RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Thanks for all of the feedback. For clarification, the LMR400 cable was 140 feet and was the only cable that connected the analyzer to the antenna. I am familiar with the IDU and ODU configuration of the Redline equipment. This test was to see what 5.8 RF was present. The

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread JohnnyO
I think what you thought was RG6 was actually RG59 - Redline is a pretty clean platform so I don't think too many issues will arise from the deployment of that platform in your area. JohnnyO On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 07:31 -0600, Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Thanks for all of the feedback.

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
AUGH! This whole thread.. Some have touched on pieces of it but how about this summary.. The Redline is a two piece radio. It does not send 5 Ghz up the cable. It sends an IF frequency which is lower and more forgiving as well as power to operate the outdoor unit. The

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Dustin Jurman
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) AUGH! This whole thread.. Some have touched on pieces of it but how about

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
Dustin Jurman wrote: If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup with peak hold you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of the day. It still speaks, handshakes and more. I don't know about you but I'm not about to leave a spectrum analyzer

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread robert maier
I think you hit the nail on the headBob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AUGH!This whole thread..Some have touched on pieces of it but how about this summary..The Redline is a two piece radio. It does not send 5 Ghz up the cable. It sends an IF frequency which is lower and

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Dustin Jurman
Infrastructure! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) Dustin Jurman wrote: If the spectrum analyzer is left in place

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
topic. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Jurman Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:42 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) Takes no more than a few minutes to perform a peak hold Bob

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) Dustin Jurman wrote: If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup with peak hold you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts. Since we have been hired for part of this project, I believe it is my RESPONSIBILITY to point out any known issues to the customer; and, it is my responsibility to back up my concerns with hard date, not just 'my

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:01 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup with peak hold you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of the day

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I totally agree with Dustin here. Hanging them without looking first is akin to running a stop sign. You'll probably be fine, most of the time. But.. It doesn't take long to look. Bob's right, things can and almost always do get missed.

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) Cliff Leboeuf wrote: Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts. Since we have been hired for part of this project, I believe it is my

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread JohnnyO
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 10:17 -0500, Bob Moldashel wrote: Dustin Jurman wrote: If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup with peak hold you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of the day. It still speaks, handshakes and more. I don't know

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
10, 2006 8:44 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) I think what you thought was RG6 was actually RG59 - Redline is a pretty clean platform so I don't think too many issues will arise from the deployment of that platform in your area.JohnnyOOn Fri, 2006-02-10

[WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis was to be performed with a hand-held spectrum analyzer at the height that the equipment was to be mounted. Our offer was rejected. However, we were asked to provide the climber for the other party's analysis. Their analysis was

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread G.Villarini
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis was to be performed with a hand-held spectrum analyzer at the height that the equipment was to be mounted. Our offer was rejected. However, we were asked

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Gino, It was Redline's 2' panel. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) What redline antenna

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread G.Villarini
] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) Gino, It was Redline's 2' panel. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis was to be performed with a hand-held spectrum analyzer at the height that the equipment was to be mounted. Our offer was rejected. However, we were asked to provide

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread JohnnyO
There was no noise detected b/c there was no signal going into the SPEC-AN ! - This sounds like something you would do Cliff - sure this guy wasn't related to you ? JohnnyO On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:07 -0600, Cliff Leboeuf wrote: We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) There was no noise detected b/c there was no signal going into the SPEC-AN ! - This sounds like something you would do Cliff - sure this guy wasn't related to you ? JohnnyO On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:07 -0600, Cliff Leboeuf wrote

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
With 140 ft of LMR-400 at 5.8GHz, the loss is about 15db.  With a good antenna topside, you might get some usable results, but not good ones For the RG6, I can't find any loss specs for freq. above 900MHz.  At 900MHz, the loss is about 10db for 140 ft.  Extrapolating that to 5.8GHz, I

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Brian Webster
:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis was to be performed with a hand-held spectrum analyzer at the height that the equipment was to be mounted. Our offer was rejected. However, we were asked

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread George
Another thought is maybe it was alvarion gear or some thing similar that uses a frequency converter at the antenna. I think they get fed with a small cable. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis was to be performed

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) With 140 ft of LMR-400