Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners

2006-01-13 Thread Peter R.
CP has stopped selling Residential. Period. (That is what I was told). Regards, Peter Charles Wu wrote: Not to kick a dead horse here, but I heard the other day (from a WISP friend of mine) that Commpartners has stop installing WISP residential connections (due to E911 compliance issues) for

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners

2006-01-12 Thread Charles Wu
Not to kick a dead horse here, but I heard the other day (from a WISP friend of mine) that Commpartners has stop installing WISP residential connections (due to E911 compliance issues) for the time being This sucks for him since he's already paid the $5k setup fee and his 1500+ wireless customers

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- bigdumbpipe providervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider(html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
goals for WISPA. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- bigdumbpipe

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipeprovidervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipeprovidervs.end

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipeprovidervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipeprovidervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (html formatted

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumbpipeprovidervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (htmlformatted for easier reading)

2006-01-05 Thread Charles Wu
Again, they should be held accountable for what they have built with PUBLIC MONEY. IMO, it's nearly impossible to do a 1/2 and 1/2 type of model I doubt there is any service provider out there who HAS NOT benefited in some manner from PUBLIC MONEY at some time (or who would want to close the door

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2006-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
xed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- "big dumb pipeprovider"vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider (htmlformatted

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe provider vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe provider

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe provider vs. end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu
snip performance to their VOIP servers over our network. Think about it, do you think I'm going to allow the same performance to our competitive VOIP provider as I do to our own VOIP services? By getting us to be a Partner for them, we'd optimize them for our own benefit, and indirectly Comm

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe provider vs. end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote: If you think about it, an argument can be made that preference of one's own traffic (or depreffing competition traffic) is not that much different than These are nowhere NEAR the same thing. Let me give an example. Let's say that my webserver is

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe provider vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe provider vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote: If you think about

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe provider vs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider

2006-01-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Charles Wu wrote: If you take this line reasoning a few iterations further, it can easily become a that @[EMAIL PROTECTED] competitor is riding my network for free to access my customers, so I'm just gonna cut them off type of discussion Let me show you again what I

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe providervs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message snipYou seem to be taking this beyond what anyone has stated. There maybe those that say the things that you claim above, however what yousaid was that "...preference of one's own traffic...is not that muchdifferent than..." and you went on to show a link to a story thatwas

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipe providervs.end-to-end connectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread Mac Dearman
The way I see it is this: (automatic insertion of my .o2 cents) If Bell South can charge people extra for added services I can too. You pay extra for call waiting, call forwarding, call blocking...etc - - - you pay extra on my internet service to have me give your VoIP packets

RE: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumbpipe providervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread Charles Wu
://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumbpipe providervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipeprovidervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread John Scrivner
I am not too concerned. It is only about $40K a month in recurring monthly revenues off the SBC network! :-)I do worry what the phone company will do but I am nearly making as much off of wireless now as I am off the ILEC copper so in a year or so I could snip snip the little copper

Re: [WISPA] VOIP / CommPartners -- big dumb pipeprovidervs.end-to-endconnectivity/content provider (html formatted for easier reading)

2006-01-04 Thread George
John Scrivner wrote: I am not too concerned. It is only about $40K a month in recurring monthly revenues off the SBC network! :-)I do worry what the phone company will do but I am nearly making as much off of wireless now as I am off the ILEC copper so in a year or so I could snip snip