RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2

2005-09-29 Thread Paul Hendry
Or with StarOS you need to run a VDS tunnel over your wireless link then
bridge the Ethernet to the VDS interface.

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You CAN bridge wireless cards and ethernet... Need to use EOIP tunnels
however.

Contact Butch Evans... http://www.butchevans.com

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Also

We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station
mode, and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly
states that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi.  I find
it hard to believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged CPE, without
routing.

I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as
bridges with no problem.  Am I missing something? Am I correct that
Mikrotiks can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port?  For
various reasons I do NOT want to route.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions


 I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for 
 an 8am install.

 1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards.  However, it will not shut down, 
 and their for prevents soft reboot.  This is a known issue with WRAP 
 boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or 
 something like that.  But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a 
 closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or 
 different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this?

 2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we

 can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of 
 deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform 
 its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. 
 Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building 
 within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, 
 where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio.  WDS should make 
 it jsut look like a big switch.  Does anyone know something about WDS that

 I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended 
 purpose?

 3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have 
 Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not 
 need VLAN support.  I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to 
 communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption.

 Using WEP worked fine.  USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine.  Is 
 there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both 
 using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible.  I'm 
 wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station 
 Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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[WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for an 
8am install.


1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards.  However, it will not shut down, and 
their for prevents soft reboot.  This is a known issue with WRAP boards 
listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or something 
like that.  But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a closed OS. 
Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or different version of 
Mikrotik image to deal with this?


2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we 
can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of 
deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform its 
common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. Basically 
we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building within the 
complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, where the 
Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio.  WDS should make it jsut look 
like a big switch.  Does anyone know something about WDS that I don't, that 
would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended purpose?


3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have 
Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not 
need VLAN support.  I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to communicate 
with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption.  Using WEP 
worked fine.  USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine.  Is there anything 
I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both using WPA? Has 
anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible.  I'm wondering if its 
a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station Server connecting 
to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
301-515-7774 


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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi

Also

We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station 
mode, and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly 
states that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi.  I find 
it hard to believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged CPE, without 
routing.


I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as 
bridges with no problem.  Am I missing something? Am I correct that 
Mikrotiks can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port?  For 
various reasons I do NOT want to route.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions


I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for 
an 8am install.


1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards.  However, it will not shut down, 
and their for prevents soft reboot.  This is a known issue with WRAP 
boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or 
something like that.  But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a 
closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or 
different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this?


2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we 
can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of 
deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform 
its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. 
Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building 
within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, 
where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio.  WDS should make 
it jsut look like a big switch.  Does anyone know something about WDS that 
I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended 
purpose?


3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have 
Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not 
need VLAN support.  I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to 
communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption. 
Using WEP worked fine.  USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine.  Is 
there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both 
using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible.  I'm 
wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station 
Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA.


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RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
301-515-7774
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RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2

2005-09-28 Thread Rick Smith

You CAN bridge wireless cards and ethernet... Need to use EOIP tunnels however.

Contact Butch Evans... http://www.butchevans.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2

Also

We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station mode, 
and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly states 
that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi.  I find it hard to 
believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged CPE, without routing.

I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as 
bridges with no problem.  Am I missing something? Am I correct that Mikrotiks 
can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port?  For various reasons 
I do NOT want to route.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:46 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions


 I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for 
 an 8am install.

 1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards.  However, it will not shut down, 
 and their for prevents soft reboot.  This is a known issue with WRAP 
 boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or 
 something like that.  But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a 
 closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or 
 different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this?

 2 Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we 
 can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of 
 deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform 
 its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. 
 Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building 
 within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, 
 where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio.  WDS should make 
 it jsut look like a big switch.  Does anyone know something about WDS that 
 I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended 
 purpose?

 3 Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have 
 Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not 
 need VLAN support.  I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to 
 communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption. 
 Using WEP worked fine.  USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine.  Is 
 there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both 
 using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible.  I'm 
 wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station 
 Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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 301-515-7774
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