Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
The bigger problem is not costs. Its understandable that the spot goes to the higher bidder. The problem is the understanding of how to lease tower space when its for unlicensed spectrum apposed to licensed spectrum. The tower guys dominently license to license spectrum holders. To teach them what WISPs needs for use of Unlicensed on the tower, is a long educational process to the tower managers. In Unlicensed you need more than just the channel you are broadcasting on, to maintain future reliabilty and growth. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Hi, The problem is that cell carriers (at least in my area) pay $500 - $2,000 per month to be on a tower... the same towers that I pay $100 - $250 per month. If you owned the towers, which customer would _you_ rather have? :( Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: It seems we (people on this list) are always easily dismissed by large tower owners. These dismissals are often in the form of here, pay this $! fee up front to deal with us or who are you again? or my favorite and one that was told to me by an American Tower Rep: we don't deal with WISPs unless they are named Clearwire. Is WISPA (or Part-15 for that matter) doing anything to negotiate standard or discount leases with these tower owners? I am not a member of either organization but this sort of thing would definitely make me want to join up in a hurry. I also think that if tower owners were faced with an organized group of people they might cut though some of the BS we face when working out leases. Just a suggestion, ryan On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Thats an interesting concept, as long as there are other local tower companies in your markets. Remember GSignal, rolled up a number of tower companies into them a while back to. A lot of preferred tier 1 realestate will be owned by Crown now. The disadvantage is that the large telcos get Master Agreements, and before you know a company like Sprint or Verizon overnight takes over your market by signing one agreement, excellerating their time to market. It also allows them to make a deal where their is less risk for them that their model will be compromised by a provider on the tower across the street, because the tower across the street was just rolled up. I agree that this move will encourage the smalelr tower companies to work with WISPs. And someone can always see a silver lining if they look for it. I'm jsut argueing that the prefered goal might have been to want the bigger companies to be more WISP friendly. I just hope that some of GSignal's personel goes with the assets, or Crown learns from GSignal in the aquisition. This doesn't have to be a bad thing, Crown could be trying to be a better company, and costs sometimes can go down if they get all teh business instead of jsut have of it. What tower the business is actually on is irrelevant. It also might be worthy to note that Michael Anderson, had discussed good experiences several years ago, working with Crown to be mroe WISP friendly. And the reasoning they weren;t WISP friendly wasn't intentional, they just didn't really understand the market yet, and as a big company had a lot of reps that didn't understand it either. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Not sure where this is coming from. As a tower owner, these are the concerns we have with leasing space to WISPS. 1. Is the WISP going to be around next month. 2. Who is the WISP going to use for install? 3. What eqipment is going on the tower. Any freqency specific stuff is normally covered by our first in, last out clause. If we add a customer to the tower that causes inteference to an existing customer, they need to fix the problem, otherwise, find another tower. Simple - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal The bigger problem is not costs. Its understandable that the spot goes to the higher bidder. The problem is the understanding of how to lease tower space when its for unlicensed spectrum apposed to licensed spectrum. The tower guys dominently license to license spectrum holders. To teach them what WISPs needs for use of Unlicensed on the tower, is a long educational process to the tower managers. In Unlicensed you need more than just the channel you are broadcasting on, to maintain future reliabilty and growth. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Hi, The problem is that cell carriers (at least in my area) pay $500 - $2,000 per month to be on a tower... the same towers that I pay $100 - $250 per month. If you owned the towers, which customer would _you_ rather have? :( Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: It seems we (people on this list) are always easily dismissed by large tower owners. These dismissals are often in the form of here, pay this $! fee up front to deal with us or who are you again? or my favorite and one that was told to me by an American Tower Rep: we don't deal with WISPs unless they are named Clearwire. Is WISPA (or Part-15 for that matter) doing anything to negotiate standard or discount leases with these tower owners? I am not a member of either organization but this sort of thing would definitely make me want to join up in a hurry. I also think that if tower owners were faced with an organized group of people they might cut though some of the BS we face when working out leases. Just a suggestion, ryan On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Blake, First, I did not realize you were a tower leasor guy :-) Yes, I agree your first three comments are the most relevant to tower leasors. But my post was not about what was important to tower companies, it was about what was important to the WISP leasee using unlicensed spectrum, which is different than the need of tenants that use licensed spectrum. License Spectrum has predictabilty and upfront defined needs. Unlicensed needs flexibilty. Licensed has plenty of time for planning and change. Unlicensed requires immediate (timely) response to adapt. Tower companies generally do not move fast, and they typcally do not sign contracts with out limits set on what will get deployed. WISPS need contracts for gear that would potentially be installed but could have various substitutions. Tower companies are used to Telcos that know exactly what they needs based on the template used at 1000s of other towers. When I lease, I want to buy the right to the whole spectrum range, with exclusive use of it, which I eventually get, or I do not use the tower. Tower companies are typically very sceptical about doing a lease of that type that will limit themselves in future transactions, or their abilty to get re-use out of the spectrum to maximize their revenue opportunities. When I lease, I build as I go, becaue their is a finite amount of spectrum, and I don't know where my clients will end up being located and what type of link will be needed, until after the fact. So I might throw up a couple APs initially, but that will vary over time as required to deliver the product my subscribers demand. Tower companies on the other hand tend to want an equipment list in advance of the agreement, but the equipment list doesn;t exist at the time the lease needs to be signed because the customers aren;t had yet, because the tower rights have not been secured yet. So What has to happen is a lease needs to be signed based on spectrum that needs to be used, and/or broad generic description of gear. Any freqency specific stuff is normally covered by our first in, last out clause. Thats great, as long as you are willing to grant first in access, based on what is contracted that would eventually be installed by the individual that bought the right. How do you measure non-interference if one's gear is not yet installed? If we add a customer to the tower that causes inteference to an existing customer, they need to fix the problem, otherwise, find another tower. Yes, but thats not good enough, the damage is already done once the interference occurs. A WISPs wants more certainty that best practices will be taken that will improve changes that interference will be avoided. For example if I own 5.8 rights, not allowing someone to try 5.8G prevents the interference from happening in the first place. Without exclusivity, one can not determine what interference would happen in the future when channels need moving around or power increased, because environmental noise forces channels changes on sectors. Typical Non-Interferemce clauses were generally written with static noise conditions in mind, not constant changing conditions. What it boils down to is that a tower owner needs to either accept that they are better off leasing to only one leeasee from the tower per band, and then its real easy for everyone, or have a specific plan or agreement between all parties, how the multiple providers will co-exist. For example, on the one or two cases where we were not given exclusivity or could not afford to buy it because it was not needed, we've added clauses such that tower owner was required to notify us of any co-tenants that were going to deploy in our channel range. We've had cases were we've lost customers because we thought we had noise we could do nothing about, thinking it was in the environment since no one else supposedly was on our tower, but then learned months later it was a co-located tenant stomping on us. These are some of the issues that I was referring to. I have no idea how your company works, and what policies you have, but my guess is that if you are a smaller tower company, you's probably do do a better job, just because you's be less likely to be limited by generic policies, and willing to take the time to work out a agreement to meet the tenant's need. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Not sure where this is coming from. As a tower owner, these are the concerns we have with leasing space to WISPS. 1. Is the WISP going to be around next month. 2. Who is the WISP going to use for install? 3. What eqipment is going on the tower. Any freqency specific stuff is normally covered by our first in, last out
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
These are some of the issues that I was referring to. I have no idea how your company works, and what policies you have, but my guess is that if you are a smaller tower company, you's probably do do a better job, just because you's be less likely to be limited by generic policies, and willing to take the time to work out a agreement to meet the tenant's need. Exactly my point. I will rent you a spot on the tower, and we can do it any number of ways. I have WISPS that lease a portion of the tower, ie between 330 and 350 foot, load it up. I also have WISPS that have exclusive bands. It is simple, you get what you pay for. Our rates are still better than the big guys, our time to market can be measured in hours, not months, and when you call, you talk to someone who makes a decision. But, if you need a spot within 1 mile of point A, and ATC or Crown, or etc has the only tower to be had, you pretty much have to play their game, build your own, or talk one of the smaller companies into doing something. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
I'm just sayin'... That if we (er, you guys, I am not a member) come at these folks with: we have XXX number of players that want on your towers. What sales-droid do we need to talk to? Can we make a wispa package to make it easier for the sales-droid to hit his numbers? Then perhaps Wispa, part-15 whatever can leverage their membership to help all of the members. I seem to get hotel rooms cheaper when I use my AAA card and I get electronics cheaper when I use my IEEE card. I would love to use my WISPA/Part-15 card to get cheaper, hell just easier and standard leases from tower owners. Just a suggestion. ryan On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:43 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, The problem is that cell carriers (at least in my area) pay $500 - $2,000 per month to be on a tower... the same towers that I pay $100 - $250 per month. If you owned the towers, which customer would _you_ rather have? :( Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: It seems we (people on this list) are always easily dismissed by large tower owners. These dismissals are often in the form of here, pay this $! fee up front to deal with us or who are you again? or my favorite and one that was told to me by an American Tower Rep: we don't deal with WISPs unless they are named Clearwire. Is WISPA (or Part-15 for that matter) doing anything to negotiate standard or discount leases with these tower owners? I am not a member of either organization but this sort of thing would definitely make me want to join up in a hurry. I also think that if tower owners were faced with an organized group of people they might cut though some of the BS we face when working out leases. Just a suggestion, ryan On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Crown Castle agreed to acquire Global Signal for 4 billion cash and stock deal as of yesterday. Good news for us small guys! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
It seems we (people on this list) are always easily dismissed by large tower owners. These dismissals are often in the form of here, pay this $! fee up front to deal with us or who are you again? or my favorite and one that was told to me by an American Tower Rep: we don't deal with WISPs unless they are named Clearwire. Is WISPA (or Part-15 for that matter) doing anything to negotiate standard or discount leases with these tower owners? I am not a member of either organization but this sort of thing would definitely make me want to join up in a hurry. I also think that if tower owners were faced with an organized group of people they might cut though some of the BS we face when working out leases. Just a suggestion, ryan On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Hi, The problem is that cell carriers (at least in my area) pay $500 - $2,000 per month to be on a tower... the same towers that I pay $100 - $250 per month. If you owned the towers, which customer would _you_ rather have? :( Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: It seems we (people on this list) are always easily dismissed by large tower owners. These dismissals are often in the form of here, pay this $! fee up front to deal with us or who are you again? or my favorite and one that was told to me by an American Tower Rep: we don't deal with WISPs unless they are named Clearwire. Is WISPA (or Part-15 for that matter) doing anything to negotiate standard or discount leases with these tower owners? I am not a member of either organization but this sort of thing would definitely make me want to join up in a hurry. I also think that if tower owners were faced with an organized group of people they might cut though some of the BS we face when working out leases. Just a suggestion, ryan On Oct 7, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: Exactly. Crown is a nightmare if you are not a carrier, and they are doing the assimiliation. Smaller tower owners will continue to cater to the smaller companies, the WISPS, and continue to gain their business. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal How do you figure? Crown Castle is a nightmare to work with, and Global Signal has worked well with WISPS. I hope Crown Castle takes Global Signal's good sense with the purchase. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
why? Who are they? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Crown Castle agreed to acquire Global Signal for 4 billion cash and stock deal as of yesterday. Good news for us small guys! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: why? Who are they? Our two biggest landlords. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
CC is a tower company...but I don't recall them necessarily being wISP friendly. We must assume Blake has had better luck negotiating with CC than Global Signal. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal why? Who are they? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Crown Castle agreed to acquire Global Signal for 4 billion cash and stock deal as of yesterday. Good news for us small guys! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Crown Castle and Global signal are two of the Giants in the tower industry. What it does for the WISP industry is make it tougher to lease from them, historically as they get bigger, if you are not a cellular carrier you are not of interest to them. What it does for the smaller tower owners, is make the WISPS an even more attractive market - as we know how tough it is to deal with the big guys, and we try to make sure we are easy to deal with. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal why? Who are they? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Crown Castle agreed to acquire Global Signal for 4 billion cash and stock deal as of yesterday. Good news for us small guys! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
Crown castle is a tower company, and they own thousands of radio towers. It is probably very bad for little guys like us.. Probably an increase in site fees. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:28:27 -0700 why? Whoarethey? Marlon (509)982-2181Equipmentsales (408)907-6910(Vonage)Consultingservices 42846865(icq)AndIrunmyownwisp! 64.146.146.12(netmeeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam-OriginalMessage- From:"BlakeBowers"[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:"WISPAGeneralList"wireless@wispa.org Sent:Friday,October06,200610:15AM Subject:[WISPA]CrownCastle/Globalsignal CrownCastleagreedtoacquireGlobalSignal for4billioncashandstockdealasofyesterday. Goodnewsforussmallguys! -- WISPAWirelessList:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPAWirelessList:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/Express yourself - download free Windows Live Messenger themes! Get it now! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal
ah bummer Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Crown castle is a tower company, and they own thousands of radio towers. It is probably very bad for little guys like us.. Probably an increase in site fees. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crown Castle / Global signal Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:28:27 -0700 why? Whoarethey? Marlon (509)982-2181Equipmentsales (408)907-6910(Vonage)Consultingservices 42846865(icq)AndIrunmyownwisp! 64.146.146.12(netmeeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -OriginalMessage- From:"BlakeBowers"[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:"WISPAGeneralList"wireless@wispa.org Sent:Friday,October06,200610:15AM Subject:[WISPA]CrownCastle/Globalsignal CrownCastleagreedtoacquireGlobalSignal for4billioncashandstockdealasofyesterday. Goodnewsforussmallguys! -- WISPAWirelessList:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPAWirelessList:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Express yourself - download free Windows Live Messenger themes! Get it now! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
