RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation
So does anyone use any packet aggregation software to help keep a good throughput across there wireless network? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: 14 November 2005 23:06 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless backhaul. The problem is that M3P adds about 15ms of delay in each direction so you are adding 30ms of delay to most none UDP streams. This is the amount of time that M3P waits to fill the 1500 byte. Does anyone know of an alternative system or open source software that does packet aggregation but is a little more configurable? Ideally I would like to be able to change the amount of time that the aggregator waits to fill it's payload and therefore reduce the overall delay. Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.6/179 - Release Date: 23/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation
Hillarious. But what really defines who/what a company is? If company A buys company B, fires everyone from company A, employs everyone from company B, is company A really still company A? I always looked at YDI, as Michael Young, who cashed out. Or is the product line a better definition of what company it is. Names can be swapped around anytime. If I buy Microsofts name, and am a two person company, would I still be considered Microsoft? Its all very confusing. Maybe its a 2 out of 3 kind of thing. If the product and CEO comes, well thats it then. Or is it really the FUND/credit line that defines what the company is or isn't? Sure you can argue that the real definition of a company is the stock holders, but what does that have to do with a name? The front page of Proxim's website has a good news story explaining the evolution of the aquisitions. But clearly a case of an identity crisis. They are smart though, rather than keeping their own name as an ego trip, they have always taken the name of the most prominent company from a marketing perspective in the aquisitions. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation Sure Paul, its called Karlnet, no wait YDI, no wait, Terabeam, no wait, Proxim, yeah that what it is this week, Turbocell on 802.11a Atheros. You can find the information on the www.karlnet.com, nope that's gone now, www.ydi.com, nope that's gone now, www.terabeam.com, oops that just got forwarded to www.proxim.com website. Your only task now is to find someone to sell it to you, then your next task is to find someone that will support it for you. Whew, that was a lot of work! Good Luck Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation I've posted a couple of times on the forum but no responses. Is there an alternative out there? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 14 November 2005 23:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation In my experience, the guys at MikroTik are quite responsive to user requests. Have you asked them about this? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless, ISP 269-686-8648 Paul Hendry wrote: Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless backhaul. The problem is that M3P adds about 15ms of delay in each direction so you are adding 30ms of delay to most none UDP streams. This is the amount of time that M3P waits to fill the 1500 byte. Does anyone know of an alternative system or open source software that does packet aggregation but is a little more configurable? Ideally I would like to be able to change the amount of time that the aggregator waits to fill it's payload and therefore reduce the overall delay. Cheers, P. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Packet Aggregation
Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless backhaul. The problem is that M3P adds about 15ms of delay in each direction so you are adding 30ms of delay to most none UDP streams. This is the amount of time that M3P waits to fill the 1500 byte. Does anyone know of an alternative system or open source software that does packet aggregation but is a little more configurable? Ideally I would like to be able to change the amount of time that the aggregator waits to fill it's payload and therefore reduce the overall delay. Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation
In my experience, the guys at MikroTik are quite responsive to user requests. Have you asked them about this? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless, ISP 269-686-8648 Paul Hendry wrote: Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless backhaul. The problem is that M3P adds about 15ms of delay in each direction so you are adding 30ms of delay to most none UDP streams. This is the amount of time that M3P waits to fill the 1500 byte. Does anyone know of an alternative system or open source software that does packet aggregation but is a little more configurable? Ideally I would like to be able to change the amount of time that the aggregator waits to fill it's payload and therefore reduce the overall delay. Cheers, P. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation
I've posted a couple of times on the forum but no responses. Is there an alternative out there? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 14 November 2005 23:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation In my experience, the guys at MikroTik are quite responsive to user requests. Have you asked them about this? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless, ISP 269-686-8648 Paul Hendry wrote: Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless backhaul. The problem is that M3P adds about 15ms of delay in each direction so you are adding 30ms of delay to most none UDP streams. This is the amount of time that M3P waits to fill the 1500 byte. Does anyone know of an alternative system or open source software that does packet aggregation but is a little more configurable? Ideally I would like to be able to change the amount of time that the aggregator waits to fill it's payload and therefore reduce the overall delay. Cheers, P. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation
Sure Paul, its called Karlnet, no wait YDI, no wait, Terabeam, no wait, Proxim, yeah that what it is this week, Turbocell on 802.11a Atheros. You can find the information on the www.karlnet.com, nope that's gone now, www.ydi.com, nope that's gone now, www.terabeam.com, oops that just got forwarded to www.proxim.com website. Your only task now is to find someone to sell it to you, then your next task is to find someone that will support it for you. Whew, that was a lot of work! Good Luck Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation I've posted a couple of times on the forum but no responses. Is there an alternative out there? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 14 November 2005 23:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation In my experience, the guys at MikroTik are quite responsive to user requests. Have you asked them about this? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless, ISP 269-686-8648 Paul Hendry wrote: Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless backhaul. The problem is that M3P adds about 15ms of delay in each direction so you are adding 30ms of delay to most none UDP streams. This is the amount of time that M3P waits to fill the 1500 byte. Does anyone know of an alternative system or open source software that does packet aggregation but is a little more configurable? Ideally I would like to be able to change the amount of time that the aggregator waits to fill it's payload and therefore reduce the overall delay. Cheers, P. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation
I know that Packeteer does it but it's a bit on the expensive side. I'm surprised there isn't a FreeBSD or Linux package out there that does it :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: 15 November 2005 02:25 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation Sure Paul, its called Karlnet, no wait YDI, no wait, Terabeam, no wait, Proxim, yeah that what it is this week, Turbocell on 802.11a Atheros. You can find the information on the www.karlnet.com, nope that's gone now, www.ydi.com, nope that's gone now, www.terabeam.com, oops that just got forwarded to www.proxim.com website. Your only task now is to find someone to sell it to you, then your next task is to find someone that will support it for you. Whew, that was a lot of work! Good Luck Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation I've posted a couple of times on the forum but no responses. Is there an alternative out there? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 14 November 2005 23:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation In my experience, the guys at MikroTik are quite responsive to user requests. Have you asked them about this? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless, ISP 269-686-8648 Paul Hendry wrote: Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless backhaul. The problem is that M3P adds about 15ms of delay in each direction so you are adding 30ms of delay to most none UDP streams. This is the amount of time that M3P waits to fill the 1500 byte. Does anyone know of an alternative system or open source software that does packet aggregation but is a little more configurable? Ideally I would like to be able to change the amount of time that the aggregator waits to fill it's payload and therefore reduce the overall delay. Cheers, P. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
