[WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
one manufacturer of 900MHz mini-pci cards? (Ubiquiti SR9) Also, do you think it is it too late in 2007 to start a WISP? ;) Last, would 700MHz system eventually creep in over a few years and eat my lunch? Thank you all and as always, good luck to all WISPs! Best Regards, Allen Marsalis am

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 11:29 AM 9/10/2007, you wrote: Wow, I think the last time I saw this guy was WISPCON-Dallas... the first one if there was more than one. That was me. There is only one me, that's for sure. :)Dallas WISPCON was my last convention. Allen

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 11:42 AM 9/10/2007, Bob Moldashel wrote: YeahThat was him And yes..it was the first one. Because I was at the second one ( I think) and he banged in sick for the show (or something...) Bob I remember missing you in Chicago but not Dallas. If I ever knew you were in Dallas, I'd

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 11:42 AM 9/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG! I guess you dont love me anymore because you dont return my emails :-( I do love you Bob and I'm truly sorry about that. Around '04 I used to spend about 4 to 6 hours a day on email and my new boss put an end to all that.

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 11:49 AM 9/10/2007, you wrote: You 900 idea souns interesting, but youll need a 900 muni client and/or 900 pcmcia card for customers Thanks much for the reply Gino. My idea is like muni wireless in that there really is no CPE per se. With muni wifi, each node is on top of a light pole

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 12:56 PM 9/10/2007, Steve Stroh wrote: Allen: Metricom did. Thanks, Steve Thanks for the reply Steve. Can you share if they were able to make it work or not? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Allen

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 01:02 PM 9/10/2007, George Rogato wrote: So does this mean that you now agree with me that little wireless cards can be used for wireless broadband? George :) Yes George I do. In fact I used pcmcia cards back in '03 and '04 at ShreveNet for residential pops with good results after we

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Marsalis Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:17 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks I was a WISP in the late 90s and early 00s. Some of you may know me. It's good to see many familiar faces still here. In recent years

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
, there must be at least 8 people left in the country without broadband, and I want to give it to them! ;) Allen At 01:05 PM 9/10/2007, David E. Smith wrote: Allen Marsalis wrote: I take it that nobody has ever built a 900MHz NLOS mesh network before. Which is not a good sign to me. That's a sign

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
Thanks George. Sounds like wise advice to me considering all the things happening within the industry in recent years. Google is petitioning the FCC for nationwide prime spectrum? I'm short a few billion it seems.. Even if my idea is technically doable, then I must go find the right

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 04:00 PM 9/10/2007, John Valenti wrote: Allen, It sounds as if you might be proposing this for a suburban or even tree filled urban environment. One problem you might run into is clear spectrum in 900MHz. I've use Trango gear out in rural areas, where it works OK. I've only done a few scans

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 05:12 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote: Allen: Metricom's long out of business, but technologically, they made it work (albeit at ~28 Kbps, and later ~128 Kbps). One of the key things they did to make it work at 902-928 MHz is to use FHSS and small channel sizes rather than fixed, wide channels as

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 06:37 PM 9/10/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Allen, great to see you pop up on the list again. You've been missed. Thanks Patrick. I trust all is going well with you. I hear you are now vice president. Great job! (I mean that both ways. You do a great job and have a great job) :) Our

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
I'm proud to say no Canopy shirts in this house Gino! I can't afford them. (major ducking) :) Allen At 08:35 PM 9/10/2007, Gino Villarini wrote: I'll bet they prefer the Motorola Canopy T-shirts! ;-) ... ducking!

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-10 Thread Allen Marsalis
I was only about a half year off. Not bad for an old man. :) I'm not sure I remember your youngest though. A belated congratulations to you! I know you are proud of them both. My son is now a freshman in high school and has outgrown me already. Homecoming is this Saturday. Wow how

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-11 Thread Allen Marsalis
Message- From: Allen Marsalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:30:01 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks I was only about a half year off. Not bad for an old man. :) I'm not sure I remember your youngest though

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-11 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 08:21 AM 9/11/2007, Jeff Broadwick wrote: Nah, he uses it to hide the Romulan Ale when he goes to movies and ball games. :-) LOL, I haven't had any Romulan Ale in a while. I needed a laugh. Remember this one? I used to have a life, now I have customers I might add, Now I have no

Re: [WISPA] IP Assignments

2007-09-12 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 02:24 PM 9/12/2007, Mike Hammett wrote: I'm not sure when it was changed, but you need one less bit of address space to get your own, direct allocation. http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four222 You now only need two /24s to request your own /22 from Arin. Yeah but will everyone

[WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-12 Thread Allen Marsalis
Hello Allen, Good to see you back and doing well. Curious to hear your take on the MobilePro saga. On or off list is good with me. The Friends Quite a few people have asked me (A) what have I been doing lately? And (B) please tell me the MobilePro saga. It means a lot to me that

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-12 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 06:35 PM 9/12/2007, Gino Villarini wrote: Using dif radios for wifi and backhaul isn't mesh any more? How so? I was under the impression that mesh was the ability of the equipment to form a interconnection between the nodes with alternative paths to the Internet feed I hate to be a

RE: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-12 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 10:44 AM 9/12/2007, D. Ryan Spott wrote: and like a typical dot-com they spent and expanded far faster than they should have 'cause hey, there's a second round coming and when they went looking for that second round, the large investor played their strategy and said no second round for

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-12 Thread Allen Marsalis
Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Allen Marsalis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks I was a WISP

RE: [WISPA] Legal Charges used in Malicious Interference Situations

2007-09-12 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 08:49 PM 9/12/2007, Mac Dearman wrote: We (all the WISP's) have a pact in N. Louisiana - - no one buys Canopy! Wrong!! See www.bluebirdwireless.com... NW is now polluted thanks to motos sales team infecting our 911 center and recruiting their employees to quit and join the

Re: [WISPA] Thoughts on 900MHz mesh networks

2007-09-12 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 12:13 AM 9/13/2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, The biggest problem I see when looking at mesh is having access to all those locations... people's homes, light poles, telephone poles, whatever. You now have to install UPS systems, rebooters, have the equipment some-what secure, etc.

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
Patrick, thanks for the follow up. True, I am very fortunate and lucky indeed. I did not loose any money with my shares and not all the ISP's can say that. Some were only able to sell MOBL after it fell into the teens or lower. I still have a beautiful wife and two healthy/smart kids. And

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 10:21 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Anyway, after BreezeCOM Bruce went on looking for the Next Big Thing, first trying to lead the old Wave Wireless out of Sarasota, FL. That did not go so well and he went on to start-up a new chip company. That went south and the next I heard was that

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 11:03 AM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Thanks for taking the time to touch on some of your experiences with MobilePro. As you know my interest is because Jack Beech is my brother, Jack Belton, brother-in-law. Am I reading this right? Jack Beech is your brother? Your last name is Belton

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 01:04 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Sorry for the confusion. No Jack Beech is my brother's (Jack Belton) brother-in-law. Ah, yeah now I remember you telling me that years ago. I do appreciate you refreshing my memory. Jack Beech was somehow friends of the CEO (Jay Wright) and after

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 10:21 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Your tale is certainly a cautionary one. My advice to WISPs is that if you are trying to exit via a sale of the company you built with your blood, sweat, tears and personal dollars ONLY sell for cash. Here is an additional cautionary thought FWIW.

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 10:28 AM 9/13/2007, Patrick Leary wrote: ...And by the way Allen, whatever the route you took to get back, I am just glad you are. As I said before, you were missed. You were, are, and always will be one of the good guys. One day many of us should hit the porch with some scotch, a good

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 03:30 PM 9/13/2007, Joel White wrote: Jack was also a consultant for Kite and was tasked with solving the CPE problem of the no CPE needed Muni-Wifi deployments. LMAO, now Joel, out of respect for Brad I will not comment further on Beech on these boards. Brad drove out of his way to loan

RE: [WISPA] The MOBL Sage (Warning: Long Post)

2007-09-13 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 03:38 PM 9/13/2007, Brad Belton wrote: Yes, I remember Jack always speaking very highly of Jay Wright. I never met Jay, but I hear he can sell ice to an Eskimo...a real slick Willy if you know what I mean. Did you have much contact with Jack or Jay? I negotiated the sale of my company

Re: [WISPA] Locustworld meshes?

2007-09-14 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 04:01 PM 9/14/2007, Japhy Bartlett wrote: How come nobody seems to be using it? The first Locustworld/meshbox/ultramesh deployment in the US was around 2000 a few dozen miles north of me in Vivian LA, (Fastline?) I met with the owner last year. Basically he was an WISP worth about

Re: [WISPA] Locustworld meshes?

2007-09-14 Thread Allen Marsalis
Exactly my point George. I don'/t... Allen At 09:16 PM 9/14/2007, George Rogato wrote: Allen Marsalis wrote: I'm just asking why you think you need something else besides BGP or OSPF. OSLR -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Locustworld meshes?

2007-09-15 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 10:24 PM 9/14/2007, George Rogato wrote: Optimized Link State Routing protocol (OLSR) is a routing protocol that is optimised for mobile ad-hoc networks, sometimes called wireless mesh networks. It is a proactive link-state routing protocol that floods a full topology table to all nodes in

RE: [WISPA] Locustworld meshes?

2007-09-15 Thread Allen Marsalis
At 09:39 AM 9/15/2007, chris cooper wrote: Id be interested to see how they worked with high gain directional antennas. With the proper antennas you could pick up some penetration, help pick through noise and change polarities. Anybody used the Meraki boxes this way? Please follow my train