Re[2]: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-16 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello KyWiFi,

As someone who has many towers with 900 omni's ( and many years
supporting them), this combo ( SR9 plus mikrotik/starOS/whatever)  eliminates
the desire to ever deploy an omni again. IMHO.

Some of our most rural areas are so polluted in 900mhz, an omni just
doesn't cut it.

Mikrotik now needs GPS polling..

Barry


Friday, October 13, 2006, 11:00:21 AM, you wrote:

KL Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
KL it and I'm sure others do too!

KL Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
KL instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
KL is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
KL PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

KL TGIF.


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KL - Original Message - 
KL From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
KL Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
KL Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


KL Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
KL Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
KL While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
KL What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
KL about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
KL and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
KL always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
KL subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
KL or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
KL luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
KL locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
KL the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
KL way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
KL out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
KL needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
KL so much better.
KL Superior Wireless
KL New Orleans,La.
KL www.superior1.com

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
it and I'm sure others do too!

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

TGIF.


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- Original Message - 
From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread Butch Evans

On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, KyWiFi LLC wrote:

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni 
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range 
that is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye 
on the PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).


With few exceptions, and omni in 900 is going to be too noisy to be 
very useful.  There are probably some regions that this is not true 
for, but I'd guess they will be few and far between.  I have one 
customer that is using the SR-9 cards in a test scenario in east 
Texas (on the outskirts of a large city).  He tried for a month to 
test with a vertical omni...NO luck at all.  He went to a horizontal 
omni without much improvement, though he could at least connect 
beyond the 1000 foot range.  With a horizontal sector, he is getting 
2-3 miles with good speeds.


This band is almost impossible to work in without a spectrum 
analyzer.  There is just too much noise around and it is not impeded 
by trees (at least not as much as the higher frequencies).  At any 
rate, ymmv.


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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread Joe Laura
I did not want to start with an omni because Im sure the noise floor is high
downtown. I figured a sector would be better  for initial  testing. Tonight
I am going to aim the sector downtown and do some more testing as well as 3
miles out and further. If all goes ok with the existing noise floor I will
order a omni tomorrow. Im only 90' at this point but final testing will be
on one of my 300' pops. Ill post all the results as I get them. Joe

Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
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- Original Message - 
From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


 On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, KyWiFi LLC wrote:
 
 Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni 
 instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range 
 that is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye 
 on the PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).
 
 With few exceptions, and omni in 900 is going to be too noisy to be 
 very useful.  There are probably some regions that this is not true 
 for, but I'd guess they will be few and far between.  I have one 
 customer that is using the SR-9 cards in a test scenario in east 
 Texas (on the outskirts of a large city).  He tried for a month to 
 test with a vertical omni...NO luck at all.  He went to a horizontal 
 omni without much improvement, though he could at least connect 
 beyond the 1000 foot range.  With a horizontal sector, he is getting 
 2-3 miles with good speeds.
 
 This band is almost impossible to work in without a spectrum 
 analyzer.  There is just too much noise around and it is not impeded 
 by trees (at least not as much as the higher frequencies).  At any 
 rate, ymmv.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Was the test with 5, 10 or 20mhz channels? What was your noise floor at 
each test site? How was the mobile end
mounted? What is the beamwidth on those antennas (or model numbers to 
look them up) and what elevation were

each at? Any tilt on the antennas?

Jeromie

Joe Laura wrote:


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

 



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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
directions very nicely.

I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
it was stable and usable.

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
it and I'm sure others do too!

Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

TGIF.


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- Original Message -
From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
so much better.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.

I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?


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- Original Message - 
From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
directions very nicely.

I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
it was stable and usable.

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
 it and I'm sure others do too!

 Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
 instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
 is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
 PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

 TGIF.


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 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


 Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
 Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
 While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
 What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
 about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
 and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
 always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
 subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
 or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
 luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
 locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
 the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
 way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
 out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
 needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
 so much better.
 Superior Wireless
 New Orleans,La.
 www.superior1.com

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

Yes that is with WAR boards and StarV3, but the point was more the
range that can be attained and the antenna used (which is why I did
not even mention StarOS).

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.

I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?


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- Original Message -
From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
directions very nicely.

I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
it was stable and usable.

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
 it and I'm sure others do too!

 Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
 instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
 is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
 PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).

 TGIF.


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 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


 Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
 Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
 While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
 What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
 about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
 and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
 always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
 subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
 or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
 luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
 locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
 the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
 way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
 out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-10-13 Thread KyWiFi LLC
It's okay to mention StarOS Lonnie, the more details
the better IMO.


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- Original Message - 
From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


Yes that is with WAR boards and StarV3, but the point was more the
range that can be attained and the antenna used (which is why I did
not even mention StarOS).

Lonnie

On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is quite remarkable Lonnie, thank you for sharing.

 I assume you are using StarOS on WAR boards for the
 5.8GHz and 900MHz links referenced below?


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 - Original Message -
 From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results


 We are using the PacWireless 11 dB yagis for our AP.  We are fortunate
 in that we have a narrow valley so that two 11 dB yagis cover both
 directions very nicely.

 I set up and AP 42 km from my first install.  It is linked at 5.8 GHz
 with 3 foot dishes and CM9 radios.  I get -70 dB signals and it is
 solid.  For a hoot I turned the 900 AP into a client and did a site
 survey and it saw and was able to link to the 900 AP 42 km away.  The
 signal was a -76 dB and it was very usable and no packet loss.  This
 is with near perfect LOS.  The other direction had a very large group
 of trees to go through BUT I still saw a -84 dB signal from 20 km and
 it was stable and usable.

 Lonnie

 On 10/13/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate
  it and I'm sure others do too!
 
  Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni
  instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that
  is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the
  PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj).
 
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  - Original Message -
  From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
 
 
  Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a.
  Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client.
  While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it.
  What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From
  about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up
  and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up
  always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a
  subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell
  or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any
  luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two
  locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to
  the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the
  way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak
  out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I
  needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do
  so much better.
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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-18 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Who sells that Teletronics antenna, link, cost

Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote:


Larry Yunker wrote:

Let us know more about the configuration(s) and maybe we can figure 
out what else you should try.


OK here's the Sector antenna:

http://www.teletronics.com/tant900sector12-5dbi.html

The yagi's are PacWireless YA9-13

Interesting that at the customer with the yagi in the attic, the 
CPE-tower signal was weaker than the tower-CPE signal. Both running 
the Ubiquiti 900 cards on a  RB112 and the sector antenna is 12.5 db 
gain so you would think the signals at each end should be pretty close.


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[WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5838

I just posted our early rsults of the 900 MHz gear.  Needless to say
this is better than I was hoping for and this stuff has a FIRM place
in our tool chest.  Forget higher power on 2.4 GHz to get through some
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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE




Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5838
  
  
I just posted our early rsults of the 900 MHz gear. Needless to say
  
this is better than I was hoping for and this stuff has a FIRM place
  
in our tool chest. Forget higher power on 2.4 GHz to get through some
  
trees. This is truly NON LOS.
  
  

Hi Lonnie...what polarization did you use?

Thanks leon

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Vertical and horizontal were tried. The results are the same.LonnieOn 9/17/06, Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE 
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Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5838
  
  
I just posted our early rsults of the 900 MHz gear. Needless to say
  
this is better than I was hoping for and this stuff has a FIRM place
  
in our tool chest. Forget higher power on 2.4 GHz to get through some
  
trees. This is truly NON LOS.
  
  

Hi Lonnie...what polarization did you use?

Thanks leon

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE

Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

Vertical and horizontal were tried.  The results are the same.
Thanks Lonnie...we're trying some Mikrotik with the 900 cards and not 
having much luck through the trees using a 900 120* sector H-pol


Leon


Lonnie

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Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5838

I just posted our early rsults of the 900 MHz gear.  Needless to say
this is better than I was hoping for and this stuff has a FIRM place
in our tool chest.  Forget higher power on 2.4 GHz to get through
some
trees.  This is truly NON LOS.


Hi Lonnie...what polarization did you use?

Thanks leon

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Larry Yunker
What antenna/cable solution are you using on the client side of the link? 
How far are you trying to shoot?


- Larry

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Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

Vertical and horizontal were tried.  The results are the same.

Thanks Lonnie...we're trying some Mikrotik with the 900 cards and not
having much luck through the trees using a 900 120* sector H-pol

Leon


Lonnie

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Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5838

I just posted our early rsults of the 900 MHz gear.  Needless to say
this is better than I was hoping for and this stuff has a FIRM place
in our tool chest.  Forget higher power on 2.4 GHz to get through
some
trees.  This is truly NON LOS.


Hi Lonnie...what polarization did you use?

Thanks leon

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE

Larry Yunker wrote:
What antenna/cable solution are you using on the client side of the 
link? How far are you trying to shoot?
Down in Virginia we're using a 13db (11 ele) Yagi horizontal shooting to 
a tower where there is a 120* hor sector antenna. Antenna pigtail 
connects through a double-barrel right into the radio. Any ideas? I am 
stumped as this should work; in one case the yagi is in the attic and 
the signal is horrible. We're trying to shoot from 1-6 miles or so. We 
did get a -65 way on the other side up in the clear when we were driving 
around on Thurs.


Thanks leon
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Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

Vertical and horizontal were tried.  The results are the same.

Thanks Lonnie...we're trying some Mikrotik with the 900 cards and not
having much luck through the trees using a 900 120* sector H-pol

Leon


Lonnie

On 9/17/06, *Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

http://forums.star-os.com/showthread.php?t=5838

I just posted our early rsults of the 900 MHz gear.  Needless 
to say
this is better than I was hoping for and this stuff has a FIRM 
place

in our tool chest.  Forget higher power on 2.4 GHz to get through
some
trees.  This is truly NON LOS.


Hi Lonnie...what polarization did you use?

Thanks leon

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE

Larry Yunker wrote:
Let us know more about the configuration(s) and maybe we can figure 
out what else you should try.

OK here's the Sector antenna:

http://www.teletronics.com/tant900sector12-5dbi.html

The yagi's are PacWireless YA9-13

Interesting that at the customer with the yagi in the attic, the 
CPE-tower signal was weaker than the tower-CPE signal. Both running the 
Ubiquiti 900 cards on a  RB112 and the sector antenna is 12.5 db gain so 
you would think the signals at each end should be pretty close.


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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Larry Yunker

How much difference are you seeing?  2db or more?

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Larry Yunker wrote:

Let us know more about the configuration(s) and maybe we can figure
out what else you should try.

OK here's the Sector antenna:

http://www.teletronics.com/tant900sector12-5dbi.html

The yagi's are PacWireless YA9-13

Interesting that at the customer with the yagi in the attic, the
CPE-tower signal was weaker than the tower-CPE signal. Both running the
Ubiquiti 900 cards on a  RB112 and the sector antenna is 12.5 db gain so
you would think the signals at each end should be pretty close.

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE

Larry Yunker wrote:

How much difference are you seeing?  2db or more?

yeah maybe 6-10 I think


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Larry Yunker wrote:

Let us know more about the configuration(s) and maybe we can figure
out what else you should try.

OK here's the Sector antenna:

http://www.teletronics.com/tant900sector12-5dbi.html

The yagi's are PacWireless YA9-13

Interesting that at the customer with the yagi in the attic, the
CPE-tower signal was weaker than the tower-CPE signal. Both running the
Ubiquiti 900 cards on a  RB112 and the sector antenna is 12.5 db gain so
you would think the signals at each end should be pretty close.

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Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results

2006-09-17 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE

Larry Yunker wrote:
Sounds like multipath you are probably picking up a bounced signal 
on one end.
could be  I think we saw this somewhere else but I can't remember; 
we did so much on Thursday it sometimes is a blur :-(
I think the plan is to try a yagi up on the tower in place of the sector 
for a test and check the signal at the one 900 CPE in the attic 
remotely. (We've only got one 900 CPE currently.)


Any other ideas?

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