Re: [WISPA] BPL
RickG wrote: Anyone doing BPL? I'd like to know your experience. What equipment did you use? How did you manage it? -RickG Rick, do you mean BPL inside buildings? Or BPL as a network broadband option over power lines? Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] BPL
Anyone doing BPL? I'd like to know your experience. What equipment did you use? How did you manage it? -RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] BPL AARl
The ARRL this week notified the US District Court of Appeals -- DC Circuit that it's appealing certain aspects of the FCC's Part 15 rules governing broadband over power line (BPL) systems. League members are worried the FCC is giving them the shaft when it comes to Ham Radio vs BPL, and are going to bring their concerns to court. http://technocrat.net/d/2006/10/12/9022 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] BPL Announcement in Texas
Posted from the Monday edition of www.dallasnews.xom, see links below and at end of story--Tom, WW5L http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-txu_19bus.ART.State.Edition3.bf6a1c.html TXU grid to carry Internet service New partner to offer broadband connection using power lines 08:10 AM CST on Monday, December 19, 2005 By TERRY MAXON / The Dallas Morning News A couple million Texans may soon be able to get their Internet broadband service by plugging into their electrical outlets. A Maryland company is teaming up with TXU Electric Delivery to offer North Texas consumers Internet broadband service over TXU's electric lines. In a deal to be announced today, TXU will pay about $150 million over 10 years for an ownership stake in Current Communications Group Inc., which will turn TXU's transmission system into a smart electricity grid. In turn, Current plans to offer broadband service over TXU's lines. Current Communications uses broadband over power lines, or BPL technology, to hook up customers to the Internet using the electrical outlets in homes. BPL has been touted as a cheaper, more efficient way to get broadband service to customers who aren't easily reached with cable companies' service or DSL service from telephone companies, or wireless service from a cellular phone company or wireless broadband company. However, BPL also competes head-to-head with established broadband providers, as Current is doing in Cincinnati, where it partners with electricity provider Cinergy Corp. As it plans for TXU, Current is building a network atop Cinergy's system to help Cinergy keep track of its power grid. TXU and Current will begin designing the network that will overlay TXU's electric distribution system. Construction is expected to begin in the first half of 2006, with the first BPL service for consumers not expected before the second half of the year. Current Communications' BPL network will cover about 2 million homes and businesses in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and other Texas cities, traversing the majority of TXU Electric Delivery's service area, the companies said. TXU Energy, Reliant and other retailers obtain power over TXU Electric Delivery's grid. With the consumer application not coming until later, TXU and Current officials touted the smart-grid functions, which will allow TXU to monitor its widespread system. TXU Electric Delivery, a part of TXU Corp. and formerly called Oncor, operates more than 14,000 miles of transmission lines and 100,000 miles of distribution lines taking electricity to 3 million customers. Current's BPL solution is a critical enabler of our mission to dramatically improve the way we deliver electricity, TXU Electric Delivery chairman and chief executive Tom Baker said. BPL will enable us to respond more quickly and efficiently to outages of all magnitudes, manage our distribution network more proactively and further safeguard our dispersed critical assets in today's heightened security environment, he said. Added TXU spokesman Chris Schein: We're looking at ways to increase the system reliability and make it really a 21st-century grid. As part of the deal, TXU would become an equity partner in privately held Current, which is based in Germantown, Md. Other shareholders are Cinergy, EnerTech Capital, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Google Inc., the Hearst Corp. and Liberty Associated Partners LP. Liberty Media Corp. is a major limited partner in Liberty Associated. William H. Berkman, chairman and co-founder of Current Communications Group and managing partner of Liberty Associated Partners, said the TXU deal is solid evidence of how BPL answers the federal government's recent call to create a more efficient and reliable 21st-century electricity distribution network. One of the promised features of BPL is the ability to read meters without having to send an employee. Mr. Schein did not commit TXU Electric Delivery to using that function but said it was a possibility. We have been in the process of installing automated meter readers, he said. That certainly is a capability that will be available. Last summer, the Texas Legislature approved a wide-reaching telecom bill that set rules for installing BPL systems on electric lines. The service faced heavy opposition from amateur radio operators concerned that radio waves from BPL systems would interfere with existing wireless systems. E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How it works Broadband over power lines (BPL), still in its infancy, carries a broadband Internet signal over the electricity grid. Here's a simple explanation of a complicated technology: A high-speed broadband line sends the signal to a device that puts it onto a power line delivering electricity. Devices to repeat the signal are used to keep it strong as it moves along the line, as necessary. Another device extracts the signal from
Re: [WISPA] BPL Announcement in Texas
And maybe, the temporary FCC experimental license whichtemporarilly has allowed BPL today, will be allowed to continue to exist? Or not? Still a risky investment, until BPL has been given a perminiate license to exist. Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: [WISPA] BPL Announcement in Texas Posted from the Monday edition of www.dallasnews.xom, see links below and at end of story--Tom, WW5L http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-txu_19bus.ART.State.Edition3.bf6a1c.html TXU grid to carry Internet service New partner to offer broadband connection using power lines 08:10 AM CST on Monday, December 19, 2005 By TERRY MAXON / The Dallas Morning News A couple million Texans may soon be able to get their Internet broadband service by plugging into their electrical outlets. A Maryland company is teaming up with TXU Electric Delivery to offer North Texas consumers Internet broadband service over TXU's electric lines. In a deal to be announced today, TXU will pay about $150 million over 10 years for an ownership stake in Current Communications Group Inc., which will turn TXU's transmission system into a "smart electricity grid." In turn, Current plans to offer broadband service over TXU's lines. Current Communications uses broadband over power lines, or BPL technology, to hook up customers to the Internet using the electrical outlets in homes. BPL has been touted as a cheaper, more efficient way to get broadband service to customers who aren't easily reached with cable companies' service or DSL service from telephone companies, or wireless service from a cellular phone company or wireless broadband company. However, BPL also competes head-to-head with established broadband providers, as Current is doing in Cincinnati, where it partners with electricity provider Cinergy Corp. As it plans for TXU, Current is building a network atop Cinergy's system to help Cinergy keep track of its power grid. TXU and Current will begin designing the network that will overlay TXU's electric distribution system. Construction is expected to begin in the first half of 2006, with the first BPL service for consumers not expected before the second half of the year. Current Communications' BPL network will cover about 2 million homes and businesses in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and other Texas cities, traversing the majority of TXU Electric Delivery's service area, the companies said. TXU Energy, Reliant and other retailers obtain power over TXU Electric Delivery's grid. With the consumer application not coming until later, TXU and Current officials touted the smart-grid functions, which will allow TXU to monitor its widespread system. TXU Electric Delivery, a part of TXU Corp. and formerly called Oncor, operates more than 14,000 miles of transmission lines and 100,000 miles of distribution lines taking electricity to 3 million customers. "Current's BPL solution is a critical enabler of our mission to dramatically improve the way we deliver electricity," TXU Electric Delivery chairman and chief executive Tom Baker said. "BPL will enable us to respond more quickly and efficiently to outages of all magnitudes, manage our distribution network more proactively and further safeguard our dispersed critical assets in today's heightened security environment," he said. Added TXU spokesman Chris Schein: "We're looking at ways to increase the system reliability and make it really a 21st-century grid." As part of the deal, TXU would become an equity partner in privately held Current, which is based in Germantown, Md. Other shareholders are Cinergy, EnerTech Capital, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Google Inc., the Hearst Corp. and Liberty Associated Partners LP. Liberty Media Corp. is a major limited partner in Liberty Associated. William H. Berkman, chairman and co-founder of Current Communications Group and managing partner of Liberty Associated Partners, said the TXU deal "is solid evidence of how BPL answers the federal government's recent call to create a more efficient and reliable 21st-century electricity distribution network." One of the promised features of BPL is the ability to read meters without having to send an employee. Mr. Schein did not commit TXU Electric Delivery to using that function but said it was a possibility. "We have been in the process of installing automated meter readers," he said. "That certainly is a capability that will b
RE: [WISPA] BPL Announcement in Texas
Now also remember all the hams who are really pissed off with a lot of the BPL technology. It sends noise all over the shortwave bands. The FCC has turned a blind eye to this with the current administration and the desire to push broadband to the masses. I expect that hams will start to exercise their rights to 1000 watts of power which will blow any BPL based on those systems off the air, then the police will get involved in federal matters because some whiner in the neighborhood will blame the ham who is legally licensed to use the frequencies, is messing with their internet. Being that this is in the shortwave bands it also has international treaty implications as far as interference. Yes Tom I agree with you it is a risky business, Motorola and their Canopy BPL hybrid seems to have avoided all of these pitfalls, I guess it helps when a lot of your engineering staff are licensed hams. The BPL story will get ugly before it becomes successful, if any of your are interested, pop over to the ARRL site www.arrl.org and see what the hams are doing to fight this technology. Hams are not against broadband but they are against being interfered with when they have licensed spectrum being polluted by unlicensed gear. The unfortunate problem is the old adage of the benefit to the masses, hams are outnumbered by internet users (and powerful utility company money). Thank You, Brian Webster N2KGC -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BPL Announcement in Texas And maybe, the temporary FCC experimental license which temporarilly has allowed BPL today, will be allowed to continue to exist? Or not? Still a risky investment, until BPL has been given a perminiate license to exist. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: [WISPA] BPL Announcement in Texas Posted from the Monday edition of www.dallasnews.xom, see links below and at end of story--Tom, WW5L http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-txu_19bus.ART.Sta te.Edition3.bf6a1c.html TXU grid to carry Internet service New partner to offer broadband connection using power lines 08:10 AM CST on Monday, December 19, 2005 By TERRY MAXON / The Dallas Morning News A couple million Texans may soon be able to get their Internet broadband service by plugging into their electrical outlets. A Maryland company is teaming up with TXU Electric Delivery to offer North Texas consumers Internet broadband service over TXU's electric lines. In a deal to be announced today, TXU will pay about $150 million over 10 years for an ownership stake in Current Communications Group Inc., which will turn TXU's transmission system into a smart electricity grid. In turn, Current plans to offer broadband service over TXU's lines. Current Communications uses broadband over power lines, or BPL technology, to hook up customers to the Internet using the electrical outlets in homes. BPL has been touted as a cheaper, more efficient way to get broadband service to customers who aren't easily reached with cable companies' service or DSL service from telephone companies, or wireless service from a cellular phone company or wireless broadband company. However, BPL also competes head-to-head with established broadband providers, as Current is doing in Cincinnati, where it partners with electricity provider Cinergy Corp. As it plans for TXU, Current is building a network atop Cinergy's system to help Cinergy keep track of its power grid. TXU and Current will begin designing the network that will overlay TXU's electric distribution system. Construction is expected to begin in the first half of 2006, with the first BPL service for consumers not expected before the second half of the year. Current Communications' BPL network will cover about 2 million homes and businesses in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and other Texas cities, traversing the majority of TXU Electric Delivery's service area, the companies said. TXU Energy, Reliant and other retailers obtain power over TXU Electric Delivery's grid. With the consumer application not coming until later, TXU and Current officials touted the smart-grid functions, which will allow TXU to monitor its widespread system. TXU Electric Delivery, a part of TXU Corp. and formerly called Oncor, operates more than 14,000 miles of transmission lines and 100,000 miles of distribution lines taking electricity to 3 million customers. Current's BPL solution is a critical enabler of our mission to dramatically improve the way we deliver electricity, TXU Electric Delivery chairman and chief executive Tom Baker said. BPL will enable us to respond more quickly and efficiently to outages of all magnitudes, manage our distribution network more proactively and further
[WISPA] BPL
*** BPL Growing More Popular *** http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/content/contentDetail.jsp?id=188591 You know a technology is getting hot when, in the space of a month or so, key players attract investment from the likes of Google, Intel and Motorola. That happened recently with broadband over power line (BPL), yet another contender in the crowded contest of last-mile broadband technologies that includes cable, DSL, fiber and various wireless approaches. As its name indicates, BPL sends megabits per second of data over the lines that deliver electric power from substations to homes and businesses. And according to supporters, it offers advantages that even the famously cautious electric utility industry finds hard to resist. ___ Brought to you by America's Network Magazine: www.AmericasNetwork.com-RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
