Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-18 Thread Scott Parsons
Those turbine can operate open loop so the controller just disconnects the 
battery from the turbine when the battery is fully charged.
It doesn't hurt the turbine to operate with no load.
Regards,
Scott

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

What does happen when the battery is fully charged if you do not have a dump 
load with the tycon turbines?

Scott Parsons sc...@e-zy.net wrote:

Randy,

You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's 
just an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the 
batteries are fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Profito
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how 
they hold up in extreme weather.
But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too 
big for us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they 
could be a real contender for small home and commercial turbines.  
IMHO, Keep a close eye on this one.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left 
for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need 
an external controller and load dump.

Randy


On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge 
 better in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every 
 year to 18 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.
Each
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a
storm
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just
reverted
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave 
 me a new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of
others
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power
output.





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 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine


 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest 
 wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 
 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better?

 --
 Randy Cosby
 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

 Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A.
 Maxwell




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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks Scott.

If we can't get this one fixed, I'll be placing an order soon.

Randy


On 1/18/2010 9:04 AM, Scott Parsons wrote:
 Those turbine can operate open loop so the controller just disconnects the 
 battery from the turbine when the battery is fully charged.
 It doesn't hurt the turbine to operate with no load.
 Regards,
 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 What does happen when the battery is fully charged if you do not have a dump 
 load with the tycon turbines?

 Scott Parsonssc...@e-zy.net  wrote:


 Randy,

 You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's
 just an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the
 batteries are fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how
 they hold up in extreme weather.
 But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too
 big for us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they
 could be a real contender for small home and commercial turbines.
 IMHO, Keep a close eye on this one.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left
 for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

 Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need
 an external controller and load dump.

 Randy


 On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
  
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge
 better in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every
 year to 18 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.

 Each
  
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a

 storm
  
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just

 reverted
  
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave
 me a new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of

 others
  
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power

 output.
  




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 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine



 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest
 wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or
 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better?

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 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

 Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A.
 Maxwell




  
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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-18 Thread Randy Cosby
Got the AirBreeze unit apart this morning.  As my kids would say... Epic 
Fail!

Pics at:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50531id=1316265262l=23eec98a22



On 1/18/2010 9:11 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
 Thanks Scott.

 If we can't get this one fixed, I'll be placing an order soon.

 Randy


 On 1/18/2010 9:04 AM, Scott Parsons wrote:

 Those turbine can operate open loop so the controller just disconnects the 
 battery from the turbine when the battery is fully charged.
 It doesn't hurt the turbine to operate with no load.
 Regards,
 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 What does happen when the battery is fully charged if you do not have a dump 
 load with the tycon turbines?

 Scott Parsonssc...@e-zy.net   wrote:


  
 Randy,

 You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's
 just an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the
 batteries are fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Chuck Profito
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how
 they hold up in extreme weather.
 But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too
 big for us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they
 could be a real contender for small home and commercial turbines.
 IMHO, Keep a close eye on this one.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left
 for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

 Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need
 an external controller and load dump.

 Randy


 On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:


 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge
 better in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every
 year to 18 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.

  
 Each


 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a

  
 storm


 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just

  
 reverted


 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave
 me a new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of

  
 others


 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power

  
 output.





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 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine



  
 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest
 wind power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or
 6-blade turbines going to handle high wind better?

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 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-15 Thread MDK
I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better 
in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18 
months.

My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.Each 
time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a storm 
came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just reverted 
back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a 
new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of others 
that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look 
them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power output.





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From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

 -- 
 Randy Cosby
 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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 Maxwell



 
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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-15 Thread Randy Cosby
Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left 
for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need 
an external controller and load dump.

Randy


On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better
 in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18
 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.Each
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a storm
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just reverted
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a
 new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of others
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power output.





 --
 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine


 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

 -- 
 Randy Cosby
 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-15 Thread Chuck Profito
Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how they
hold up in extreme weather.  
But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too big for
us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they could be a
real contender for small home and commercial turbines.  IMHO, Keep a close
eye on this one.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left 
for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need 
an external controller and load dump.

Randy


On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better
 in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18
 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.
Each
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a
storm
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just
reverted
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a
 new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of
others
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power
output.





 --
 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine


 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

 -- 
 Randy Cosby
 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-15 Thread Scott Parsons
Randy,

You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's just
an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the batteries are
fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Profito
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how they
hold up in extreme weather.  
But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too big for
us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they could be a
real contender for small home and commercial turbines.  IMHO, Keep a close
eye on this one.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left 
for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need 
an external controller and load dump.

Randy


On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better
 in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18
 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.
Each
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a
storm
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just
reverted
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a
 new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of
others
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power
output.





 --
 From: Randy Cosbydco...@infowest.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:19 PM
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine


 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

 -- 
 Randy Cosby
 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-15 Thread Randy Cosby
What does happen when the battery is fully charged if you do not have a dump 
load with the tycon turbines?

Scott Parsons sc...@e-zy.net wrote:

Randy,

You don't need a dump load with the Tycon Power Systems turbines. It's just
an option. Some folks like to dump any extra power (after the batteries are
fully charged) off to a heater or other load.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Profito
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:33 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Has anybody used Swift 's ?  quiet and small but I have no idea how they
hold up in extreme weather.  
But I think the one that's coming on hard is Flow Design's.  Way too big for
us now, but if they ever get their head out of the clouds, they could be a
real contender for small home and commercial turbines.  IMHO, Keep a close
eye on this one.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

Good feedback.  The air breeze came off the mountain just before I left 
for AF, so I haven't taken it apart yet.  Smelled a bit toasty though.

Anyone tried the Tycon Power systems turbine yet?  Obviously will need 
an external controller and load dump.

Randy


On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, MDK wrote:
 I've used the Air-X and had it survive many storms and winds of 60-80.

 I changed to Air Breeze because SWWP suggested that it would charge better
 in low winds, and the circuit board was not prone to die every year to 18
 months.

 My Air Breeze failed repeatedly - it never lasted more than 45 days.
Each
 time the insides totally melted down, into a toxic mess.   Each time a
storm
 came through it failed - the Air-X is nothing like that.I just
reverted
 back to Air-X, because SWWP got tired of replacing it for me and gave me a
 new Air-X instead of fixing my Breeze.

 What kind of power requirements do you have?I've seen a couple of
others
 that might serve you, as well.I don't' have time at the moment to look
 them up.They're all considerably smaller than the Air-X in power
output.





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 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

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[WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind 
power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade 
turbines going to handle high wind better?

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-14 Thread Mark McElvy
I would say you need one that will furl in high winds.

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Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind 
power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade 
turbines going to handle high wind better?

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Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

435-674-0165 x 2010

http://www.infowest.com/

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Re: [WISPA] wind turbine

2010-01-14 Thread Tom Sharples
The more recent air-x 400s are supposed to be pretty good, unless you use 
them in an area subject to ice buildup. Then, they shake themselves to 
pieces. This info from a client in northern Alberta. Also see this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A35IgpkPshY

Tom S.



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I would say you need one that will furl in high winds.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Randy Cosby
 Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:19 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] wind turbine

 Anyone using wind turbines in high-wind areas?  We had a Southwest wind
 power AirBreeze get shredded - probably 80+mph winds.  Are 5 or 6-blade
 turbines going to handle high wind better?

 -- 
 Randy Cosby
 Vice President
 InfoWest, Inc

 435-674-0165 x 2010

 http://www.infowest.com/

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 Maxwell



 
 
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