Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-17 Thread David E. Smith
Rick Smith wrote:
 If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
 and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
 common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
 that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
 to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
 or hotspot problems in hotels...

While I like the answers submitted thus far, I'm going to dare to make a
semi-serious contribution or two.

Assuming it's a typical hotspot environment, you'll probably have a lot
of questions about email. If someone pops open Outlook or Thunderbird or
whatever, they'll probably be able to read their email, but they likely
won't be able to send email out. Your script will need to explain why
the hotel won't let their guests talk to any random SMTP server on the
Internet. (And you may want an optional paragraph for folks whose
companies are semi-clueful and have SMTP AUTH or something like that set
up.)

Bonus points if you have an SMTP proxy of some sort, and if it can
somehow handle the aforementioned SMTP AUTH (I'm not sure if that'd even
be possible, but what the heck).

A related stanza for people using MS Exchange may be useful too - at
least some versions of Exchange use NetBIOS ports for talking to their
server, which are exactly the same ports used by 9 out of 10 leading
Windows viruses, and thus are probably blocked, wholesale, on your network.

Then all the standard stuff about flip the little switch on the side of
your notebook to turn on the wireless card and try rebooting, that
fixes everything about half the time.

David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-16 Thread Rick Smith
If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
or hotspot problems in hotels...

R


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Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-16 Thread Mark Nash
Do you have a router?  If yes, then reboot the [EMAIL PROTECTED] router!!!  AND 
DON'T
CALL US AGAIN EVER UNTIL YOU DO!!!

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

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Subject: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?


 If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
 and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
 common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
 that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
 to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
 or hotspot problems in hotels...

 R


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RE: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
We use almost all Smartbridge AP's but recently added one of their newer units, 
it just likes to stop associating or passing traffic randomely so that bridge 
is our nightmare.  My sysadmin doesn't like Microtic stuff but he' leaves at 
the week for another job so you can bet I will be buying some because he never 
gave me any good alternatives.  Of course for our new techs we love to call 
them with I can't get my PPP up just to see if they are listening.

In reality the most questions we get are why is your Internet so slow and 
they yell at us because they have viruses and adware even though our startup 
disk includes adware and and AVG.  I swear we have been blamed for divorces and 
the porn they go to see.  It's always our fault.  It makes me wonder if Cable 
gets questions like you let my kid see evil shows too. 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

Do you have a router?  If yes, then reboot the [EMAIL PROTECTED] router!!!  AND 
DON'T
CALL US AGAIN EVER UNTIL YOU DO!!!

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

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From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:50 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?


 If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
 and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
 common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
 that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
 to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
 or hotspot problems in hotels...

 R


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Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-16 Thread Mike Ireton

#1) IS THE INTERNET DOWN?

A) No, but it sounds like you're having trouble...

#2) IS THE INTERNET DOWN? (I just reinstalled my computer but that 
couldnt't be the problem...)


A) No, but it sounds like your computer isn't set up correctly...

#3) IS THE INTERNET DOWN? (The roofers just left, but I don't know what 
that would have to do with it, the screen says you're down and I want 
service credits now!)


	A) Hmm, it looks like your equipment has been destroyed and no longer 
registers with the service.






Rick Smith wrote:

If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
or hotspot problems in hotels...

R




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Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-16 Thread George Rogato
Sheesh, I hate to bad mouth smart bridges, but I went that way once, was 
sort of like being blinded while walking in your bare feet and stepping 
into a pit of hot coals. Kinda still haunts me.


I'm not that technically savy, but I have no problem using ssh'ing ito a 
star-os ap and configuring it. And they work.


George



Forbes Mercy wrote:

We use almost all Smartbridge AP's but recently added one of their newer units, it just 
likes to stop associating or passing traffic randomely so that bridge is our nightmare.  
My sysadmin doesn't like Microtic stuff but he' leaves at the week for another job so you 
can bet I will be buying some because he never gave me any good alternatives.  Of course 
for our new techs we love to call them with I can't get my PPP up just to see 
if they are listening.

In reality the most questions we get are why is your Internet so slow and they yell at us because they have viruses and adware even though our startup disk includes adware and and AVG.  I swear we have been blamed for divorces and the porn they go to see.  It's always our fault.  It makes me wonder if Cable gets questions like you let my kid see evil shows too. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:47 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

Do you have a router?  If yes, then reboot the [EMAIL PROTECTED] router!!!  AND 
DON'T
CALL US AGAIN EVER UNTIL YOU DO!!!

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:50 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?



If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
or hotspot problems in hotels...

R


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Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-16 Thread George Rogato
Kinda got of the subject there, but I've spent a lot this past year 
retooling my network, and support has dropped to a very low level.


Guess the first thing I woul ask, is if they have rebooted everything, 
their poe adapter, their router, the pc's. in that order.


One major question I learned to ask real fast, like very first, was how 
many computers and laptops do they have and which one doesn't work.
If they say all, it's one direction and if they say, just my mac, etc, 
it's end of the story.




George Rogato wrote:
Sheesh, I hate to bad mouth smart bridges, but I went that way once, was 
sort of like being blinded while walking in your bare feet and stepping 
into a pit of hot coals. Kinda still haunts me.


I'm not that technically savy, but I have no problem using ssh'ing ito a 
star-os ap and configuring it. And they work.


George



Forbes Mercy wrote:
We use almost all Smartbridge AP's but recently added one of their 
newer units, it just likes to stop associating or passing traffic 
randomely so that bridge is our nightmare.  My sysadmin doesn't like 
Microtic stuff but he' leaves at the week for another job so you can 
bet I will be buying some because he never gave me any good 
alternatives.  Of course for our new techs we love to call them with 
I can't get my PPP up just to see if they are listening.


In reality the most questions we get are why is your Internet so 
slow and they yell at us because they have viruses and adware even 
though our startup disk includes adware and and AVG.  I swear we have 
been blamed for divorces and the porn they go to see.  It's always our 
fault.  It makes me wonder if Cable gets questions like you let my 
kid see evil shows too.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Mark Nash

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:47 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

Do you have a router?  If yes, then reboot the [EMAIL PROTECTED] router!!!  AND 
DON'T
CALL US AGAIN EVER UNTIL YOU DO!!!

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:50 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?



If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
or hotspot problems in hotels...

R


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Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?

2007-01-16 Thread Tom DeReggi

HA HA HA.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most Common Questions for Tech Support Line ?



#1) IS THE INTERNET DOWN?

A) No, but it sounds like you're having trouble...

#2) IS THE INTERNET DOWN? (I just reinstalled my computer but that 
couldnt't be the problem...)


A) No, but it sounds like your computer isn't set up correctly...

#3) IS THE INTERNET DOWN? (The roofers just left, but I don't know what 
that would have to do with it, the screen says you're down and I want 
service credits now!)


A) Hmm, it looks like your equipment has been destroyed and no longer 
registers with the service.






Rick Smith wrote:

If I were to build a script for my tech support phone answering,
and share it with you all as an FAQ, what do you think the most
common questions are, and how are they answered.  Keep in mind,
that I'm attempting to write a script, so to speak, for an operator
to pick up the phone and cluefully help someone through wireless
or hotspot problems in hotels...

R




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