RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2
Or with StarOS you need to run a VDS tunnel over your wireless link then bridge the Ethernet to the VDS interface. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: 29 September 2005 03:31 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2 You CAN bridge wireless cards and ethernet... Need to use EOIP tunnels however. Contact Butch Evans... http://www.butchevans.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2 Also We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station mode, and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly states that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi. I find it hard to believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged CPE, without routing. I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as bridges with no problem. Am I missing something? Am I correct that Mikrotiks can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port? For various reasons I do NOT want to route. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for an 8am install. 1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards. However, it will not shut down, and their for prevents soft reboot. This is a known issue with WRAP boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or something like that. But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this? 2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio. WDS should make it jsut look like a big switch. Does anyone know something about WDS that I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended purpose? 3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not need VLAN support. I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption. Using WEP worked fine. USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine. Is there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible. I'm wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 301-515-7774 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 27/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: 28/09/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions
I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for an 8am install. 1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards. However, it will not shut down, and their for prevents soft reboot. This is a known issue with WRAP boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or something like that. But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this? 2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio. WDS should make it jsut look like a big switch. Does anyone know something about WDS that I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended purpose? 3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not need VLAN support. I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption. Using WEP worked fine. USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine. Is there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible. I'm wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 301-515-7774 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2
Also We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station mode, and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly states that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi. I find it hard to believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged CPE, without routing. I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as bridges with no problem. Am I missing something? Am I correct that Mikrotiks can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port? For various reasons I do NOT want to route. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for an 8am install. 1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards. However, it will not shut down, and their for prevents soft reboot. This is a known issue with WRAP boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or something like that. But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this? 2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio. WDS should make it jsut look like a big switch. Does anyone know something about WDS that I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended purpose? 3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not need VLAN support. I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption. Using WEP worked fine. USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine. Is there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible. I'm wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 301-515-7774 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2
You CAN bridge wireless cards and ethernet... Need to use EOIP tunnels however. Contact Butch Evans... http://www.butchevans.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2 Also We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station mode, and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly states that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi. I find it hard to believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged CPE, without routing. I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as bridges with no problem. Am I missing something? Am I correct that Mikrotiks can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port? For various reasons I do NOT want to route. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for an 8am install. 1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards. However, it will not shut down, and their for prevents soft reboot. This is a known issue with WRAP boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or something like that. But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this? 2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio. WDS should make it jsut look like a big switch. Does anyone know something about WDS that I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended purpose? 3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not need VLAN support. I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption. Using WEP worked fine. USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine. Is there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible. I'm wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 301-515-7774 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/