Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-24 Thread Butch Evans

On Tue, 23 May 2006, jeffrey thomas wrote:

Actually, on the Ap Side Airspan is around 5000.00 and 400 or so 
for the CPE.


It was about a year ago that I got pricing on these.  This is a much 
more competitive price model than what I was quoted back then.  At 
that price, they would be a viable option for certain business 
models.  The only drawback to them is the bandwidth (4.5 Mbps air 
rate).  Their MAC allows for several users to share this bandwidth 
fairly, however.  Airspan is a pretty good choice in this market.


To be fair, I think the WaveIP product performed reasonably well in 
our testing, too.  There's a little more bandwidth available over 
the air (I think it is 9Mbps) and there is an option for a full 
duplex link with this gear.  In our testing, we had significant 
issues with WaveIP early on, but once the problem was found (that's 
a story for another time), the gear performed very well.  At least 
that's what I am told.  The problem was found and resolved after I 
left BPS, so I never got 100% of the details of the final analysis. 
I'd not hesitate to recommend this gear either.


The only real drawback to either of these (and very likely others in 
this market) is that the NMS for both of them (this includes the 
configuration utilities) requires Windows.  For a network that does 
not use any Windows servers (I would assume all the GOOD networks 
are in this boat :-), this would require a dedicated server just to 
configure your gear.  My requests for a telnet or http interface 
fell on deaf ears (for both of them).  SIGH.


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Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Jon Langeler
If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at 
companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per base 
station/sector deployment...


Jon Langeler
Michwave Tech.

Gino A. Villarini wrote:


Gino A. Villarini Hello,

The local government holds a license for 700 mhz publi c safety with 2 
12 mhz channels, anyone have any pointers on how to develop a network 
on such frequencies? Anyone knows of  federal funds available for such 
endeavor ? Homeland Security funding ?



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Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Butch Evans

On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote:

If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at 
companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per 
base station/sector deployment...


WaveIP and Airspan both have gear in the 700MHz band.  WaveIP is 
around $1500 for AP and $500-700 for CPE (I don't recall).  Airspan 
is about $8k for the AP (if I recall correctly) and a little under 
$500 per CPE.  Both of these would be a good choice.


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RE: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Brad Larson
Most of these muni projects are basing the 700 Mhz on the public safety band
that is not yet available. High speed roaming is the application not
broadband. I know the Wimax Forum is at least looking at the band for e
which fits the mold. Every public safety entity I have talked with in the
last 2 months does not want a proprietary approach. They want standards
based gear. Brad

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote:

If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at 
companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per 
base station/sector deployment...

WaveIP and Airspan both have gear in the 700MHz band.  WaveIP is 
around $1500 for AP and $500-700 for CPE (I don't recall).  Airspan 
is about $8k for the AP (if I recall correctly) and a little under 
$500 per CPE.  Both of these would be a good choice.

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Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
So where is my danged wifi cpe that can keep a list of 36 ap's and is smart 
enough to switch between them automatically?


sheesh  I could have sold thousands of these over the 2 years since I've 
asked for that product!


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- Original Message - 
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Most of these muni projects are basing the 700 Mhz on the public safety 
band

that is not yet available. High speed roaming is the application not
broadband. I know the Wimax Forum is at least looking at the band for e
which fits the mold. Every public safety entity I have talked with in the
last 2 months does not want a proprietary approach. They want standards
based gear. Brad

-Original Message-
From: Butch Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote:


If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at
companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per
base station/sector deployment...


WaveIP and Airspan both have gear in the 700MHz band.  WaveIP is
around $1500 for AP and $500-700 for CPE (I don't recall).  Airspan
is about $8k for the AP (if I recall correctly) and a little under
$500 per CPE.  Both of these would be a good choice.

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Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
Actually, on the Ap Side Airspan is around 5000.00 and 400 or so for the
CPE.

-

Jeff

On Tue, 23 May 2006 08:43:29 -0500 (CDT), Butch Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote:
 
 If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at 
 companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per 
 base station/sector deployment...
 
 WaveIP and Airspan both have gear in the 700MHz band.  WaveIP is 
 around $1500 for AP and $500-700 for CPE (I don't recall).  Airspan 
 is about $8k for the AP (if I recall correctly) and a little under 
 $500 per CPE.  Both of these would be a good choice.
 
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Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 09:25:51 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 So where is my danged wifi cpe that can keep a list of 36 ap's and is
 smart 
 enough to switch between them automatically?
 
 sheesh  I could have sold thousands of these over the 2 years since
 I've 
 asked for that product!
 
 Marlon
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Brad Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:01 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License
 
 
  Most of these muni projects are basing the 700 Mhz on the public safety 
  band
  that is not yet available. High speed roaming is the application not
  broadband. I know the Wimax Forum is at least looking at the band for e
  which fits the mold. Every public safety entity I have talked with in the
  last 2 months does not want a proprietary approach. They want standards
  based gear. Brad
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Butch Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:43 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License
 
  On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote:
 
 If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at
 companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per
 base station/sector deployment...
 
  WaveIP and Airspan both have gear in the 700MHz band.  WaveIP is
  around $1500 for AP and $500-700 for CPE (I don't recall).  Airspan
  is about $8k for the AP (if I recall correctly) and a little under
  $500 per CPE.  Both of these would be a good choice.
 
  -- 
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  Network Engineering and Security Consulting
  http://www.butchevans.com/
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