Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-20 Thread Chad Halsted

I couldn't post the one I was taught. Your version is much more PC.

On 12/19/06, Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I remember that from school


Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marty Dougherty
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:23 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Easy way to remember the color code is (this is really old days)

Bell- Blue
Operators-Orange
Give-Green
Bad- Brown
Service- Slate

While- White
Running- Red
Backwards- Black
You- Yellow
Vomit- Violet

If you can remember that you can break down any cable- even the big ones
with thousands of pairs...
Marty



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chad Halsted
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

telecom 25 pair color code

tip
White
Red
Black
Yellow
Violet

ring
Blue
Orange
Green
Brown
Slate

so it would look like this...

w/bl - bl, w/o - o, w/g - g, w/br - br, w/sl - sl
r/bl - bl, r/o - o, r/g - g, r/br - br, r/sl -sl
bk/bl - bl, bk/o - o, bk/g -g, bk/br - br, bk/sl - sl
y/bl - bl, ..etc..etc
v/bl - bl, ..etc..etc

It's been a while since I have seen a 25 pair Cat5 cable, don't know
if the slate pair is in there or not, I know it is for 25 pair
telecom feeders, but those are usually Cat3 rated.  If not, then you
simply ignore that pair.

Anyhow, for larger count cables.  Each 25 pair group should be wrapped
with blue, orange, green, brown and slate colored binder string.
The first 25 pair is blue, the next would be orange, then green, brown
and slate accordingly.

and then there are super groups... which is getting way off Topic. hehe

On 12/18/06, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I can confirm Scrivs point. I have a 300' cat5 25 Pr and it is
punched down on a 12 port RJ45 Block, standard Cat5e terminal. It has
worked well, thou I am not using today. No good reason, just wanted to
have fewer connectors.
 Ron Wallace
 Hahnron, Inc.
 220 S. Jackson Dt.
 Addison, MI 49220

 Phone: (517)547-8410
 Mobile: (517)605-4542
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 02:08 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to
terminate
 on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
 the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
 else confirm or deny?
 Scriv
 
 
 Brad Belton wrote:
 
 Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works
well.
 
 I've attached a snapshot.
 
 Best,
 
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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On
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 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:29 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Punch blocks, enclosures? What did you do for that?
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor
cable.
 Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
 
 I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff.
 
 Best,
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
 To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
 Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr
outdoor
 cat5?
 
 I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future
deployments.
 You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
 and would only have run jumpers for new radios.
 
 Brian
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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-20 Thread Mike Delp
Like this?
Bell-Blue
Officicals-Orange
Get-Green
Big-Brown
Salaries-Slate

Why=White
Run-Red
Backwards-Black
You-Yellow
Varmint-Violet


Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chad Halsted
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

I couldn't post the one I was taught. Your version is much more PC.

On 12/19/06, Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I remember that from school


 Mike Bushard, Jr
 Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
 320-256-WISP (9477)
 320-256-9478 Fax

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Marty Dougherty
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:23 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

 Easy way to remember the color code is (this is really old days)

 Bell- Blue
 Operators-Orange
 Give-Green
 Bad- Brown
 Service- Slate

 While- White
 Running- Red
 Backwards- Black
 You- Yellow
 Vomit- Violet

 If you can remember that you can break down any cable- even the big ones
 with thousands of pairs...
 Marty



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Chad Halsted
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:37 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

 telecom 25 pair color code

 tip
 White
 Red
 Black
 Yellow
 Violet

 ring
 Blue
 Orange
 Green
 Brown
 Slate

 so it would look like this...

 w/bl - bl, w/o - o, w/g - g, w/br - br, w/sl - sl
 r/bl - bl, r/o - o, r/g - g, r/br - br, r/sl -sl
 bk/bl - bl, bk/o - o, bk/g -g, bk/br - br, bk/sl - sl
 y/bl - bl, ..etc..etc
 v/bl - bl, ..etc..etc

 It's been a while since I have seen a 25 pair Cat5 cable, don't know
 if the slate pair is in there or not, I know it is for 25 pair
 telecom feeders, but those are usually Cat3 rated.  If not, then you
 simply ignore that pair.

 Anyhow, for larger count cables.  Each 25 pair group should be wrapped
 with blue, orange, green, brown and slate colored binder string.
 The first 25 pair is blue, the next would be orange, then green, brown
 and slate accordingly.

 and then there are super groups... which is getting way off Topic. hehe

 On 12/18/06, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes, I can confirm Scrivs point. I have a 300' cat5 25 Pr and it is
 punched down on a 12 port RJ45 Block, standard Cat5e terminal. It has
 worked well, thou I am not using today. No good reason, just wanted to
 have fewer connectors.
  Ron Wallace
  Hahnron, Inc.
  220 S. Jackson Dt.
  Addison, MI 49220
 
  Phone: (517)547-8410
  Mobile: (517)605-4542
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 02:08 AM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
  
  If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to
 terminate
  on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
  the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
  else confirm or deny?
  Scriv
  
  
  Brad Belton wrote:
  
  Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works
 well.
  
  I've attached a snapshot.
  
  Best,
  
  
  Brad
  
  
  
  
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 On
  Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:29 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
  
  Punch blocks, enclosures? What did you do for that?
  
  Brian
  
  
  
  
  Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor
 cable.
  Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
  
  I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff.
  
  Best,
  
  Brad
  
  
  
  
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
  To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
  Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
  
  Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr
 outdoor
  cat5?
  
  I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future
 deployments.
  You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
  and would only have run jumpers for new radios.
  
  Brian
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Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-19 Thread Chad Halsted

telecom 25 pair color code

tip
White
Red
Black
Yellow
Violet

ring
Blue
Orange
Green
Brown
Slate

so it would look like this...

w/bl - bl, w/o - o, w/g - g, w/br - br, w/sl - sl
r/bl - bl, r/o - o, r/g - g, r/br - br, r/sl -sl
bk/bl - bl, bk/o - o, bk/g -g, bk/br - br, bk/sl - sl
y/bl - bl, ..etc..etc
v/bl - bl, ..etc..etc

It's been a while since I have seen a 25 pair Cat5 cable, don't know
if the slate pair is in there or not, I know it is for 25 pair
telecom feeders, but those are usually Cat3 rated.  If not, then you
simply ignore that pair.

Anyhow, for larger count cables.  Each 25 pair group should be wrapped
with blue, orange, green, brown and slate colored binder string.
The first 25 pair is blue, the next would be orange, then green, brown
and slate accordingly.

and then there are super groups... which is getting way off Topic. hehe

On 12/18/06, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes, I can confirm Scrivs point. I have a 300' cat5 25 Pr and it is punched 
down on a 12 port RJ45 Block, standard Cat5e terminal. It has worked well, thou 
I am not using today. No good reason, just wanted to have fewer connectors.
Ron Wallace
Hahnron, Inc.
220 S. Jackson Dt.
Addison, MI 49220

Phone: (517)547-8410
Mobile: (517)605-4542
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 02:08 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate
on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
else confirm or deny?
Scriv


Brad Belton wrote:

Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works well.

I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:29 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Punch blocks, enclosures? What did you do for that?

Brian




Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

Brian
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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-19 Thread Marty Dougherty
Easy way to remember the color code is (this is really old days) 

Bell- Blue
Operators-Orange
Give-Green
Bad- Brown
Service- Slate

While- White
Running- Red
Backwards- Black
You- Yellow
Vomit- Violet

If you can remember that you can break down any cable- even the big ones
with thousands of pairs...
Marty



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chad Halsted
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

telecom 25 pair color code

tip
White
Red
Black
Yellow
Violet

ring
Blue
Orange
Green
Brown
Slate

so it would look like this...

w/bl - bl, w/o - o, w/g - g, w/br - br, w/sl - sl
r/bl - bl, r/o - o, r/g - g, r/br - br, r/sl -sl
bk/bl - bl, bk/o - o, bk/g -g, bk/br - br, bk/sl - sl
y/bl - bl, ..etc..etc
v/bl - bl, ..etc..etc

It's been a while since I have seen a 25 pair Cat5 cable, don't know
if the slate pair is in there or not, I know it is for 25 pair
telecom feeders, but those are usually Cat3 rated.  If not, then you
simply ignore that pair.

Anyhow, for larger count cables.  Each 25 pair group should be wrapped
with blue, orange, green, brown and slate colored binder string.
The first 25 pair is blue, the next would be orange, then green, brown
and slate accordingly.

and then there are super groups... which is getting way off Topic. hehe

On 12/18/06, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I can confirm Scrivs point. I have a 300' cat5 25 Pr and it is
punched down on a 12 port RJ45 Block, standard Cat5e terminal. It has
worked well, thou I am not using today. No good reason, just wanted to
have fewer connectors.
 Ron Wallace
 Hahnron, Inc.
 220 S. Jackson Dt.
 Addison, MI 49220

 Phone: (517)547-8410
 Mobile: (517)605-4542
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 02:08 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to
terminate
 on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
 the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
 else confirm or deny?
 Scriv
 
 
 Brad Belton wrote:
 
 Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works
well.
 
 I've attached a snapshot.
 
 Best,
 
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:29 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Punch blocks, enclosures? What did you do for that?
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor
cable.
 Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
 
 I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff.
 
 Best,
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
 To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
 Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr
outdoor
 cat5?
 
 I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future
deployments.
 You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
 and would only have run jumpers for new radios.
 
 Brian
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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-19 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I remember that from school


Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marty Dougherty
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:23 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Easy way to remember the color code is (this is really old days) 

Bell- Blue
Operators-Orange
Give-Green
Bad- Brown
Service- Slate

While- White
Running- Red
Backwards- Black
You- Yellow
Vomit- Violet

If you can remember that you can break down any cable- even the big ones
with thousands of pairs...
Marty



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chad Halsted
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

telecom 25 pair color code

tip
White
Red
Black
Yellow
Violet

ring
Blue
Orange
Green
Brown
Slate

so it would look like this...

w/bl - bl, w/o - o, w/g - g, w/br - br, w/sl - sl
r/bl - bl, r/o - o, r/g - g, r/br - br, r/sl -sl
bk/bl - bl, bk/o - o, bk/g -g, bk/br - br, bk/sl - sl
y/bl - bl, ..etc..etc
v/bl - bl, ..etc..etc

It's been a while since I have seen a 25 pair Cat5 cable, don't know
if the slate pair is in there or not, I know it is for 25 pair
telecom feeders, but those are usually Cat3 rated.  If not, then you
simply ignore that pair.

Anyhow, for larger count cables.  Each 25 pair group should be wrapped
with blue, orange, green, brown and slate colored binder string.
The first 25 pair is blue, the next would be orange, then green, brown
and slate accordingly.

and then there are super groups... which is getting way off Topic. hehe

On 12/18/06, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I can confirm Scrivs point. I have a 300' cat5 25 Pr and it is
punched down on a 12 port RJ45 Block, standard Cat5e terminal. It has
worked well, thou I am not using today. No good reason, just wanted to
have fewer connectors.
 Ron Wallace
 Hahnron, Inc.
 220 S. Jackson Dt.
 Addison, MI 49220

 Phone: (517)547-8410
 Mobile: (517)605-4542
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 02:08 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to
terminate
 on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
 the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
 else confirm or deny?
 Scriv
 
 
 Brad Belton wrote:
 
 Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works
well.
 
 I've attached a snapshot.
 
 Best,
 
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:29 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Punch blocks, enclosures? What did you do for that?
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor
cable.
 Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
 
 I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff.
 
 Best,
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
 To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
 Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr
outdoor
 cat5?
 
 I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future
deployments.
 You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
 and would only have run jumpers for new radios.
 
 Brian
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Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-18 Thread Ron Wallace

Yes, I can confirm Scrivs point. I have a 300' cat5 25 Pr and it is punched 
down on a 12 port RJ45 Block, standard Cat5e terminal. It has worked well, thou 
I am not using today. No good reason, just wanted to have fewer connectors.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate
on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
else confirm or deny?
Scriv


Brad Belton wrote:

Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures. Works well.

I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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Punch blocks, enclosures? What did you do for that?

Brian




Yep, works nicely. We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk. Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments. 
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread JNA
We have a superior essex 25 pair but have not terminated it yet. Is there an
actual way to make since out of the mess of wires? When the shielding is
peeled back there is no grouping of pairs, color differentiation, etc... How
do you tell what pair is what aside from toning them?

John

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 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:09 AM
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 If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate
 on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
 the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
 else confirm or deny?
 Scriv
 
 
 Brad Belton wrote:
 
 Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works
 well.
 
 I've attached a snapshot.
 
 Best,
 
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
 Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
 
 I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.
 
 Best,
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor
 cat5?
 
 I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.
 You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
 and would only have run jumpers for new radios.
 
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Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread Jason

John,

   I worked with an audio engineer in a past life who used them to wire 
sound systems for big churches and he claimed that not all punch down 
blocks would pass the same bandwidth.  How to tell the good from the 
bad, I don't know. Maybe they come rated up to a certain freq?


Jason

John Scrivner wrote:
If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate 
on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in 
the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone 
else confirm or deny?

Scriv


Brad Belton wrote:

Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works 
well.


I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

Brian


 

Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor 
cable.

Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr 
outdoor cat5?


I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future 
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and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread Mike Delp
We used 110 style punch down jacks, and all were passed with our test-um
meter as 100 MEG.  We are satisfied with the results.  Skywalker had a
better deal than the Leviton stuff at Lowe's.  

Mike
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If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate 
on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in 
the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone 
else confirm or deny?
Scriv


Brad Belton wrote:

Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works well.

I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

Brian


  

Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
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I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread Mike Delp
Google for 25 pair color codes.  Telco used several colors for the white
part of the pairs.  So orange-white, then orange-black then orange-yellow,
etc etc.  I made a table from one of these web pages, and printed it out for
the techs to follow it, and it worked out well, (They only messed up on a
couple of pairs during all three of them they wired.

Mike

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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:44 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

We have a superior essex 25 pair but have not terminated it yet. Is there an
actual way to make since out of the mess of wires? When the shielding is
peeled back there is no grouping of pairs, color differentiation, etc... How
do you tell what pair is what aside from toning them?

John

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 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:09 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate
 on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
 the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
 else confirm or deny?
 Scriv
 
 
 Brad Belton wrote:
 
 Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works
 well.
 
 I've attached a snapshot.
 
 Best,
 
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
 Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
 
 I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.
 
 Best,
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor
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 I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.
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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread Brad Belton
I have been told the same regarding terminating pairs on a 110 block vs. 66
block.  110 blocks were made with CAT5 in mind whereas 66 blocks were around
probably long before CAT5 was widely implemented.

I'm not sure if they make 66 blocks that are CAT5 rated or not, but the ones
we use come with covers labeled CAT5.  We've used them in a number of
projects ranging from water towers to apartment complexes.

Yes, I understand there is a common color code used for 25pr, but we simply
keep the pairs in the same order at each end of the cable.  We haven't had
any trouble maintaining 100MB FDX over this setup and in some cases the
cable is every bit of 330'...maybe a bit more.

Best,


Brad



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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

We have a superior essex 25 pair but have not terminated it yet. Is there an
actual way to make since out of the mess of wires? When the shielding is
peeled back there is no grouping of pairs, color differentiation, etc... How
do you tell what pair is what aside from toning them?

John

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 Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:09 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate
 on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in
 the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone
 else confirm or deny?
 Scriv
 
 
 Brad Belton wrote:
 
 Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works
 well.
 
 I've attached a snapshot.
 
 Best,
 
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
 Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
 Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
 
 I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.
 
 Best,
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor
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 I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.
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Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread Bob Moldashel
There are 66 blocks that are CAT5 rated.  We have also terminated on 66 
blocks that were CAT5 rated and had RJ45's pre mounted and terminated to 
the block.  If I find the mfg/part number I'll post it.


BTW:  I owe you a phone call.

-B-


Brad Belton wrote:


I have been told the same regarding terminating pairs on a 110 block vs. 66
block.  110 blocks were made with CAT5 in mind whereas 66 blocks were around
probably long before CAT5 was widely implemented.

I'm not sure if they make 66 blocks that are CAT5 rated or not, but the ones
we use come with covers labeled CAT5.  We've used them in a number of
projects ranging from water towers to apartment complexes.

Yes, I understand there is a common color code used for 25pr, but we simply
keep the pairs in the same order at each end of the cable.  We haven't had
any trouble maintaining 100MB FDX over this setup and in some cases the
cable is every bit of 330'...maybe a bit more.

Best,


Brad

 




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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread Brad Belton
Well then that explains why we've had success with our 66 blocks!  Guess
they are indeed CAT5 rated.  grin

Yah, yahI'll get over it, but I do want to bend you ear a bit when you
have a free moment.

Best,


Brad




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There are 66 blocks that are CAT5 rated.  We have also terminated on 66 
blocks that were CAT5 rated and had RJ45's pre mounted and terminated to 
the block.  If I find the mfg/part number I'll post it.

BTW:  I owe you a phone call.

-B-


Brad Belton wrote:

I have been told the same regarding terminating pairs on a 110 block vs. 66
block.  110 blocks were made with CAT5 in mind whereas 66 blocks were
around
probably long before CAT5 was widely implemented.

I'm not sure if they make 66 blocks that are CAT5 rated or not, but the
ones
we use come with covers labeled CAT5.  We've used them in a number of
projects ranging from water towers to apartment complexes.

Yes, I understand there is a common color code used for 25pr, but we simply
keep the pairs in the same order at each end of the cable.  We haven't had
any trouble maintaining 100MB FDX over this setup and in some cases the
cable is every bit of 330'...maybe a bit more.

Best,


Brad

  



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RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-16 Thread Mike Delp
110 style will allow Cat5.  We can test 100 Meg through all fourteen on one
tower.

Mike

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Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works well.

I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

Brian


Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Charles Wu
I've got a roll of it I'll give you REAL cheap (it's been sitting in the
warehouse for over a year now)

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Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Mike Delp
We just deployed on two water towers, and ran 25 pair cables on both.  We
have 8 port patch panels (from Skywalker) and a total of 14 cables on one
tower.  We have deployed AP's and backhauls to almost fill up the boxes.  It
works great.

Mike

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Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
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I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Brad Belton
Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread brian
Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

Brian


Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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Re: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Yeah...66 blocks or 110?

Charles, if Brian doesn't want your cable, I may be interested...give him
dibs, though... ;)

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 Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

 Brian


 Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
 Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!
 
 I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.
 
 Best,
 
 Brad
 
 
 
 
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 Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5
 
 Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor
 cat5?
 
 I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.
 You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
 and would only have run jumpers for new radios.
 
 Brian
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RE: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Brad Belton
Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works well.

I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

Brian


Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

What sources are you using to piece this kit together?

Brian

Mike Delp wrote:


We just deployed on two water towers, and ran 25 pair cables on both.  We
have 8 port patch panels (from Skywalker) and a total of 14 cables on one
tower.  We have deployed AP's and backhauls to almost fill up the boxes.  It
works great.

Mike

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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
cat5?


I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom

and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

Brian
 


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Re: RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Nash - Lists

Can't get the attachment on the list... Offlist, maybe?  URL, maybe?

Thanks!

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Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works well.

I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

Brian



Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Subject: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor
cat5?

I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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RE: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread Brad Belton
How many feet do you have?

Brad

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I've got a roll of it I'll give you REAL cheap (it's been sitting in the
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:48 PM
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Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
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I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
You'd have it punched in a block at the top and bottom
and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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Re: [WISPA] 25 pr Outdoor cat5

2006-12-15 Thread John Scrivner
If you need 100 megabit Cat 5 performance then it is best to terminate 
on 110 blocks instead of 66 blocks. That is what I was always told in 
the past. I have no proof other than what others told me. Can anyone 
else confirm or deny?

Scriv


Brad Belton wrote:


Yep, standard 25pr 66 blocks mounted inside NEMA4 enclosures.  Works well.

I've attached a snapshot.

Best,


Brad




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Punch blocks, enclosures?  What did you do for that?

Brian


 


Yep, works nicely.  We've run several hubs with 25pr CAT5 outdoor cable.
Gobs and gobs of goo inside...have a few hand rags ready!

I believe the cable brand is Mohawk.  Good stuff.

Best,

Brad




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Does anyone use, have thoughts about, or know where to get 25 pr outdoor 
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I am curious if using it on a tower could save in future deployments.  
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and would only have run jumpers for new radios.

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