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Mark Nash wrote:
> I'm having a heck of a time finding providers in my area (Eugene, OR) from
> which I can backhaul to my network.  Anyone know of a good site or have
> contacts for people who could quote in my area?  We're looking for 30-40
> megs at this point, but if we COULD get these 100meg ports at a reasonable
> rate, we'd go for it.
>
> Mark Nash
> UnwiredWest
> 78 Centennial Loop
> Suite E
> Eugene, OR 97401
> 541-998-5555
> 541-998-5599 fax
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>
>
>   
>> There deals clear down to $7/meg.
>> Ask vendors for a 2 year contract, GigE 100 Mbps burstable.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>
>>
>>     
>>> http://www.nefiber.com/
>>>
>>> Recently, I learned that American Fiber Systems has "InterCity Fiber
>>> Ring" that connects Las Vegas, Reno/Carson City, Boise and Salt Lake on
>>> a fully redundant OC-192 capacity backbone.
>>> They aren't cheap on the low end at $2000/month for 5 meg burstable to
>>> 10, but I image the price per meg drops quickly as the bandwidth goes
>>>       
> up.
>   
>>> These guys do fiber in California
>>>
>>> http://www.fiberinternetcenter.com/
>>>
>>> They do 5 meg burstable to 10 at $1595-1995 but they told me they can do
>>> 100 meg for about $7000 per month.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Right.  I'm amazed at how many ISPs out there don't know who these
>>>> providers
>>>> are, or the carriers outside of the RBOCs, or what connectivity
>>>> possibilities are in their areas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jason Hodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:15 PM
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Right, it is not. It is a embedded content provider for web sites.
>>>>>
>>>>> J Hodge
>>>>> 630.445.3779
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>           
> On
>   
>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:53 AM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not saying it's not possible, but I doubt that there is much much
>>>>> BitTorrent traffic coming from Limelight.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Jason Hodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:41 AM
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Sounds like bit torrent. What ports is the traffic on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J Hodge
>>>>>> 630.445.3779
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>             
> On
>   
>>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:43 AM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I grabbed all of Limelight Networks' IP blocks and created a queue
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> my MT core router. I am currently seeing about 8-9Mbps upload with
>>>>>>             
> only
>   
>>>>>> a 500kbps download. Any idea why I would be seeing so much "upload"
>>>>>> traffic (coming from 10-15 different customers)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> 208.111.168.6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Travis Johnson
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40 AM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you happen to have the IP blocks it was coming from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>>> Since no one answered, I got NetFlix myself and added it to my
>>>>>>>               
> XBox...
>   
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> bandwidth is coming from Limelight Networks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not quite as open as Youtube's "Yes, we will peer with you.", but
>>>>>>>               
> they
>   
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> an open peering policy....  that'll happen when you're generating
>>>>>>>               
> 1000
>   
>>>>>>> Gbps
>>>>>>> of traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM
>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Can anyone provide the ASN the streams come from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:42 PM
>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed
>>>>>>>               
> up
>   
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users.  Not
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter of seconds on your
>>>>>>> computer, but you can also do this right on your Xbox 360, bringing
>>>>>>>               
> it
>   
>>>>>>> mainstream for many who have never used it.  Not to mention the
>>>>>>>               
> super
>   
>>>>>>> low cost of basically $9 bucks a month!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been using it for a few weeks and since it came out on the
>>>>>>>               
> XBox
>   
>>>>>>> 360 last Wednesday, I have streamed GIGs.  Soon as you hear, gigs,
>>>>>>>               
> you
>   
>>>>>>> may be interested to know what is required to maintain a high-end
>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>> stream.  So, I put together some numbers for everyone, in case you
>>>>>>>               
> are
>   
>>>>>>> interested in how much bandwidth this service uses!   A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can see my data at http://www.linktechs.net/netflix.asp.   Feel
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> to shoot me a e-mail off-list if you have any questions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
>>>>>>> 314-735-0270
>>>>>>> http://www.linktechs.net
>>>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>>>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>/*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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