RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Rick Smith

http://www.mikrotik.com hands down these days.
 

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We're still looking for the ideal Access Point.  We realize we can't pack
much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation.  We use basically
three types:  Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable,
the New Smartbridges replacements which don't seem to want to consistently
stay up and Engenius AP's.

The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through
username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can
have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to
our billing.  We haven't found another like it.  On the other hand the
Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the
AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the
smartbridges.  

We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but
takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow
loading internal menus.  If you have any others that can work like the old
2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
MT is the ideal access point.

New smartbridges sux, I have seen so many people say that they have had
issues with them.

Passing the username/password, such as a PPPOE session is no problem.  It
can terminte right at the access point with a MT.  Using radius is no issue
either.  


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Subject: [WISPA] AP Search

We're still looking for the ideal Access Point.  We realize we can't pack
much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation.  We use basically
three types:  Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable,
the New Smartbridges replacements which don't seem to want to consistently
stay up and Engenius AP's.

The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through
username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can
have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to
our billing.  We haven't found another like it.  On the other hand the
Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the
AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the
smartbridges.  

We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but
takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow
loading internal menus.  If you have any others that can work like the old
2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Or you can hotspot EVERY access point!  Mac authencation is no issue. Or you
can do the PPPoE thing too.


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MT is the ideal access point.

New smartbridges sux, I have seen so many people say that they have had
issues with them.

Passing the username/password, such as a PPPOE session is no problem.  It
can terminte right at the access point with a MT.  Using radius is no issue
either.  


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Subject: [WISPA] AP Search

We're still looking for the ideal Access Point.  We realize we can't pack
much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation.  We use basically
three types:  Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable,
the New Smartbridges replacements which don't seem to want to consistently
stay up and Engenius AP's.

The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through
username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can
have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to
our billing.  We haven't found another like it.  On the other hand the
Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the
AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the
smartbridges.  

We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but
takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow
loading internal menus.  If you have any others that can work like the old
2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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Re: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
StarOS would handle this easily.  I tried Mikrotik with a setup like 
this, and it just didn't work quite right. 

FWIW, I have a StarOS AP with approx 50 customers on it that has been up 
for almost a year.  Not a single reboot, just works. 


StarOS will also do hotspot type authentication as well.

Matt Larsen
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Forbes Mercy wrote:

We're still looking for the ideal Access Point.  We realize we can't pack much 
more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation.  We use basically three 
types:  Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable, the New 
Smartbridges replacements which don’t seem to want to consistently stay up and 
Engenius AP's.

The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to our billing.  We haven't found another like it.  On the other hand the Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the smartbridges.  


We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but takes 
forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow loading 
internal menus.  If you have any others that can work like the old 2510' s with 
good capacity and pass through radius please let me know.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

  


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RE: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Matt, I am curious,

I have used staros, and it is a good OS.  Don't get me wrong.  It does work
and it works well.  I am wondering what about the MT in the setup did you
not like, or like better in star os?

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StarOS would handle this easily.  I tried Mikrotik with a setup like 
this, and it just didn't work quite right. 

FWIW, I have a StarOS AP with approx 50 customers on it that has been up 
for almost a year.  Not a single reboot, just works. 

StarOS will also do hotspot type authentication as well.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Forbes Mercy wrote:
 We're still looking for the ideal Access Point.  We realize we can't pack
much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation.  We use basically
three types:  Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable,
the New Smartbridges replacements which don't seem to want to consistently
stay up and Engenius AP's.

 The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through
username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can
have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to
our billing.  We haven't found another like it.  On the other hand the
Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the
AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the
smartbridges.  

 We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but
takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow
loading internal menus.  If you have any others that can work like the old
2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know.

 Thanks,
 Forbes Mercy
 President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

   

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Re: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
If you want radius on the AP, go get Tranzeo 6000 series radios.  I only 
have a couple of them lit, but so far so good.


laters,
marlon

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We're still looking for the ideal Access Point.  We realize we can't pack 
much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation.  We use basically 
three types:  Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable, 
the New Smartbridges replacements which don’t seem to want to consistently 
stay up and Engenius AP's.


The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through 
username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can 
have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to 
our billing.  We haven't found another like it.  On the other hand the 
Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the 
AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the 
smartbridges.


We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but 
takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow 
loading internal menus.  If you have any others that can work like the old 
2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know.


Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.

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Re: [WISPA] AP Search

2006-12-14 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists

Hi Dennis,

In my deployment, Mikrotik would not handle the radius authentication by 
MAC address like StarOS does.  I also like to use the Orinoco cards for 
my access points, and Mikrotik does not have a driver for those cards - 
whereas StarOS has an excellent driver. 

I wanted to try out Mikrotik on my network, and I do have a couple of MT 
APs on my network, but they are not integrated with my 
radius/provisioning system and they are going to be replaced as soon as 
I can get out to them. 


Matt Larsen
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Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote:

Matt, I am curious,

I have used staros, and it is a good OS.  Don't get me wrong.  It does work
and it works well.  I am wondering what about the MT in the setup did you
not like, or like better in star os?

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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AP Search

StarOS would handle this easily.  I tried Mikrotik with a setup like 
this, and it just didn't work quite right. 

FWIW, I have a StarOS AP with approx 50 customers on it that has been up 
for almost a year.  Not a single reboot, just works. 


StarOS will also do hotspot type authentication as well.

Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Forbes Mercy wrote:
  

We're still looking for the ideal Access Point.  We realize we can't pack


much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation.  We use basically
three types:  Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable,
the New Smartbridges replacements which don't seem to want to consistently
stay up and Engenius AP's.
  

The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through


username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can
have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to
our billing.  We haven't found another like it.  On the other hand the
Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the
AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the
smartbridges.  
  

We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but


takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow
loading internal menus.  If you have any others that can work like the old
2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know.
  

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

  



  


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