[WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again.

Here's what I'm looking for.

Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget on 
this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap.


I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In other words I 
don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first going through 
the router.  But, I need the ability to plug my laptop into a port that can 
still get to all other ports.


I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip traffic if 
I can.


5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.

They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm that 
comes along.


What would you guys use?  And don't say ebay, I don't know enough about what 
I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the factory for tech 
support.


thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Butch Evans

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the 
budget on this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive 
than cheap.


I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In 
other words I don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 
without first going through the router.  But, I need the ability to 
plug my laptop into a port that can still get to all other ports.


I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip 
traffic if I can.


5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.


Mikrotik has the RB150 (5 ethernet ports) which can be had for 
around $100 with power supply and case.  They will soon release the 
190 (not sure the part number), which will be less than $150 
complete and have 9 ethernet ports.



I want the ability to call the factory for tech support.


Well, umm...maybe Mikrotik is not the answer.  :-)

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RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mac Dearman
Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly word
STATIC) network :-)

I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small
outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in
the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower. We also use the APC
surge protectors in a small rack mount box (holds 4 ethernet surge
protectors)


http://www.provantage.com/linksys-srw208~7LNKW01T.htm   (switch)

http://www.provantage.com/apc-pnetr5~7AMPN04K.htm   (RJ45 surge module)
http://www.provantage.com/apc-prm4~7AMPQ02L.htm (Module box)
 

GL,
Mac




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:29 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again
 
 I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again.
 
 Here's what I'm looking for.
 
 Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget
 on
 this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap.
 
 I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In other
 words I
 don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first going
 through
 the router.  But, I need the ability to plug my laptop into a port that
 can
 still get to all other ports.
 
 I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip
 traffic if
 I can.
 
 5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.
 
 They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm
 that
 comes along.
 
 What would you guys use?  And don't say ebay, I don't know enough about
 what
 I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the factory for
 tech
 support.
 
 thanks,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
 1999!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 



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RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Russ Kreigh


You could use a Mikrotik RB532 with a 564 db, that'll get you to about
20mbps.

Or, you could go the Mikrotik RB192 route, I think they will have 9 ethernet
ports.
The RB 150's have 5 ports.

Then there is this too.
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html


Thanks,

Russ Kreigh
Network Engineer
OnlyInternet.Net Broadband  Wireless
Supernova Technologies
Office: (800) 363-0989
Direct: (260) 827-2486
Fax:(260) 824-9624
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oibw.net 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:04 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly word
STATIC) network :-)

I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small
outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in
the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower. We also use the APC
surge protectors in a small rack mount box (holds 4 ethernet surge
protectors)


http://www.provantage.com/linksys-srw208~7LNKW01T.htm   (switch)

http://www.provantage.com/apc-pnetr5~7AMPN04K.htm   (RJ45 surge module)
http://www.provantage.com/apc-prm4~7AMPQ02L.htm (Module box)
 

GL,
Mac




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:29 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again
 
 I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again.
 
 Here's what I'm looking for.
 
 Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the 
 budget on this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than 
 cheap.
 
 I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In other 
 words I don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first 
 going through the router.  But, I need the ability to plug my laptop 
 into a port that can still get to all other ports.
 
 I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip 
 traffic if I can.
 
 5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.
 
 They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm 
 that comes along.
 
 What would you guys use?  And don't say ebay, I don't know enough 
 about what I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the 
 factory for tech support.
 
 thanks,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
 1999!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 




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Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
RB192.  I have received pricing on it from Electro-Comm, waiting for my 
preferred vendors to step up.



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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again



On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget on 
this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap.


I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In other words 
I don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first going 
through the router.  But, I need the ability to plug my laptop into a port 
that can still get to all other ports.


I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip traffic 
if I can.


5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.


Mikrotik has the RB150 (5 ethernet ports) which can be had for around $100 
with power supply and case.  They will soon release the 190 (not sure the 
part number), which will be less than $150 complete and have 9 ethernet 
ports.



I want the ability to call the factory for tech support.


Well, umm...maybe Mikrotik is not the answer.  :-)

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Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-2879
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Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett

Provantage is a good place to buy from.


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- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again


Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly 
word

STATIC) network :-)

I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small
outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in
the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower. We also use the 
APC

surge protectors in a small rack mount box (holds 4 ethernet surge
protectors)


http://www.provantage.com/linksys-srw208~7LNKW01T.htm   (switch)

http://www.provantage.com/apc-pnetr5~7AMPN04K.htm   (RJ45 surge module)
http://www.provantage.com/apc-prm4~7AMPQ02L.htm (Module box)


GL,
Mac





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again.

Here's what I'm looking for.

Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the budget
on
this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than cheap.

I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In other
words I
don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first going
through
the router.  But, I need the ability to plug my laptop into a port that
can
still get to all other ports.

I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip
traffic if
I can.

5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.

They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm
that
comes along.

What would you guys use?  And don't say ebay, I don't know enough about
what
I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the factory for
tech
support.

thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam





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Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I've heard that Ethernet only the MT boards move an impressive amount of 
data...  don't quote me, but I heard almost 100 megs.  Wireless would be the 
20 - 30 megs you describe.



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- Original Message - 
From: Russ Kreigh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again





You could use a Mikrotik RB532 with a 564 db, that'll get you to about
20mbps.

Or, you could go the Mikrotik RB192 route, I think they will have 9 
ethernet

ports.
The RB 150's have 5 ports.

Then there is this too.
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html


Thanks,

Russ Kreigh
Network Engineer
OnlyInternet.Net Broadband  Wireless
Supernova Technologies
Office: (800) 363-0989
Direct: (260) 827-2486
Fax:(260) 824-9624
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oibw.net


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:04 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly 
word

STATIC) network :-)

I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small
outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in
the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower. We also use the 
APC

surge protectors in a small rack mount box (holds 4 ethernet surge
protectors)


http://www.provantage.com/linksys-srw208~7LNKW01T.htm   (switch)

http://www.provantage.com/apc-pnetr5~7AMPN04K.htm   (RJ45 surge module)
http://www.provantage.com/apc-prm4~7AMPQ02L.htm (Module box)


GL,
Mac





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again.

Here's what I'm looking for.

Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the
budget on this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than
cheap.

I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In other
words I don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first
going through the router.  But, I need the ability to plug my laptop
into a port that can still get to all other ports.

I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip
traffic if I can.

5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.

They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm
that comes along.

What would you guys use?  And don't say ebay, I don't know enough
about what I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the
factory for tech support.

thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam






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RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

2007-08-07 Thread Russ Kreigh

Yeah, I've heard that also. And I've got some good numbers going computer to
computer through a RB532 with the Btest tool.

However, our real world experience has been sadly different.

Thanks,

Russ Kreigh
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

I've heard that Ethernet only the MT boards move an impressive amount of
data...  don't quote me, but I heard almost 100 megs.  Wireless would be the
20 - 30 megs you describe.


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- Original Message -
From: Russ Kreigh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again




 You could use a Mikrotik RB532 with a 564 db, that'll get you to about
 20mbps.

 Or, you could go the Mikrotik RB192 route, I think they will have 9 
 ethernet
 ports.
 The RB 150's have 5 ports.

 Then there is this too.
 http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/reliawave-snmp24b.html


 Thanks,

 Russ Kreigh
 Network Engineer
 OnlyInternet.Net Broadband  Wireless
 Supernova Technologies
 Office: (800) 363-0989
 Direct: (260) 827-2486
 Fax:(260) 824-9624
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.oibw.net


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mac Dearman
 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:04 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

 Dang Marlon - sounds like you need a routed (Dynamic or the real ugly 
 word
 STATIC) network :-)

 I use VLAN tagging and Linksys (SRW208) switches at my towers in small
 outdoor (non vented) enclosures. I haven't lost but 1 due to lightning in
 the last year, but then I lost everything on the tower. We also use the 
 APC
 surge protectors in a small rack mount box (holds 4 ethernet surge
 protectors)


 http://www.provantage.com/linksys-srw208~7LNKW01T.htm   (switch)

 http://www.provantage.com/apc-pnetr5~7AMPN04K.htm   (RJ45 surge module)
 http://www.provantage.com/apc-prm4~7AMPQ02L.htm (Module box)


 GL,
 Mac




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:29 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [WISPA] ethernet switches, again

 I know this has come up from time to time but I need to ask again.

 Here's what I'm looking for.

 Cheapish.  I have 20 plus sites out there so I need to watch the
 budget on this.  I don't want too cheap though, more inexpensive than
 cheap.

 I need the ability to force all traffic to an uplink port.  In other
 words I don't want any traffic from ap 1 to get to ap2 without first
 going through the router.  But, I need the ability to plug my laptop
 into a port that can still get to all other ports.

 I also want to be able to block all broadcast traffic and non ip
 traffic if I can.

 5 port and 8 port versions would do the trick.

 They have to be good quality and not blow with every lightning storm
 that comes along.

 What would you guys use?  And don't say ebay, I don't know enough
 about what I'm doing with them yet, I want the ability to call the
 factory for tech support.

 thanks,
 Marlon
 (509) 982-2181
 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since
 1999!
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
 www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam





 
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