Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-23 Thread David E. Smith
Jack Unger wrote: Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average

Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

2008-07-24 Thread David E. Smith
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We have an official definition of a wisp. It was part of what we had to define in order for a person/company to be a principal member. Without knowing what Jack's up to, I imagine the more important part would be how does the FCC define a WISP. They probably have

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

2008-08-01 Thread David E. Smith
George Rogato wrote: [ about The Dude ] But it must take up a lot of resources to do this to a large 1000 node network. It's not quite real time - The Dude's bandwidth indicia on its maps update every 30 seconds or so. That's roughly how often MRTG and Cacti (and basically everything else)

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitor

2008-08-01 Thread David E. Smith
Dennis Burgess wrote: It does have a browser interface :) Technically true, but the Dude's Web interface is sorely lacking. You can look at stuff, but most configuration changes (especially to maps) require the Dude client. There's also the minor annoyance, for some, that The Dude requires

Re: [WISPA] Mailing List Preferences Error

2008-08-01 Thread David E. Smith
Joshua Rowe wrote: Just wondered if anyone else had this happen and if the list management was aware. Well, now /everyone/ knows I'm playing with mod_security rules. :P David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You!

Re: [WISPA] How to contact list admin?

2008-08-22 Thread David E. Smith
Cooper Marcus wrote: I've tried emailing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on the list web page here http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless but my message was bounced back with the following error: If you're trying to contact the board, use the Web-based form at

Re: [WISPA] Considering ARIN and buying our own IPs....IPv4? IPv6

2008-09-05 Thread David E. Smith
John McDowell wrote: We are looking at our first redundant fiber connection from a second carrier and feeling the need to have our own IPs so that this will work out well. If you're multihoming, yeah, it'll be a lot easier if you get your own ASN and allocation of IP space. The tricky bit is

Re: [WISPA] CentOS iSCSI

2008-09-16 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote: Any recommendations for an iSCSI SAN device that will work with CentOS? Storage capacity isn't so much an issue as reliability, availability, and cost. I haven't used it, but I've heard good things about OpenFiler. (Basically, it's a customized Linux distribution that

Re: [WISPA] Push to install Mobile Broadband on laptops

2008-10-01 Thread David E. Smith
Jack Unger wrote: Top computer makers, mobile operators and technology providers announced on Tuesday that upcoming laptop computers would feature mobile broadband making them ready to surf right out of the box... Dell, at least, has offered notebooks with internal air cards pre-installed

Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-07 Thread David E. Smith
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: One of my biggest pet peeves is that there is no standard first IP address for units. Tranzeo uses 192.168.1.100, Deliberant is using 192.168.2.66, Teletronics is 192.168.0.240, SmartBridges used 192.168.0.24 or .22, and the list goes on and on.

Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-07 Thread David E. Smith
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: H, sounds like a good project for a wispa committee to work on. Care to head up that effort? I can certainly try to coordinate people, but I'm nowhere near qualified to run the show. I can take names with the best of 'em, though. (Anyone

Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-07 Thread David E. Smith
Note: What is standard? Trango is not standard 802.11, it is a proprietary product. Therefore its appropriate that its MIBs may not be 802.11 standard MIBs. I'm not saying that it is not good for vendors to standardize. But manufacturers may have a larger goal such as backward compatibility

Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave

2008-10-08 Thread David E. Smith
Matt Jenkins wrote: You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti. I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc. The standard interface traffic OIDs are there on most of the recent

Re: [WISPA] ISPs in US

2008-10-09 Thread David E. Smith
Tom DeReggi wrote: There had been numerous counts in excess of 7000, and some counts as high as 10,000. That was before we were counting WISPs. I have no idea where this is recorded factually. Heck, before you can even count ISPs you have to define ISP. Depending on how picky you want to

Re: [WISPA] ISPs in US

2008-10-10 Thread David E. Smith
Mario Pommier wrote: It's an interesting objective, actually. Here's the scenario. I'm looking for the number of ISPs in the US (small to medium ISPs, not Verizon and Time Warner and the like) who have 50 or more business customers. Maybe this kind of definition helps. Wisps, cable, dsl

Re: [WISPA] easily importing long/lat into Google Earth

2008-10-26 Thread David E. Smith
How do you import longitude and latitude data into google earth? (I'm googling on how to do it, but don't see an easy answer) If you're using Google Earth Pro ($20 a year), you can feed it a spreadsheet with up to 100 individual items. If you do this sort of thing a lot, or have more than 100

Re: [WISPA] importing addresses into google maps.

2008-10-26 Thread David E. Smith
I have MySQL database the has our nogo's, pending surveys and pending installs listed in there. I would like to be able to show them in google maps. Is there an api that will import the addresses from a MySQl database and display those address on a webpage with google maps? The Google Maps

Re: [WISPA] importing addresses into google maps.

2008-10-27 Thread David E. Smith
Hello. I messed with the google maps api last year when i toyed with this idea and the problem i ran into was the api wanted longitude and latitude imputed not street addressing. Has this changed or am i missing something?? The page to which I originally referred you:

Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing

2008-10-30 Thread David E. Smith
Travis Johnson wrote: What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Did you

[WISPA] Mikrotik: how to restore backups to identical hardware

2008-11-05 Thread David E. Smith
My network has a couple dozen RouterOS systems (mostly small RouterBoards) doing a number of jobs, from simple routing and DHCP server to this is a vital backhaul link. I kinda know my way around networking concepts, so should a board fail, replacing it is easy enough. And none of our

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik: how to restore backups to identical hardware

2008-11-05 Thread David E. Smith
Scott Reed wrote: Backup does require nearly identical equipment. Not a problem; we really only use two or three boards here, and spares generally are readily available. The problem is, I want to make this simple enough for the receptionist to do. Go edit a bunch of MAC addresses from this

Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply?

2008-11-17 Thread David E. Smith
I would buy one today if I could. But if everyone bought these, where would we get those power lines for BPL? :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] News you can use: Net Neutrality Advocates In Charge Of Obama Team Review of FCC

2008-11-18 Thread David E. Smith
Susan Crawford, a professor at the University of Michigan Law School, and Kevin Werbach, a former FCC staffer, organizer of the annual tech conference Supernova http://www.supernova2008.com/, and a Wharton professor, will lead the Obama-Biden transition team's review of the FCC. Both are

Re: [WISPA] BitTorrent to go UDP in next release

2008-12-09 Thread David E. Smith
Josh Luthman wrote: I don't believe Comcast lied nor lied about it. I read in the news that they announced their monthly bandwidth limits and Bittorent throttling practices became well known. Is this not the case? I do believe that limiting the type of traffic is wrong, however the amount

Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-17 Thread David E. Smith
Mark McElvy wrote: I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or Rolla Missouri. Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town? Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent

Re: [WISPA] 802.11y // Thoughts?

2008-12-26 Thread David E. Smith
Drew Lentz wrote: Will the new 802.11y standard affect the sales of proprietary WiMAX equipment? Since 802.11y gear operate in the 3650 - 3700 MHz band in the US, and it's based on WiFi, isn't it a better alternative to all that expensive WiMAX gear? Depends on your definition of better. It

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2008-12-31 Thread David E. Smith
Josh Luthman wrote: We have all had the pleasure to earn a customer that has three kids nagging at him for a PC and Internet access with that extra bonus check from work, but think of the countless older couples or less fortunate families that could really use the help catching up with the

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:14, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:00, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Nintendo said to be integrating Netflix into Wii console Nintendo is developing a way to integrate Netflix streaming into its Wii gaming console, according to a published report. The system could be available by the

Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix andyoutube...increaseddatadelivery is here to stay.

2009-11-16 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 13:54, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: That just doesn't seem right - PS3 is known to have all kinds of custom stuff. Can't you download and install Linux without a disk? On older PS3 units, you can (they removed all pretense of backwards-compatibility

Re: [WISPA] How do you control outgoing SMTP?

2009-11-18 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 15:29, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Ok, so we are passing back and forth negatives/positives of our current SMTP policy, and are looking for answers on what others are doing. I'm going to list what we have done, currently doing, and looking for feedback on

Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?

2009-11-27 Thread David E. Smith
Out of idle curiosity, have any of you IPTV folks priced CableCARDs? There's a certain appeal in having customers provide their own equipment. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?

2009-11-27 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:49, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: CableCARD's don't accept Ethernet...? I was assuming using IP as a convenient way to deliver TV, as in a fiber deployment (where the end-user only sees coax). David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 09:53, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Ok, but you still don't HAVE to have a car - hence you don't HAVE to have insurance. With the new plan, no matter what, I HAVE to pay for insurance. But you also have to be healthy. Unless of course you're harboring

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:45, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Bottom line is auto insurance is not required. However, they are proposing government run health insurance will be required and you will be fined and put in jail if you don't buy it. [citation needed] David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] health insurance

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:57, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: While I haven't read the entire 2000+ page proposed bill I apparently have read more of it than you. Clearly not, or else you'd know that the fine actually is just a tax penalty, and that the current draft of the Senate Finance

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 16:42, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The free market really does work. We use it daily in our business... Now imagine if we used it for health care, too.We know how to do that, don't we? There is a fundamental difference between broadband Internet and

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 18:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run in a free market. It's failure is exactly due to this. Even after all the government rules and regulations, who in the USA does not have access to health

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 20:15, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: No, not that simple... This I gotta hear. How do you justify not providing health care to any human that needs it? David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 19:52, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, I like that idea. Will you pay for my health costs then? That's exactly how single payer works. Everyone pays in a bit, nobody worries about it. I'll pay my share if you pay yours. :) David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:22, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Actually, most of the advancement now is coming from other countries. We're behind but since we live in it, we can't smell it. We rank near number 37 in health care, that certainly is not being a leader. Even our

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:29, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: They will come up with new drugs, not to worry. Even at 5 bucks a bottle they can make millions. Besides, they choose to leech cash from us because we're the only fools to allow it. Turn off the spigot and they will

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 21:37, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Medicare reimburses doctors, hospitals, etc, somewhere between 10 and 60% of the COST of what people who are on medicare actually get.The rest of us who actually PAY are paying to subsidize them. Source? (The real number

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:21, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: David, Forgive me, this is not a personal attack. I dont see it on your website so I have to ask, you dont own mvn.net do you? The reason I ask is that you come off with an employee mentality rather than from an owner

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
Source please? http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq (The overhead numbers come from Won't this be just another bureaucracy?) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:06, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Um, thats what happens now. I pay mine and you pay yours. So, wheres the problem? Oh ya, there are those that cant or choose not to. So now we want to force them to? And I thought this country was founded on freedom? The key is

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 22:46, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Think of the stereotypical government agency. Driver's license office. Last time I was there, I was in and out in about ten minutes. Granted, that was several years ago; the last few transactions I had with them were

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 23:01, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://www.cahi.org/cahi_contents/resources/pdf/CAHI_Medicare_Admin_Final_Publication.pdf The Council for Affordable Health Insurance (CAHI) is an association of insurance companies, actuarial firms, legislative

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-07 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 23:06, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I've always thought this was really pretty easy. Dave, just pick ONE family and pay their insurance for them! It's well within your right to do so. And it helps one other family afford health care. I'm trying to

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 09:22, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy with how one company is ran, you can move to another. Except that you often can't, thanks to the weasel words pre-existing conditions. And even

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012

2009-12-09 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 21:18, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses to stream to everyone in the house. I think the business customers

Re: [WISPA] Introducing NetCare

2009-12-09 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 23:01, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Introducing Federal NetCare, the program to make broadband available to everyone. Broadband Internet isn't the same as BASIC HUMAN WELFARE and you know it. One is (literally) a matter of life-and-death, the other isn't. Please

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012

2009-12-09 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 09:23, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yeah, you can now go buy a Linksys at wal-mart that is both 2.4 and 5 so it's now spilling over to the 5ghz. I have a customer who has one but unfortunately you can't operate both the 2.4 and 5 at the same time, it's

Re: [WISPA] Wind!

2009-12-09 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:12, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Windy today, supposed to have gusts up to 50mph before days end. You haven't lived until you've seen a 100' freestanding tower swaying in the wind on a day like this. Simultaneously awesome and terrifying. David Smith

Re: [WISPA] Wind!

2009-12-09 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:21, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: You mean being on a 100ft self supporting tower in wind like that :-) I don't climb, because I'm not insane. :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012

2009-12-09 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 14:11, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: You can run GigE over 5e. Not reliably, in my experience. Longer runs are more likely only to negotiate up to 100Mbps. I know it often works, but I wouldn't want to depend on that. David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice

2009-12-14 Thread David E. Smith
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 20:42, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Tim Sylvester t...@avanzarnetworks.com wrote: - connect CPE equipment to electrical service that was funded by the Rural Electric Administration. Another bad deal. I'm gonna have to call

Re: [WISPA] Broadband compared to electricity of the early 1900's

2009-12-15 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:30, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Why is it we think that the same people who cannot clean up Hanford (they have yet to clean ONE SINGLE TANK OF WASTE in decades of effort!) despite decades of promises and countless billions in budget overruns, cannot

Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation

2009-12-16 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:40, Shaddi Hasan shad...@gmail.com wrote: I must have missed this discussion, but could someone point me to some threads where this conclusion was reached, or what some of the rationale was? Not trying to argue just trying to understand. The first two that come up

Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice

2009-12-17 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 21:56, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: No, you were right, I was quoting from the Guide, it's just your response reminded me of the guy who worked out 42 as the actual number. Google calculator comes up with 42, also, if you do a search for the meaning

Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

2009-12-17 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 13:24, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: So how did it get through? :) The grants were reviewed and scored by independent volunteers (I was one), who scored each of them using a fairly complex rubric. It covered things like does this meet one of the

Re: [WISPA] noise floor.... going up!

2009-12-22 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:31, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 08:02 -0700, Phil Curnutt wrote: I wouldn't let PETA hear about that. PETA? People Eating Tasty Animals. One of my college roommates seriously tried to start a campus group by that name. Never

Re: [WISPA] noise floor.... going up!

2009-12-22 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:12, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: Bob Barker said that a lot too. Now Drew Carey is saying it. Supposedly (I can't find a source for this right off), since Bob Barker was a producer on the show at the time, continuing Bob Barker's signature sign-off

Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

2009-12-28 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:31, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: We have actually started putting hot melt over the reset buttons on company provided routers. We just use little round stickers, of the sort found at finer yard sales and flea markets. Serves our purpose well enough, is

Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers

2009-12-28 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:03, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: We just bill people if they reset the routers. Though I've had enough people tell me that they didn't reset them that I'm convinced that the Linksys units WILL reset themselves. No one pushing any buttons. If the

Re: [WISPA] OT, help with ip addresses

2010-01-04 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:01, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Hi All, I'm very close to putting my two networks together and will be able to run BGP. We're also in need of some more IP addys. Can anyone there help me get through the process of picking up my own IP space?

Re: [WISPA] 2010: One Question for WISPs

2010-01-04 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 14:34, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Things like Netflix do pose an interesting challenge to ISPs and I'm not sure how best it gets addressed. Too bad users don't accept metered use of their broadband like they do their cell phone use. Sprint, at least,

Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

2010-01-07 Thread David E. Smith
but a CDMA version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint). Oh how I wish this were true. Even though the technologies are compatible, Sprint refuses to activate Verizon phones and vice versa. Google is attempting to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly

Re: [WISPA] Surplus Tranzeo 900 Radios for sale

2010-01-13 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 15:47, Bill Gaylord bi...@torchlake.com wrote: What are the model numbers of the Tranzeo 900 Radios? They're all TR-902-NFs. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX firmware question

2010-01-14 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 08:50, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: The reason the Apex18 was upgraded was because it would just stop passing data even though the rssi, BER, MSE and link lock status all showed good. So far we haven't seen the issue again, but this problem only surfaced every

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 15:45, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Before I start tearing into things and make a mess for myself, can one have a public IP behind a transparent bridge? Yup. I can vouch for Josh Luthman's instructions. Heck, I have the whole turn a pair of Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread David E. Smith
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it working for you. If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all the hard work, and host all my users' email.

Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs

2009-01-06 Thread David E. Smith
Frank Muto wrote: As a ENET distributor, I'll agree with Mark. After testing various hosted services for 18 months, I decided on ENET back in 2006. For a hosted service I feel it is the best all around email service you can offer your customers. We use ENET mostly for backup continuity

Re: [WISPA] ping

2009-01-07 Thread David E. Smith
gnip I thought the canonical response was pong. (Sorry for any delays in email in the last 90 minutes or so, VMware is giving me fits and I was tinkering with a guest - specifically, the all of WISPA's outbound email goes through here guest.) David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee? It's the same hardware, but you can't use one Barracuda to do both jobs. You buy one, and you can switch the software from

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can tell what user's email address is compromised because all the mail delivery errors I'm getting don't show one. Yeah, my latest few problem children have been using our Web site, and

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the annual fee as well correct? Yeah, you'd have to keep up the Barracuda subscription on your outgoing filter as well, if you want to block current viruses and such from leaving your network. I think

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail. It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good smtp spam filter is never a bad idea. The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The attackers are using

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread David E. Smith
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: According to the website one box is capable of running as either/or. (I thought) But not both at the same time :( David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote: What about forcing those accounts to change paswords? I've been doing that - again, I'm trying to be proactive rather than reactive. If I told my boss yeah, we need to change everyone's password he'd laugh at me. And not in a funny-ha-ha way. The computer belonging to the

Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

2009-01-09 Thread David E. Smith
Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote: Yes you have to have a good processor, it does compression. I also believe it does MPPP as well, and larger frame sizes as well to get higher speeds. Hence, processor usage is key. When I was testing this - pretty informally, two radios set on the

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-09 Thread David E. Smith
Scott Lambert wrote: Have your techs look at each cutomer's password every time they talk to a customer. The customer is already on the phone, Dang, forgot my password again. Help them to choose a better password. Doesn't help, when the problem is their PC has keylogger software on it

Re: [WISPA] Imail Server Upgrade Trouble

2009-01-18 Thread David E. Smith
The Imail upgrade issue has been resolved (in case anyone's curious, it was an odd IIS permissions problem). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] Test (please ignore, no response required)

2009-01-18 Thread David E. Smith
Just finishing up a couple things on the misbegotten new mail server. Please ignore this message. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Additional New Member Overlooked

2009-01-19 Thread David E. Smith
Rick Harnish wrote: I just found one more new member, bringing the total to 19! I thought they weren't members until they actually paid? (I know this sounds like a smart-ass remark, but the distinction may be relevant in the future. If there were an election next week, say, they wouldn't be

[WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread David E. Smith
A lot of the more expensive radios out there let you do bandwidth throttling by device - instead of throttling by IP address, or device MAC (because you could have several MACs behind one radio), you simply say this radio gets X down/Y up and you're done. Is there a simple way to do this with

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Josh Luthman wrote: Many client radios can do pppoe as well as Windows has it's own pppoe client I am told that works quite well. (not trolling) PPPOE requires extra configuration for every client, requires extra configuration at every tower, and yields relatively little practical benefit -

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Jeremy Davis wrote: I really don't get the love affair with PPPOE; I assume there's something I'm missing, and I've always been curious as to what. There is a lot of cool things you can do with radius / pppoe systems, change an IP if they haven't paid which can redirect customers to

[WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Not really, but is everyone else seeing lots of extra traffic from people streaming inauguration-related events in DC? My network is pulling basically double the traffic of a normal Tuesday. (There's a lesson about capacity planning in here somewhere...) David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Everyone on NANOG has been saying the same. We're actually seeing close to triple on downloading today, starting about 9AM EST. Thankfully no issues on capacity at all on our end... That's where I stole the idea for this email from :) NANOG tends to be bigger operators, and I thought this

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
John Valenti wrote: I think Hulu (at least) was having problems. We had a viewing party in our conference room. I had ABC over-the-air on the projector, but kept a computer streaming Hulu on backup. It seemed to be consistently about a minute behind the live broadcast. On election

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread David E. Smith
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency

Re: [WISPA] Odd email...

2009-02-09 Thread David E. Smith
Blair Davis wrote: You have been unsubscribed from the Announcements mailing list. That's because, while finishing up the other stuff Rick Harnish mentioned, I made a couple typos and accidentally unsubscribed everyone. Twice. I am a human wrecking ball, apparently. Everyone has been

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread David E. Smith
Does anyone produce a complete Mikrotik Routerboard Access Point- ie.- routerboard, radio cards, pigtails, enclosure etc.? Of late, I've been using Jeffco SoHo (www.jeffcosoho.com/catalog) partly because they're only a hundred miles away, and even ground shipping arrives the next day. They also

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread David E. Smith
D. Ryan Spott wrote: As for antivirus, just use http://www.clamwin.com/ or http://www.clamav.net/ ClamAV was designed as a mail-scanning package, and it shows. There's no real-time scan component for Windows, and historically it's done a poor job of detecting things that aren't normally

Re: [WISPA] What does this mean to wisps?

2009-02-13 Thread David E. Smith
Dennis Burgess wrote: They are starting to roll out 60meg down 5up. Only in test markets So far, that's one test market. Probably coincidental that the one market they're doing that (Saint Louis, MO) is the market where their corporate headquarters is located, and presumably where most of

Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now

2009-02-16 Thread David E. Smith
Dylan Bouterse wrote: I just had some BGP issues with one of my peers. Is this related you think? Please expand on the reason for the email. Folks on NANOG are reporting that AS48438 is doing some very silly stuff (like trying to stuff in hundreds of AS-path prepends), which makes some BGP

Re: [WISPA] make sure you are filtering AS48438 right now

2009-02-16 Thread David E. Smith
Mike Hammett wrote: However, situations like this are why a lot of people don't take WISPs seriously. I figured the original question: what is that? was a means of saying what is this ASN and why should we be filtering it. The original post in this thread was a BLANK email. It just said

Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

2009-02-17 Thread David E. Smith
os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't see an online repository of scripts for

[WISPA] Let's talk about that stimulus some more!

2009-02-17 Thread David E. Smith
I made a copy of the stimulus bill's complete text, just so you don't have to go searching through the Library of Congress database to find it (not that it's hard to do), here: http://images.bureau42.com/sa/stimulus.htm This is the version that both the House and Senate have passed, and which

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