[WISPA] NO new customers for VONAGE

2007-04-06 Thread George Rogato

Yipes!  this is going to really hurt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_hi_te/vonage_verizon_suit

I wonder what this means for the rest of the voip industry...
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Re: [WISPA] NO new customers for VONAGE

2007-04-06 Thread Jack Unger

I think the message for the rest of the VoIP industry is:

 You're next 



George Rogato wrote:

Yipes!  this is going to really hurt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_hi_te/vonage_verizon_suit

I wonder what this means for the rest of the voip industry...


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Re: [WISPA] NO new customers for VONAGE

2007-04-06 Thread Rich Comroe
I think the message for the rest of the VoIP industry is:
 You're next 

Maybe true, but I have a different opinion.

The ruling included an explicit list of the algorithms that infringed on 
Verizon (shout out thanks go to Peter for these).  It's clear that you can 
build VoIP service without infringement ... but Vonage didn't ... not because 
it had to intentionally use the Verizon algorithms, but because it didn't know 
any better (because they didn't know enough to check for IPR).  Vonage will be 
infringement free as soon as they re-engineer their service (and open for new 
business) ... and you know they'll be re-engineering at full-steam.  Depending 
on how quickly they got started (presumably they've already been working 
full-steam since the initial infringement lawsuit was filed) it could be up and 
running within months (or less).

Small fish will never be gone after by Verizon, and hopefully the open-source 
project VoIP solutions are IPR infringement free (or will soon be ... having 
been awakened to the implications of IPR by this ruling).

I think the real message for the rest of the VoIP industry is that the big 
players (both manufacturers and operators) religiously protect their IPR, and 
if you want to compete (meaning: grow large) you better pay attention.  
Vonage's crime was complete total ignorance of the law of IPR (which we all 
know is always a very poor legal defense for breaking the law).

Rich

p.s.  On re-reading before hitting SEND I note that I use the IPR acronym 
without definition ... hopefully the readers here know that IPR means 
Intellectual Property Rights (meaning patents  copyrights).
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  I think the message for the rest of the VoIP industry is:

   You're next 



  George Rogato wrote:
   Yipes!  this is going to really hurt.
   
   http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_hi_te/vonage_verizon_suit
   
   I wonder what this means for the rest of the voip industry...

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