Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
I love my IP3. I also like this --- http://www.valuepointnet.com/products/controllers/index.html -RickG On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Rogelio, From our evaluation and number of years back, The IP3 didn't do anything that we weren't already doing with standard OpenSource packages, or lower cost WISP standard gear like Mikrotik. But you hit the nail on the head on the value IP3 gives... Turn Key System. It enables the buyer to hit the ground running with a working solution, if they didn't really know how to do those type things on their own, or have the time to figure it out. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks Butch Evans wrote: I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than that). I can't image what kind of gear would require that much money. Cool, I've love to see a URL showing the features of your $900 soln. In context, the $3K was a tiny, tiny part of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that they were spending on networking hardware (Mikrotiks, BelAir, etc). Also, they were looking for turnkey, easy-to-maintain solutions on which they would a serious revenue stream would depend. And while I don't know for sure to that IP3 completely provides that, I'm guessing it does to some degree... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
I'll second that. Valuepoint makes some cheap gear that is pretty easy to setup. We have used them in a few hotspot applications. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks I love my IP3. I also like this --- http://www.valuepointnet.com/products/controllers/index.html -RickG On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Rogelio, From our evaluation and number of years back, The IP3 didn't do anything that we weren't already doing with standard OpenSource packages, or lower cost WISP standard gear like Mikrotik. But you hit the nail on the head on the value IP3 gives... Turn Key System. It enables the buyer to hit the ground running with a working solution, if they didn't really know how to do those type things on their own, or have the time to figure it out. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks Butch Evans wrote: I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than that). I can't image what kind of gear would require that much money. Cool, I've love to see a URL showing the features of your $900 soln. In context, the $3K was a tiny, tiny part of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that they were spending on networking hardware (Mikrotiks, BelAir, etc). Also, they were looking for turnkey, easy-to-maintain solutions on which they would a serious revenue stream would depend. And while I don't know for sure to that IP3 completely provides that, I'm guessing it does to some degree... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
Rogelio, From our evaluation and number of years back, The IP3 didn't do anything that we weren't already doing with standard OpenSource packages, or lower cost WISP standard gear like Mikrotik. But you hit the nail on the head on the value IP3 gives... Turn Key System. It enables the buyer to hit the ground running with a working solution, if they didn't really know how to do those type things on their own, or have the time to figure it out. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks Butch Evans wrote: I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than that). I can't image what kind of gear would require that much money. Cool, I've love to see a URL showing the features of your $900 soln. In context, the $3K was a tiny, tiny part of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that they were spending on networking hardware (Mikrotiks, BelAir, etc). Also, they were looking for turnkey, easy-to-maintain solutions on which they would a serious revenue stream would depend. And while I don't know for sure to that IP3 completely provides that, I'm guessing it does to some degree... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
Butch Evans wrote: I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than that). I can't image what kind of gear would require that much money. Cool, I've love to see a URL showing the features of your $900 soln. In context, the $3K was a tiny, tiny part of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that they were spending on networking hardware (Mikrotiks, BelAir, etc). Also, they were looking for turnkey, easy-to-maintain solutions on which they would a serious revenue stream would depend. And while I don't know for sure to that IP3 completely provides that, I'm guessing it does to some degree... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Rogelio wrote: Cool, I've love to see a URL showing the features of your $900 soln. About 50% of it is here: http://www.mikrotik.com/ :-) The other half would depend on specific needs, but a combination of radius and php gets the rest. I don't SELL a solution for that, I stated that's my average COST in a hotel. That includes 4-6 APs plus a hotspot controller. I already have my own radius/php solution that I use. I can put one together for others. Also, they were looking for turnkey, easy-to-maintain solutions on which they would a serious revenue stream would depend. And while I don't know for sure to that IP3 completely provides that, I'm guessing it does to some degree... While I can never guarantee revenue streams, I can provide networking solutions which make this possible. If their location is right, then revenue WILL follow. If not, then..well, you know. ;-) -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
Butch Evans wrote: About 50% of it is here: http://www.mikrotik.com/ :-) I'm working with an ISP in Omaha, NE and was looking at their Mikrotik setup. I'm impressed with what they pack for a low cost. The other half would depend on specific needs, but a combination of radius and php gets the rest. I don't SELL a solution for that, I stated that's my average COST in a hotel. That includes 4-6 APs plus a hotspot controller. I already have my own radius/php solution that I use. I can put one together for others. What type of APs do you use? And how many rooms do they cover? I ask b/c I'm currently looking into the OPEX/CAPEX of various access points. In Orlando, FL the other week, I saw an outdoor BelAir unit with a 6 dbi omni cover 200+ rooms (two 6 story faces, that were like 15 rooms across, plus all sorts of other rooms that we were not intending to cover, but that had coverage from another unit) While I can never guarantee revenue streams, I can provide networking solutions which make this possible. If their location is right, then revenue WILL follow. If not, then..well, you know. ;-) True, but there is a certain mix of solutions that are sensitive to the business needs of that particular vertical. If you go in right the right solution, you're ahead of the game. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
For what it's worth, some integrators I work with recently told me about IP3 http://www.ip3.com/ While I haven't used them, it looks like they have some good features for VBN (visitor based networks). One guy I talked to said that for $3K he got an incredible turnkey solution that did just want he needed. http://www.ip3.com/productsoverview.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP3 for visitor based networks
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Rogelio wrote: While I haven't used them, it looks like they have some good features for VBN (visitor based networks). One guy I talked to said that for $3K he got an incredible turnkey solution that did just want he needed. I can get you exactly the same thing and for MUCH less than $3k. That much money must be a really NICE bit of hardware. I set these things up all the time in hotels for less than $900 TOTAL (I charge them more than that). I can't image what kind of gear would require that much money. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
