what we had to define in order for a person/company to be a principal member. marlon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: Re:

[WISPA] Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning

2008-07-24 Thread Eric Albert
Thought the community should be aware of this one. A rather lengthy blog detailing the exact mechanics of DNS cache poisoning got leaked yesterday. -Eric http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/security/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=209401195 http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113 The

[WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Mike Hammett
While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and

Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory

2008-07-24 Thread Joe Miller
You rock!!! It isn't often when you are able to out do the planning dept. Crow...Man...Crow!!! --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date:

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? --

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Mike Hammett
heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From:

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal

2008-07-24 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh,

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